Think of the wick as a frying pan. The bigger the pan, the bigger the omelet!
Now set the temperature on the stove.
Good luck.
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Think of the wick as a frying pan. The bigger the pan, the bigger the omelet!
Now set the temperature on the stove.
Good luck.
I don't imagine the coils would "stick" as I have heard described with tension coils but has anyone tried twisted tensions?
Yup- I'm running a twisted tension coil in my nuppin... Rene 41 wire this coil has never been fire compressed-
Twisted as I've experienced it, cuts the ohms of a given coil in half, presents more coil surface area and the coil holds on to some liquid after a squonk. some swear by it, not worth the trouble to me and much harder to wick with RxW.
Mundy's Magic wire really gives more surface area, holds onto more juice and produces intense flavor. I just wish MM would work with a 1.2 ohm coil but it just takes to long to heat up, for sub ohms it's great stuff. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...92-alexander-mundys-magic-twisted-ribbon.html
Mundy's Magic wire really gives more surface area, holds onto more juice and produces intense flavor. I just wish MM would work with a 1.2 ohm coil but it just takes to long to heat up, for sub ohms it's great stuff. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...92-alexander-mundys-magic-twisted-ribbon.html
Yup, I've been itching to try MM but just haven't gotten around to trying to spin it. I'd buy some if anyone sold it...lol.
They will if you consider that adhesion is the point wire starts to stretch. The wire don't care what shape it's in. And the physics don't change.
Twisted wire can be tensioned into contact bigfly but they don't get quite as sticky without more tension. So it's not as easy a hand wind. The benefit not as significant compared with the more uniform contact of straight wire when you don't (and they may tend to separate if so). But it does amplify the effect in my estimation.
A massive 3mm perfectly symmetrical tensioned twisted on the Immortalizer/ZNA (unfortunately and definitely over-tight, a concern as not-productive but the opposite, high res)…
It's all I vaped for myself most of the last 16 months until Aug when I started to seek efficient tension strategies for parallels. Twained pairs are cooler than straight wire with the parallel variety delivering a slight airier drier vape on the other side. With twisted if you're successful in aligning the knurls or knuckles so that they interlock, and you didn't over-tighten to do it, you can achieve an even greater area of surface contact than with straight wire both electrically and to the wick surface. Then they really shine and are truly worth it. It's a build you won't want to take down. I think it's a really useful wind for variable power and if you want a great deal of cool density. Terrific flavor from that density. So some interesting combo's of vapor and flavor are possible. Something you definitely want in your repertoire.
Good luck.
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I'm kind of hooked on "twisted tensions" actually... after using them for a while, I've found it hard to go back to non twisted micros. Not only do the twisted coils cut resistance in half and create more surface area, but they are also "tougher" and stand up much better to high watts. So for example, when vaping on a 50 watt box in the 40 to 49 watt range (for those times when you crave that extra 'umph'), twisted micro coils out-perform non twisted by a big margin. But I've taken to using them in almost all my atties regardless of the mod.
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I'm kind of hooked on "twisted tensions" actually... after using them for a while, I've found it hard to go back to non twisted micros. Not only do the twisted coils cut resistance in half and create more surface area, but they are also "tougher" and stand up much better to high watts. So for example, when vaping on a 50 watt box in the 40 to 49 watt range (for those times when you crave that extra 'umph'), twisted micro coils out-perform non twisted by a big margin. But I've taken to using them in almost all my atties regardless of the mod.
Puppy! Sorry I had too, That's a cute one!
I really find this interesting regarding tensioned coils. I know there is related science out there that could really step up the game for vaping, its just finding out what applies and how we can use it to our advantage. I think I'll try the gizmo, and experiment with this concept. For the minimal cost that it is, I'm sure its worth the entry price, even if its just to experiment.
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It really is, I am in the process of recoiling my mech and Reo for the vape summit in Houston this weekend and my coils look amazing. It's just so dang easy and they are always perfect. For a perfectionist it's all I can ask for.
I just wish my KGD would've gotten here this week but it will give me something to do in my free time Monday.
Most of what I've written on the subject you will find right here on ECF as I've posted to the thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/486794-protank-microcoil-discussion.html. There you'll find a bunch of able tension vet's that can likely answer most any question you might have. If you get hung up hail me there or PM and tame the wire you will Bboy.
Good luck.
From what I myself experienced, you get a lower ohm ( and a warmer vape) for essentially the same sized coil, so it's a condensed heat 'splosion, and there is more surface areo on that little bitty area to collect and automatically make the juice go poof. For me at least it's led to more flavor and vapor in a shorter pull
When I was doing coils by hand twisted were the easiest to pull off because it gave them a little more rigidity, and I loved the vape/flavor they gave off. I haven't tried them on the gizmo because I've just been doing singles. I really need to try a dual twisted in the near future. I forget where it is but took some pictures of my first coil in a Reo, twisted single coil at about .5 ohms. The juice ran into the twists and was vaporized almost instantly.
The gizmo gives me options to try other things, but if I wanted to do it by hand the twisted would be the way to go.
Not the best pics but that was my first coil in the Reo. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/618775-so-begins.html
The gizmo gives me options to try other things, but if I wanted to do it by hand the twisted would be the way to go.
Not the best pics but that was my first coil in the Reo. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/618775-so-begins.html
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Reign, if you were to take that coil in your link and make another one for dual's I'm assuming the ohms would come out to .25? And to make a twisted coil one simply twists two pieces of the same gauge together before wrapping, or is there more to it than that?
That's correct if I ran two coils exactly like the photo it would be about .25. But I would build to a higher resistance to get .5 if I was doing duals, I don't build below .4 right now. So I would build two twisted coils with a resistance of 1 ohm but when ran parallel would give me .5.
What I do to make a twisted coil is take two equal lengths of kanthal and straighten each strand first with a micro chuck in a power drill. Then put both strands together in the micro chuck and twist them together, then wrap them by hand around a 3/32" drill bit. 1/16" was too small for me to do by hand. I got that trick from RipTrippers video on how to straighten kanthal.
Micro Chuck - http://www.amazon.com/TEMO-Keyless-...8&qid=1415401974&sr=8-16&keywords=Micro+Chuck
Straightening Kanthal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA_iUkuKufs&list=PLKD8bdRWqx77f-ie7-TyYDzFo_Eh3I2zY
The only thing I have used from his vids but it works well.
Edit: I wanted to add if you have a power drill that will hold a single strand of 28ga. you do not need the micro chuck, mine wouldn't so I had to order it for this to work.
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Ah! Power tools, yikes lol! I'll have to watch that video. I may be back with more questions. I'm always wanting to try new things but this seems like it might be a lot of work. I'm wondering to if twisted coils put a lot more strain on a battery than normal coils?
It is a little bit of work but well worth it in my humble opinion. As far as I understand it so far it will not put any more strain on a battery than a regular .5 ohm coil. Having said that I am new to all of this, but have been at it longer than my banner suggests I had a slip up with analogs.
But when I get into something I get as far into it as I can. When I needed a gaming PC I researched it online and then built my own, and I have applied that same type of vigor to my vaping journey.
Edit: The only difference I have noticed in single vs. twisted is a .5 ohm coil single heats up a little faster than a twisted .5 ohm coil. I easily got around this by pressing the fire button a second or two before starting to take a pull off of it. With a single coil I start to pull as soon as I fire it.
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