Gift to help mom quit-- Advice on where to start!!??

[nickyd]

Hi all,

I am a 30 year old non-smoker, and I'm interested in purchasing an e cigarette system for my mom. She is 55 years old and has been smoking for at least 35 years. I would consider her to be a heavy smoker. I'm so concerned about her deep coughing and I'm willing to do anything to make her stop, she breaks my heart every time I see her light up because she cannot control the urge to smoke.

So, I understand that with the Ecigs there are a lot of options and different brands that are better in some ways and not so good in others. I would like to get it right the first time when I purchase her the Ecigs. She has a full time office job and smokes Winston Lights. She also drinks a lot of coffee and must have cigarettes with her coffee and after meals. I think the ideal product for her would be the most realistic placebo possible. I want to get her one that actually smokes and tastes like a real cigarette, and that is convenient to carry in her purse and doesnt require a lot of recharging or refilling of cartridges.

Can anyone reflect on their experiences and recommend an Ecigarette for me to buy her? Any input is deeply appreciated, not a day goes by that I am not concerned about her.

 

[babydoll]

Hi,
I am fairly new to the forum and vaping, but I will gladly share my 2 cents. I use the Joye 510. It is one of the best out there. The kit came with the regular sized batteries, which do not last long enough for me. I did purchase some 510 Mega batteries and they last much longer. I would also recommend, in addition to the kit itself, some cartomizers. They last longer than the atomizers with the kit because they hold more juice. Also, in my experience, as long as you do not let the cartomizers dry out, they seem to last a long time. I do know that alot of people on the forums use the EGO, which they say is great. I have not ordered that yet (hope to soon). For a really good E-cig kit, I don't think you can go wrong with the 510.

 

[Rosa]

Hi, I understand your concern for your mom, it sounds like she could really benefit from something like this.


Does your mom have an interest in trying e-cigarettes? Does she even know they exist? My experience has been that it's hard to get someone to want to try something like this -- you might try getting her a disposable kit to see if she likes it. The disposable 510 kit ($10) is about the size of a cigarette so it might be something she would be ok trying. 510 DISPOSABLE E-CIG KIT with Blue LED
If she likes it then you'll want to get her something like an eGo kit - which is significantly bigger than a cigarette but works much better too.

The thing about e-cigs is that the ones that look like a cigarette really don't work very well at all, and none of them taste like a cigarette - so she needs to be open to giving it a chance in order for it to work.

Good luck!

 

[Automaton]

Hey NickyD. I know how you feel. My dad still smokes too. He's giving e-cigs a second shot as of today, so here's hoping.

First of all, something has to give. With the current technology, good, consistent performance with low maintenance, small form factor, and good battery life does not exist. There is no e-cigarette that fits that description perfectly. If there was... we'd all be using it.

So here's what I'm going to suggest.

The Kr808D-1, or the 510. Both are slightly larger than cigs, but they perform well. Most things that are smaller... don't. So, pro's and con's...

Kr808D-1
- Good battery life for its size - 4 to 6 hours.
- Cartomizers last me 2-3 hours - again, this is pretty good as e-cigs go.
- Cartomizers, however, take some practice to learn to refill properly, and they are basically disposable. If she doesn't want to maintain them regularly, they will become unusable after 5 or 6 refills.

510
- Lots of vapor, and slightly "lighter" than the Kr808D-1. May be better suited to a "lights" smoker.
- Not the best battery life - 2 to 3 hours. Consider buying a charging case for on the go.
- Carts need to be refilled frequently, but they last virtually forever.

Also keep in mind... what she really needs may be different than what you think she needs.

I set up my dad with a Kr808D-1, thinking he wanted simplicity. He hated it.

But he tried my 510 with a drip tip (no cart, you drip right on the atomizers - you need to drip every 10 puffs or so, so it's high-maintenance) and he loves it. Go figure. That was not what I expected at all.

So... for my money... here's what I'd do.

Get a Kr808D-1 kit. And get a 901 atomizer, 5 empty carts, and a drip tip. You're covering all your bases. She can try cartomizers, carts, and dripping. The 901 atomizers works on Kr808D-1 batteries.

Or, get a 510, and get a drip tip and 510 cartomizers. Same concept. Keep in mind, the battery life is less. But it's smaller than the Kr808D-1 with cartomizers on it.

Get 3 5ml bottles of juice in a tobacco flavor - I highly recommend FreedomSmokeUSA.com - one in 12mg, one in 18mg, and one in 24mg.

Try to get her reading this forum. Do some reading yourself. Help each other through it.

Best of luck.

 

[Lemon-aid]

The 510 is a great place to start and the ego is a 510 with a much bigger battery. With the ego you could go all day on one battery, mine last that long for me. The cartomizer is a good idea because she could pre-load a few and just switch them out when they get close to dry.

Keep in mind that its not as easy as just pulling out a cig and lighting up, it takes some time to learn how to use it properly, maintain it, find the right juice. Also, there is no juice that tastes like a real cig. Real cigs burn and therefor taste burnt. These dont unless your doing something wrong. The upside though is there are soooo many flavors that im sure she will find something she likes.

You have nothing to lose so I say go for it. You might want to steer her towards this forum for support and/or just some generally great people to chat with about vaping.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

The thing about e-cigs is that the ones that look like a cigarette really don't work very well at all, and none of them taste like a cigarette - so she needs to be open to giving it a chance in order for it to work.

Good luck!

Dead on.

First, a convenient to carry (i.e. small), cigarette-like PV and something that doesn't require a lot of recharging are contradictory. The best compromise is probably Rosa's thought on the eGo (or Riva, or Hello 016).

All that is moot if she won't use them, of course.

I viewed e-cigarettes from afar, through the lens of FREE TRIAL! spam emails. They appeared to be yet another gimmick, a non-smoker's ill-conceived notion of what the motivation to smoke was all about. I only broke down and gave them a try due to the de facto prohibition on cigarettes by means of excessive taxation.

And I only continued to use them when I began to see them as something pleasurable to do for their own strengths--one of which replacing the smoking act in all of its aspects is not.

 

[banjo]

The less daily maintenance that your Mom will have to do with an eCig the quicker she will adjust to it. Even though it is larger than a cigarette, I would recommend a Joye eGO kit. It has a larger cartridge for fluid, and a larger battery that should get her through a full day of vaping. Check the eGO kit at FreedomSmokeUSA - David and Pam at FreedomSmokeUSA are very friendly, and if you call them at 1-800-705-7013, they will be glad to discuss your options on hardware, and will suggest some great juices that might appeal to your mother. This would give you the opportunity to shop with just one supplier, and their service is wonderful.

 

[SimpleSins]

I have to agree with Rose on this. If you have not had a discussion with your mother first, do not invest in a lot of equipment that is liable to end up either sitting in a drawer or making your mother feel bad. Better to pick up a disposable and be very cavalier about it...."Gee, mom, I saw these when I was out and I just picked one up to see if you'd heard of them". She can either try it or it could start a conversation that leads to you ending up getting a full-fledged starter kit, but until she has expressed an interest in moving toward that point, I would not recommend getting it. NOTE: This is coming from a 50+ year old who had smoked for 35+ years and am basing my opinion on how I would have felt had my children bestowed a whole bunch of ecig stuff on me without any discussion first.

 

[pugh1537]

I just got my 510 PCC kit today and have not had a cig since i opened the package. I bought my 510 kit from Madvapes for 49.99 which included 2 complete ecigs, 10 ml of juice and a PCC (charging case). Love it so far. Good Luck with your mom.

 

[Rosa]

Smokers are rebels by nature, IMO. If you can get her to think it was her idea then it'll work out better.

 

[chimney55]

I have to agree with Rose on this. If you have not had a discussion with your mother first, do not invest in a lot of equipment that is liable to end up either sitting in a drawer or making your mother feel bad. Better to pick up a disposable and be very cavalier about it...."Gee, mom, I saw these when I was out and I just picked one up to see if you'd heard of them". She can either try it or it could start a conversation that leads to you ending up getting a full-fledged starter kit, but until she has expressed an interest in moving toward that point, I would not recommend getting it. NOTE: This is coming from a 50+ year old who had smoked for 35+ years and am basing my opinion on how I would have felt had my children bestowed a whole bunch of ecig stuff on me without any discussion first.

Smokers are rebels by nature, IMO. If you can get her to think it was her idea then it'll work out better.

I have to agree with both of these answers. I'm 55 as well and have been smoking for more than 35 years. I've tried quitting before, but it's always been someone else that has "suggested" it. Usually, doctors, "friends", or parents. So when I'd "try", I had a "rebellious nature". It would be better if she thought that it was her idea. Although, I do agree with the $10 disposable idea. You could say that you saw that and thought of your mom. You searched it out on a forum, and saw that people were loving them. Of course, you could explain that it wasn't a "big investment" so that she doesn't feel bad. And then, tell her that there are models that are more expensive, (that work better and taste better) IF she would decide herself that she would like to try them. JMHO.

 

[Rosa]

For me, it helped to tell myself that I wasn't quitting - just switching brands. Perhaps if you "sell" it to her that way, she'll be more receptive.

Just tell her it's this new kind of cigarette that's been getting a lot of attention, it's supposed to be better for her than traditional cigarettes and you thought she might try it and see if she likes it. Then quickly change the subject - if she's interested, they'll be there for her to choose.

 

[chimney55]

For me, it helped to tell myself that I wasn't quitting - just switching brands. Perhaps if you "sell" it to her that way, she'll be more receptive.

Just tell her it's this new kind of cigarette that's been getting a lot of attention, it's supposed to be better for her than traditional cigarettes and you thought she might try it and see if she likes it. Then quickly change the subject - if she's interested, they'll be there for her to choose.

Oooh! That's good advice! Don't try to "sell" her on quitting, just finding a healthier way to do it.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

Smokers are rebels by nature, IMO. If you can get her to think it was her idea then it'll work out better.

Yes, that's true. We're rebels--which is why I see risk in sentence #2.

Part of our nature is self-reliance and confidence in our own intelligence, and we're apt to react disproportionately if we sense someone insulting it. Which getting her to think it was her idea might do.

 

[Rosa]

Yes, that's true. We're rebels--which is why I see risk in sentence #2.

Part of our nature is self-reliance and confidence in our own intelligence, and we're apt to react disproportionately if we sense someone insulting it. Which getting her to think it was her idea might do.

yeah, good point.

 

[smitti1]

Yes, I'm a rebel smoker too. Didn't want anyone telling or asking me to quit. Didn't even want to quit because I enjoy it. At the same time I did want to quit, but it had to be my idea, not someone elses. I had given up thinking I even could give them up until I heard of the e-cig. It sounded like maybe it might work for me. So here I am enjoying vaping along with the rest of these great people. I knew I could do it within 5 min of using my Ego. I've already been cutting back on the mg of nicotine faster than I ever imagined, and didn't really think I would do that to begin with. I had smoked for 47 yrs, and ended up a heavy smoker... 2-1/2 pks a day. Even if I hadn't cut back on the nicotine, I felt better just not smoking. Vaping feels like I'm still smoking, but I'm not. It's actually been fun!

I agree with the others. Talk to her about the e-cigs, give her some info that she can read, help educate her about them, let her think about it for awhile without any pressure. Let her know what you are willing to do and wait for her feedback. It might not happen overnight, so be patient. Tell her my story, ask me questions. We are all rooting for you! Good luck!

 

[BadThad]

Some great advice in this thread....listen closely.

My only input is on the importance of the eliquid. If someone is going to convert, they MUST like the flavor a LOT. When I break out all my flavors for newbies to try they seem to always reject some of them.....sometimes harshly. Luckily, I'm always able to find one they like and that changes their opinion pretty quick. If I were to let a newbie only try one liquid and they hated it, they would forever view ecigs in a negative light. Therein lies the primary problem with giving someone an ecig as a gift. All people are different and all people like different tastes/flavors. It's really up to them to discover the liquid that will work for them and they have to be willing to try to find one.

 

[Sandybeach40]

Get her a KR808 D-1. My reason for this is the Variety of cartomizers availible. Your biggest challenge is going to be finding the flavor for her and this will be alot easier if she can just change carto's to try new flavors rather than trying to clean out a atty.

Get her as many flavors as possible to try out. She might surprise you and love to vape peach or grape who knows. Don't get to caught up with getting a flavor that taste like Winston because in my experience the closer I get to the real thing the nastier it gets.

In my opinion its cheaper to go with a Ego or a 510 and just drip but if your moms like my mom she isnt going to want to fuss with filling carts or dripping or cleaning attys or leaking or drinking juice.

Im going to try to convert my mom just as soon as I can afford to pay it forward.