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MacTechVpr

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A final note about this conversation - I saw many different opinions. One is no better than the other. And that's the point we are making in VapeOut.

Each and everyone of you should have the right to determine the rules of vaping in your house, business, establishment. We should not roll over and hand that right to government officials, who know absolutely nothing about you. You and only you know the best, who are your customers/visitors/guests, who visit your establishment. So again, VapeOut is fighting for your right to determine the rules of vaping in your house.

I will keep you posted.

Cheers guys :)

Ardo I didn't post to discourage your solution. The tide of public opinion will sway social consciousness in the end. vaping like so many human activities is mother nature, communal behavior. And you don't mess with that. But the war against regulation by all of us will be fought on the doorstep of merchants. It is they who will encourage or discourage the regulatory snobs by their perceptions and behaviors. And in so doing magnify the efforts of the rest of us.

So I applaud your efforts, those of anyone by every means to take the message to them, private property owners. We vapers are an important segment of the market. So are our families and others who care about us and sympathize with our concerns. They spend money too. Our decisions to engage commerce as a class, to don the regulators perspective, have a financial impact. It's not one or two of us. It's all those who are excluded or had someone they care for excluded or denied participation. These percentages may seem intangible and all the more reason that the merchant can err on the side of the known quantity — certain regulatory cost. But the absent consumer dollar is visible. Just look at our economy. We do see the impact of regulation. In a host of ways. These dollars add up. Isn't this the time then to encourage consumers, not deter them? Or are we all that well off that we can dismiss imaginary markets? That's a message the businessman can understand and appreciate.

The tide is with us.

Good luck!

:)
 

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A final note about this conversation - I saw many different opinions. One is no better than the other. And that's the point we are making in VapeOut.

Each and everyone of you should have the right to determine the rules of vaping in your house, business, establishment. We should not roll over and hand that right to government officials, who know absolutely nothing about you. You and only you know the best, who are your customers/visitors/guests, who visit your establishment. So again, VapeOut is fighting for your right to determine the rules of vaping in your house.

I will keep you posted.

Cheers guys :)
Yes! Yes! Yes!!!!


:dang, now I need to jump back in the shower:
 

Ardo

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Ardo I didn't post to discourage your solution. The tide of public opinion will sway social consciousness in the end. Vaping like so many human activities is mother nature, communal behavior. And you don't mess with that. But the war against regulation by all of us will be fought on the doorstep of merchants. It is they who will encourage or discourage the regulatory snobs by their perceptions and behaviors. And in so doing magnify the efforts of the rest of us.

So I applaud your efforts, those of anyone by every means to take the message to them, private property owners. We vapers are an important segment of the market. So are our families and others who care about us and sympathize with our concerns. They spend money too. Our decisions to engage commerce as a class, to don the regulators perspective, have a financial impact. It's not one or two of us. It's all those who are excluded or had someone they care for excluded or denied participation. These percentages may seem intangible and all the more reason that the merchant can err on the side of the known quantity — certain regulatory cost. But the absent consumer dollar is visible. Just look at our economy. We do see the impact of regulation. In a host of ways. These dollars add up. Isn't this the time then to encourage consumers, not deter them? Or are we all that well off that we can dismiss imaginary markets? That's a message the businessman can understand and appreciate.

The tide is with us.

Good luck!

:)

Thanks Mac! :)
 
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