GLASSMANOAK'S Contest Thread #121.for WINNERS and with MULTIPLE WINNERS !!

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@CountBoredom - I may have slept til 8 am twice in my life. :lol:
Not me. When I was in high school, collage, and even later, I followed the typical routine of late nights and sleeping until noon, if I could. Even later in my life, sleeping until 8 or 9 was not unheard of. However, following my quitting smoking and taking up vaping, I've also started cutting down on my caffeine intake through soda and such, and found that my sleep schedule has changed--I tend to fall asleep earlier and rise earlier. And while I can still do the occasional late night, the wake up time remains generally the same.

Uncle, another Syfy show that you may enjoy (also on Netflix) is Continuum. Just a suggestion for when you run out of Haven episodes...

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Good Sunday mornin everybody:)
Looking forward to another episode @tiggerrts
@CountBoredom @rangerrobin and others who sleep, ..or try to ...Sleep is one of those amazing things ...anyone who has gone sleepless for a few days knows you don't need to take any drugs to feel really surreal and out-of-body ....inanimate objects start moving on me...my mind plays tricks ...sometimes I hear things ...Science knows there are different stages to sleep ..and that we need to have the one's where the repair and maintenance go on in order to stay healthy. Even more interesting are the studies of folks who voluntarily went into a cave ..don't remem the study ...where they could not see light or dark from the outside...and they eventually fell into patterns ....hibernating animals fascinate me ...it's like their Rip Van Winkle instinct ...or something syfi ...like a cryo induced sleep ...I know I slept much more in Alaska in the Winter's when there was only about 3 hours of dusky daylight ..and slept less in Summer when the sun didn't sink below the horizon .... I worked with a guy who was studied by the Navy ...he has only ever been able to sleep about 2-3 hours a night ....so there is some individuality involved ...as to how much you need ...And particularly ...how you FEEL after a period of sleep ...I myself tend to get physically sick if I nap longer than an hour or so....anything more ..and I am nauseated , disoriented and out-of-sorts ...I am the same way if awakened abruptly out of what I think is probably a deep sleep ....I just feel ill and sometimes pass out.
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I was pondering the validity and "need" for my proposed newby document last night, then thought more about liblue's suggestions and did some searches with modified search parameters and found several sites that are very "newby oriented." The writer in me says they could still be "fixed" and they do not contain the simple drawings I had in mind, but I then started questioning my own motives. Am I trying to push something on my sister (or others) with this desire to "use simple words" to make them understand? If I just share the links to some of those "intro to vaping" sites and let her/them make the decisions to ask for more, would that be better? I do not want to come across - to anyone - as an "evangelist for vaping." If, when I started, someone "pushed me" to throw away my cigarettes and buy a better mod/tank and vape full time, even if they PIF'd me some great e-liquids, I very likely would have pushed back, maybe even smoking more out of spite. I understand that Tiffani is still seeking a lot more information, but she clearly has a burning desire, and I don't think my sister does. Does this whole thing only work if you travel that long lonesome highway by yourself? Lannie and I did it together, reinforcing each other's needs/desires and discussing every step along the way, but we live in the same house and my sister is 1,400 miles away, so I cannot hold her hand. I am very happy to stay with tootle puffing while Lannie has moved on to mod whomping (she's not a cloud chucker yet), but the concepts are similar (so she uses different tanks and coils - no biggie). Sis is obviously not happy with the EVOD-style, but should I even be pushing at all?

Please share your thoughts.

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@Uncle - Loved Eureka and was sad to see it end too.

@CountBoredom - The only way I ever slept until noon was durin' my "clubbin'" days, but I was gettin' home between 5am - 6am. :2c:

Love Continuum! Still have the 6 eps from the last season to watch. ;)

Other Canadian shows I like, include: Lost Girl, Nikita, Motive and Flashpoint.

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@Fuzzy Thunderbear The person who got me started vaping has since quit and went back to smokes. I have persevered with quite a few missteps along the way. Had I not wanted to vape, no info in the world could have made me start vaping. Just like quitting smoking cold turkey, the desire has to be there first. I quit cold turkey in 98 and it was as easy as breathing. Why was it easy? Because I wanted to quit. With your sister the old adage applies here, you can lead that horse to water but you can't make it drink. Just my opinion... Now...back to my corner.
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Well I believe the old saying about the horse...........you can lead them to water...but you can't make them drink.........so I guess that's my answer............is there someone there that can talk with or visit a vape shop and they can help her? because if you do push too hard they will turn away..............
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@Fuzzy Thunderbear I would ask how she's doing. Offer assistance and let it go. I have a daughter that around me is all sorts of Vape happy, but when around her so called friends is more Vape what ? In my life people have had to change themselves on their own pace if at all. But if the info is available but not shoved down their throat they usually get there. @Uncle red box has the Avengers movie. We don't have Netflix as the hubby won't get it. When we let the kids have it before I got nothing but kids glued to the tv binge watching everything.

Have a good day all

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Reading about all you people who sleep. I did a sleep study last year. I spent 80% of the night in stage 2 sleep. 15 minutes in stage 4. 0 minutes on stage 3. And a little time in stage 1 and have restless leg syndrome such that I was told I could have run a marathon.

I was told to lose weight. Not sure how this addresses the problem of not even entering stage three and barely stage 4. So mostly I am up all night whether I wish to be or not and will fall asleep in the early morning until mid day. So days when I can't sleep in the daytime I generally get by on one to two hours sleep. Since my paternal grandma, my father and my birth mother all passed fairly young and I am almost to the age of my dad's first stroke this scares me. So quitting smoking is my first step to try to hold body and soul together for longer than my parents were able. I envy you who can sleep.

Long ramble to say nothing really. Sorry

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Why was it easy? Because I wanted to quit. With your sister the old adage applies here, you can lead that horse to water but you can't make it drink. Just my opinion... Now...back to my corner.
Honey, come out of the corner more often. Your opinion counts as much as anyone else's (at least to me).

Let me add a comment to my previous comments. Sissy has said she wants to quit. Many many years ago, she went through stop-smoking therapy, patches, gum, hypnosis, even shock therapy (yuck!) and, eventually, she quit. Then she got a divorce, went to a bar, and the first person to offer her a ...., she took it and started right up all over again. She hasn't even tried to quit since (that I know of). I do not know if her stated desire to quit now is real or not. I wonder if it is more like the person who says he wants to win the lottery but never buys a ticket. On the phone, she wanted the starter kit and juice, and she claims she is using it but it doesn't give her the satisfaction she desires. I know that if she had something with which she could "turn up the heat," she'd get more flavor and, probably, find that satisfaction she wants. I just don't know what to do to get her there.

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I must say that for years I would look at a cigarette(hold it up and stare with THAT face) and say out loud that "I really should quit"...but didn't make much attempt.....for years I went through coughing & hacking....morning smokers cough and not to mention the inability to walk long distances or upstairs.....but I would always counter it with..."but I like to smoke"....so I didn't really want to quit...even though I said I did out loud.....I have stopped for long periods of time in my life but always returned for one reason or another...this is the first time that I really wanted to because it tasted so bad.....and the flavors were what helped me....I think I was off of tobacco flavor in the first month.....I still have some in the freezer (JIC)...but moved to coffee and sweets right away...because of YT & ECF it didn't take me long to find my perfect vape....even today I still like to try some new things...but I always go back to my puck mod in the end(my Owl box mod goes out with me & is the first thing in the morning choice)....it's become my new cigarette....
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Thanks for the confession, @liblue1 . Mine is similar... talked about quitting and how much money we could save each month, etc., etc. The bottom line, however, was that I enjoyed sucking on that ugly stick and blowing smoke out. Vaping allows me to do the same thing (vapor, smoke... it's still a cloud, but doesn't stink up my house anymore). We call the vaporizers Binkies because, to us, they are pacifiers. Put it in your mouth, suck, blow... the placebo effect. What's different? No carcinogens, good smells instead of bad, good flavor (without the calories of candy), and if you can amortize the hardware costs, the e-juice is one helluva lot cheaper than buying cigarettes (for me, about 30 cents a day for juice instead of $12 for two packs of Camels). Is that enough to convince someone to quit smoking? As several of us have said, "Ya gotta wanna."

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Well all I can say is you can't force her to....so just leave it be for now & wait till she asks for more....what starter kit does she have?....I have tried a some and it's nothing compared to the iStick....mostly because I like to "see" how hot it is...and knowing I can go up or down when I want to easily.....I still don't like the batteries in the other mods..but I must admit I am using them regularly....charging at least 1 mod/day....plus the iStick....and my puck.....but I know I am a heavy vaper as I do it all day long...............so with 3-4 going for different needs (one is filled with zero all the way to a 9 mg).....it took me this long to get down that low....there are so many variables I can see(remember) why it's hard at the beginning...especially when you are not there in person to help.....
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@Fuzzy Thunderbear, I think that, more importantly than wanting to quit smoking, there needs to be a willingness to give vaping a chance. Vaping is more complicated than smoking. With smoking, all you need is a cigarette and a lighter. Unless your pack is empty, or the fluid in your lighter (or your book of matches) runs out, you're fine. With vaping, you need to be concerned with the amount of juice, the status of your coil, the charge of your device--and that's just for starters. All things considered, smoking is a lot easier.

When I first got my starter kit, I made sure that I had an entire carton of cigarettes left. I liked smoking and I didn't fully want to quit. I was trying vaping to see what it was like and--maybe--save a little money by not having to buy as many cigarettes. At first, in using my non-adjustable egos, I found that it helped me cut down, but I still had that urge for a real cigarette. However, several factors made it work:

First, because I was not trying to quit, I didn't feel any pressure. If I wanted a cigarette, I had one--and I had an ample supply, so I was never nervous about approaching the LAST one. I didn't beat myself up about it because, well, I wasn't quitting. That said, because I wanted to reduce how much money I spent on cigarettes and the more I smoked the more money I would have to spend, I made a conscious effort to vape a little before I lit up. If I was satisfied after the vape, then I didn't need the cigarette--but if I still wanted one after vaping for five minutes, well then...

Second, like Blue, it was all about the flavors. I deliberately chose non-tobacco flavors (I suppose this would apply to menthol, too, if I had been a menthol smoker). This provided a sharp contrast between the taste of a cigarette and a vape. I purchased my ego kit from a vape shop that allowed me to try a number of flavors before purchasing, and I walked out the door with three of them--non of them resembling tobacco in any way shape or form.

Those two factors made me realize a third: that if I wanted to quit, it wasn't so much about increasing my love of vape above and beyond that of smoke. Instead, it was a matter of reducing my enjoyment of smoking in relation to vaping. By having a vape before any potential cigarette, my mind started realizing just how bad my beloved cigarettes tasted. This was further enhanced by the experience provided by the egos: because of their weaker vapor production, I found that I had to approach them more like a pipe (or what I imaging a pipe to be, since I never tried one) and take several pulls or puffs to generate the same amount of exhalant as did my cigarettes. As I got used to this method for my vape, I also found myself occasionally trying to smoke like that--which really is not as pleasurable as taking a nice long drag.

Within about two or three weeks, this combination of experiences (and an increasing dissatisfaction with cigarettes) had me convinced that I did not wish to continue smoking. Finally, when I reached the end of that last carton, I decided to find out just how long I could go without buying more. One day turned into one week, which turned into a month, and so on... I did progress to more powerful devices within a month or two--I can't remember if it was before or after that--but I enjoyed the fact that I didn't need to recharge my devices as often much more than the additional power. In fact, I stayed vaping between 6-8 watts on 1.5-2.0-ohm coils for at least 6 months.

I hope some of that helps.

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I think it snowed up on the passes yesterday....so it's getting closer.....I just need a couple more days to go shopping...then it can snow like crazy here.......(Always thinking about snow)..................
Well Treefam with that I will bid you a good day and enjoy the rest of the weekend...I will check back in later on today...

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Thanks for the Netflix suggestions, everyone ....
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I did a sleep study last year. I spent 80% of the night in stage 2 sleep. 15 minutes in stage 4. 0 minutes on stage 3. And a little time in stage 1 and have restless leg syndrome such that I was told I could have run a marathon.
I just had a sleep study done ....I haven't seen it yet or conferred with the specialist ...but I too have restless legs ...I didn't know I was doing it in my sleep though, ...and it is disrupting my sleep ...so we'll see how that goes. Apparently, I am spenting almost no time in the restorative/repair stage . Course, one night in a strange bed doesn't always yield the most reliable/ data. :rolleyes:
I am sad I did not win one of those new Endura starter kits, @Fuzzy Thunderbear .
They are fairly inexpensive ($30) ...but still outside my reach. I have a friend I sure would like to PIF one to .... who has gone the retail disposable cigalike route and been put off ...as are many...by their "hafta keep buying a new one" gimmick...dry hits and dissatifaction with the hit from ready filled cartos ...admittedly...so much easier to buy a carton of cigs ...there's no dry hits...no swapping of coils...awkward, clumsy refilling of juice...and there's no "running out" of them. The Endura is set at like 14W ...but the coils are quick swap ..no need to wear the ejuice ...and it's TOP FILL. The simplest, easiest new vaper starter kit I've seen yet.
I myself will never buy another bottom fill from here on out...I dislike them THAT much :-x.
Removing the things that overwhelm, annoy and frustrate new vapers is something I think Innokin has wisely and adeptly taken into account with the Endura. Might be worth a try. :2c:
Oh...and I would send 2 (though, yes...for you and I and others on a budget..that's a chunk of dough...but I DO recall my Volcano Inferno kit was over $100...before ECF ...before I knew any better. ) Every vaper ...'specially the new ones, need a back up ..for a smoker/ dual user...backup is a carton of cigs.
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..what starter kit does she have?..
I sent her a couple EVOD-style and someone else got her a couple, so I think all she has at this point is four pen sticks, which are not adjustable in either voltage or wattage. I, personally, didn't really get with the program until I bought an iStick 30W. I also have an iStick TC40W (PIF'd), an SXmini M class (SX350J with software upgrade to 75W) (also PIF'd) and will soon be receiving the Aura mini and Koopor Plus TC that I won through ECF contests. There's also an X6, several EVODs, and a Spire hiding around here somewhere (the Spire has auto-fired several times, so I don't trust it now). My inclination, therefore, is to PIF my iStick30 to my sister (the bigger ones might be too frightening at this point in her journey) because I think she needs more Watts to get the flavor she wants. The only problem with that idea is that the iStick30 is the one, out of all of the above, that is in my hand most often. Sigh...

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