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Okay, terminator it is, then. I will order later today when I figure out what else to order with it. Then I can decide if rebuildable is something I can/will do. If so, I will look at the kayfun or other options.
Thanks for all your help! I'm sure I will be here begging for more help when I get my stuff.
Thanks for all your help! I'm sure I will be here begging for more help when I get my stuff.
What I have in my cart. I think I already have some 32 gauge kanthal somewhere around here. At any rate, got vapes didn't have any so if I don't have some ill have to order it somewhere else.
The one thing that bugging me about the terminator is that it is said to be a ..... to refil. I make my own cartomizer tanks, and I use a belt hole punch to make a small clean hole in the tank. I use a silicone earring back (with the hole plugged) to cap the fill hole. This allows me to refil with a needle top bottle or a syringe. This is really super fast, seems perfectly airtight, and I love the ease of filling. Takes seconds. The silicone earring backs are cheap as dirt, so when they start to get stiff and yellowed i just replace them. I wonder if it would be possible to somehow modify the terminator tank to make it a side fill?
The one thing that bugging me about the terminator is that it is said to be a ..... to refil. I make my own cartomizer tanks, and I use a belt hole punch to make a small clean hole in the tank. I use a silicone earring back (with the hole plugged) to cap the fill hole. This allows me to refil with a needle top bottle or a syringe. This is really super fast, seems perfectly airtight, and I love the ease of filling. Takes seconds. The silicone earring backs are cheap as dirt, so when they start to get stiff and yellowed i just replace them. I wonder if it would be possible to somehow modify the terminator tank to make it a side fill?
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I have the Terminator Tank and refilling is fine, I push the atty part as far up as it will go, fill with the bottom cap off, and replace the bottom cap. That said, I wouldn't recommend a Terminator. It's a major pain to rebuild with resistance and non resistance wire, tiny space to work with, and very poor fitting ceramic cup and pin. And the flavor does not compare to a Aga-T or RSST with stainless steel wicks. Depends on your tolerance of the learning curve for SS wicks whether this is a good choice for you.
Okay, I think I was a bit confused. There is a terminator and a terminator tt. I think I was confusing the reviews wrt filling difficulties. I read some more stuff, and I like the look of the tt, and the fact that it can go in a cartomizer type tank. Some reviews said the tank it comes with is wobbly, but others say it works well if you use an agr tank rather than the one it comes with. The fact that you do have to use the nr wire scurrs me a little, but I watched some videos and it doesn't seem too hard (famous last words, I'm sure).
I'm also interested in the aga and the rsst types, although I don't like the looks of them as much. I found the aga t+ on got vapes, and that looks good. There seems to be a glass replacement tank, though they are out of stock at the moment.
I'm thinking about ordering both, to see which style I like best. What about this for an order...
That gets me two different mesh sizes to use in the aga. Silica wick for the terminator tt. Two different wire sizes. An agr tank for the terminator tt, and if don't like the tt I can use the tank for cartos. I also added the carto punch since I currently use a saddle valve and I've been wanting a real punch. Seems like I can get some silver wire at a hobby lobby or some place that sells beading supplies. Then, if I like the agr t+ I can order some glass tank sleeves to go with it later on when they are in stock.
I'm also interested in the aga and the rsst types, although I don't like the looks of them as much. I found the aga t+ on got vapes, and that looks good. There seems to be a glass replacement tank, though they are out of stock at the moment.
I'm thinking about ordering both, to see which style I like best. What about this for an order...
That gets me two different mesh sizes to use in the aga. Silica wick for the terminator tt. Two different wire sizes. An agr tank for the terminator tt, and if don't like the tt I can use the tank for cartos. I also added the carto punch since I currently use a saddle valve and I've been wanting a real punch. Seems like I can get some silver wire at a hobby lobby or some place that sells beading supplies. Then, if I like the agr t+ I can order some glass tank sleeves to go with it later on when they are in stock.
Hello from a fellow Ohioan. I know this is a bit out of the price range that you mentioned but I am going to suggest the Kayfun Lite. It will run you about $100 but is well worth the money for ease of setup and use, overall build quality, and most importantly the quality of the vape. I have used tons of different rebuildable drippers and genesis style atomizers and I think this is the best investment I have made. You will be much better off buying a perfect $100 item than buying a bunch of stuff that is in the $15-$60 range. I have a drawer full of cheapos and they don't get pulled out too often unless I want to try a new coil type. Here is my Lite on a Segelei 19 that I have put a lot of work into.
Where do I buy a kayfun lite?
I couldn't find them in stock anywhere. Seems like a lot buy them directly from intaste, but they don't have them in stock either. If so, I might just go ahead and get it.
Even if I go to the Russian svoemesto site, they are out of stock. For some reason my ipad won't let me copy that link, but I googled svoemesto and clicked on the translate link.
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I got mine from Kayfun Lite - InTaste. You can sign up to get notices on when they get restocked. Grand total with shipping was less than $100 (because we don't have to pay the VAT tax) and it arrived at my door 3 days after I ordered it. I know vaperev will have them soon as well, you can call or email them to find out about availability and price.
Thread jacking for a sec sorry. Hey jimz about the end of this month vapor Lanzhou should have a b&m down by base. They will have everything the shops around here don't. Plus the know how. I don't work for them but I do go over there to learn new things heck they are the ones who walked me thru rba's and most recently sub ohm. OK now back to the thread. To the op if you don't like the tilt then I'm not sure a gennie is for you. Trying new things is what vaping is all about you might find that the tilt is worth it for the flavor/vapor quality. Take baby steps. Get a multimeter as this will take the guess work out. Start at a high ohm to get the feel of it then plunge into low ohm for gits and shiggles.
Multimeter, that's what I was trying to say that I already have. What did I call it in that first post 'ohm reader thingie'? Lol. The name escaped me. I also have a butane torch that I use in my pottery studio. Looks like that would come in handy for oxidizing things. I'm really only interested in 2-2.5-2.8 ohm range at the moment.
I just took apart a protank head to see what it looked like in there and to do a burn on it. I'd have to dig up a magnifying glass or at least have my reading glasses to see how the wires go. I'll look at that later and maybe give that a try if/when I actually place an order for supplies.
I just took apart a protank head to see what it looked like in there and to do a burn on it. I'd have to dig up a magnifying glass or at least have my reading glasses to see how the wires go. I'll look at that later and maybe give that a try if/when I actually place an order for supplies.
Do a search on ecf for hypercolored Pyrex tanks. I have had mine for a while glass is a better quality and having a colored tank is just cool.
You'll find tutorials on youtube for rebuilding the most popular clearos. If I'm not entirely mistaken, it's the same principle for all the Kangers. Evod, T3, MT3, ProTank, etc.
I think rebuilding those with silica wicks is a great way to get started. Maybe you find you don't have the need for SS mesh and such. Those setups are fairly elaborate to learn, and does come with a fair bit more safety issues. A silica wick won't short your circuit unless you've already shorted your wires. You will have bigger issues with SS mesh, as it's conductive.
Be safe, and do use a VV-mod with short protection (like a vamo/provari etc) at least until you feel confident you don't short stuff. Even then, it's possible to make a mistake.
Not trying to scare you away from rebuilding. Just trying to scare you enough to keep safety in mind
I think rebuilding those with silica wicks is a great way to get started. Maybe you find you don't have the need for SS mesh and such. Those setups are fairly elaborate to learn, and does come with a fair bit more safety issues. A silica wick won't short your circuit unless you've already shorted your wires. You will have bigger issues with SS mesh, as it's conductive.
Be safe, and do use a VV-mod with short protection (like a vamo/provari etc) at least until you feel confident you don't short stuff. Even then, it's possible to make a mistake.
Not trying to scare you away from rebuilding. Just trying to scare you enough to keep safety in mind
The Terminator TT is more difficult to rebuild that any of the other RBA's you are looking at, simply due to the small space. You will need higher resistance wire for the Terminator TT because you can't fit many wraps on the coil, and you will need to be extremely efficient at joining the resistance and non-resistance wire together because the distance from the coil to the holes in the bottom of the ceramic is so short. Add to that prying the bottom pin out of the ceramic with a NR wire tucked in there requires King Kong strength mixed with Fay Ray gentleness. I've broken 2 ceramic cups trying to rebuild them. The Terminator TT is not a RBA for the uninitiated. It works fine in the AGR tank once you get it rebuilt. There's a reason why Todd took a circular saw and a hammer to it in his video review.
Opinions may vary, but I don't think the joining of resistance and non-resistance wires is the place to start.
If you want to work with silica, re-coil any clearo, get a dripper or virtually anything. If you want to learn to work with SS mesh, get an Aga and a VV mod with Ohm-meter that prevents you from blowing your continent off the face of the earth.
(May contain slight exaggerations for sake of drama and emphasizing safety)
If you want to work with silica, re-coil any clearo, get a dripper or virtually anything. If you want to learn to work with SS mesh, get an Aga and a VV mod with Ohm-meter that prevents you from blowing your continent off the face of the earth.
(May contain slight exaggerations for sake of drama and emphasizing safety)
I did say in my first post that I have a vamo and a provari. Also a multimeter, though I had forgotten the name of it. I only have a couple of batteries that don't have an ohm meter, and they are not 501 threaded. I definitely plan on checking the ohms of everything and also learning how to check for hot spots before I try to use anything. I'm getting lots of (what feels like, to me) conflicting advice here, which i totally understand is the nature of this sort of thing. Everyone is offering valid opinions. But... I have to sort through it and decide where to start. E.g. Protank would be a good place to start, but then maybe it wouldn't because it's too small and difficult to keep the wires from crossing and shorting. Aga or rstt would be a good place to start, but then again maybe not because working with silica is easier than working with mesh because the mesh can be a conductor. Terminator is good, but no, because it's too small and you have to join two different types of wire. I love all the Greek built options, but, even if I can find them in stock, I worry about availability of replacement parts if something should break. I'm not upset with the advice, but frankly I simply can't find something that everyone will think is a perfect starting place for me.
I ordered the aga t+ and a couple of terminator tt atomizers, plus some different wires and mesh and silica wick. I understand the tt's are going to be difficult to work with, so I will probably start with the aga. I will also try to rebuild a protank head, although it's been mentioned that will be difficult as well. Maybe I will try to rebuild a vivi nova too. I don't like them, but it's worth a go.
I have very steady hands and a lot of patience. Hell, in my last job I used to have to dissect fruit fly maggot eyes (imaginal discs) under a dissecting scope. Those suckers are, like 200 microns across. Of course, imaginal discs don't short out and blow your battery, but I'm pretty good with tiny fiddly things. Lol. I'm also very concerned with safety but I do appreciate the warnings. I will definitely be watching YouTube vidoes many times with the pieces in front of me before I start attempting this. I sort of need to have something in my hands though, before I start thinking too much about it. I'm definitely a hands on learner.
Again, I do appreciate all the input and I've tried to keep it all in my head as I was choosing things. I'm sure I will be trying other things as I get my feet wet.
I ordered the aga t+ and a couple of terminator tt atomizers, plus some different wires and mesh and silica wick. I understand the tt's are going to be difficult to work with, so I will probably start with the aga. I will also try to rebuild a protank head, although it's been mentioned that will be difficult as well. Maybe I will try to rebuild a vivi nova too. I don't like them, but it's worth a go.
I have very steady hands and a lot of patience. Hell, in my last job I used to have to dissect fruit fly maggot eyes (imaginal discs) under a dissecting scope. Those suckers are, like 200 microns across. Of course, imaginal discs don't short out and blow your battery, but I'm pretty good with tiny fiddly things. Lol. I'm also very concerned with safety but I do appreciate the warnings. I will definitely be watching YouTube vidoes many times with the pieces in front of me before I start attempting this. I sort of need to have something in my hands though, before I start thinking too much about it. I'm definitely a hands on learner.
Again, I do appreciate all the input and I've tried to keep it all in my head as I was choosing things. I'm sure I will be trying other things as I get my feet wet.
Hehe what to say without adding to the confusion.
Definitely a hands on thing. It's easy to overthink it before just jumping in. As long as you use your provari or vamo, you shouldn't really have any issues with shorts. Hotspots is mainly a SS mesh thing. Even there, you won't really know until you simply fire it up. Hotspots might snap your coil, but they won't damage your battery. Coil will simply snap and there's no longer an electrical circuit to worry about. Just try again.
Also, with your totally fly abilities2cool you should have no problems working on any of the Kanger heads. Just pick one apart and/or watch a tutorial and you'll see theres really not an enormous potential for getting it wrong. Even if you did, your VV mods don't fire them up if they're shorted.
I'm no expert. Neither do you have to be.
(Never tried the Terminator TT, but the Aga is a challenge at first. Just fail until you get it right.)
Can I ask... what what what why do people dissect fly maggot eyes? Really curious. Never heard of such a thing.
Definitely a hands on thing. It's easy to overthink it before just jumping in. As long as you use your provari or vamo, you shouldn't really have any issues with shorts. Hotspots is mainly a SS mesh thing. Even there, you won't really know until you simply fire it up. Hotspots might snap your coil, but they won't damage your battery. Coil will simply snap and there's no longer an electrical circuit to worry about. Just try again.
Also, with your totally fly abilities
2cool you should have no problems working on any of the Kanger heads. Just pick one apart and/or watch a tutorial and you'll see theres really not an enormous potential for getting it wrong. Even if you did, your VV mods don't fire them up if they're shorted.I'm no expert. Neither do you have to be.
(Never tried the Terminator TT, but the Aga is a challenge at first. Just fail until you get it right.)
Can I ask... what what what why do people dissect fly maggot eyes? Really curious. Never heard of such a thing.
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