Good morning, everyone. Finally got the scheduling for soccer practice sorted out... now I just need to wait for the office to add some players to the team to replace those who were removed because of conflicts with the erroneous day/time... 

Technically speaking, the Ides only refers to the 15th of the month...Welcome to the Ides of March
I knew there was something else I wanted to quote...that was it....there is an Ides for every month(the 15th)....it's just March is the only one ever talked about......"Beware the ides of March Caesar"..(said in my best soothsayer voice).........Technically speaking, the Ides only refers to the 15th of the month...![]()
Normally I would agree with you, but some really ancient book I read claimed the "Ides" is the first two weeks of the month, during which the troubles brew, culminating on the 15th when the action of that brewing most often takes place. In other cultures, these might also be called "Egyptian Days" with some reference to unrest and uneasiness amongst ancient peoples of that area. Today, however, we just call that "Spring Fever," which I always thought was strange when Spring doesn't start until closer to the end of the month, but back in the days when I had a decent income (AKA the good old days), it was always on or about the first week in March that I went out and bought a new car. Haven't done that in 18 years...Technically speaking, the Ides only refers to the 15th of the month...
That's because he supposedly was killed then. The exact date is still debatable due to changes in the calendar and bad record keeping. Oh well...."Beware the ides of March Caesar".
Yes I believe it's like "Christmas"......they didn't know for sure...(poor records) so they made it up and still use it today....That's because he supposedly was killed then. The exact date is still debatable due to changes in the calendar and bad record keeping. Oh well...
Actually, according to Vatican records (which once were available, but they won't let you near them today), the personage known as Jesus (Yeshua bar Yoseph) was born on March 3, 4 BCE (whatever dates were used then being translated to the modern calendar) and the reason for The Church moving it to December 25th was merely to put their most important celebration (The Christ Mass) over the top of, and thereby smothering, the pagan celebration called The Festival of Saturnalia (now known as the 12 days of Christmas). Isn't ancient history fun?it's like "Christmas"......they didn't know for sure...(poor records) so they made it up and still use it today...
Well there you go bursting my bubble...I thought they picked that day to take away from Yule(Winter Solstice).....because all the pagans were celebrating at that time...(same with Ostera) that they decided to steal it away by saying that it's our Christ's birthday....that's what you are celebrating......(or Death)......Actually, according to Vatican records (which once were available, but they won't let you near them today), the personage known as Jesus (Yeshua bar Yoseph) was born on March 3, 4 BCE (whatever dates were used then being translated to the modern calendar) and the reason for The Church moving it to December 25th was merely to put their most important celebration (The Christ Mass) over the top of, and thereby smothering, the pagan celebration called The Festival of Saturnalia (now known as the 12 days of Christmas). Isn't ancient history fun?
I always giggle every Spring when I see where Easter is on the calendar. You can go look this one up on Wikipedia... Easter is always the first Sunday following the first full moon following Vernal Equinox (Spring). Now how can you get more pagan than that? If "the event" had an actual date, don't you think we should use that specific date, and not the calculated pagan rites for planting crops? Now, I have a suggestion that we move further discussion to that other thread because there might be a few people here who don't want their faith trampled.that's what you are celebrating......(or Death)...
I KNEW you were waiting for us to get our 6 vids in...I just KNEW it ...Well, now that Tiggs and Katz have kicked out the jams, I think I'll be signing off. Good night, Treefam!
Well, now there you are conflating two things. "Ides" comes from the Roman calendar and refers to the middle-ish day of the month (13-15 depending on the month). Interestingly, March was the first month of the Roman calendar and the Ides were a time of worship and celebration--far from an unlucky time, unless you weren't favored of the gods. The "Egyptian Days" to which you refer to specific days in almost every month that were identified by ancient astrologers as being particularly unlucky. Every ancient culture had its own tradition (and specific days: A Greek poet is thought to be the source of the Friday the 13th superstition); oddly enough, the days now associated with "Egyptian Days" were defined mostly during the Middle Ages.Normally I would agree with you, but some really ancient book I read claimed the "Ides" is the first two weeks of the month, during which the troubles brew, culminating on the 15th when the action of that brewing most often takes place. In other cultures, these might also be called "Egyptian Days" with some reference to unrest and uneasiness amongst ancient peoples of that area. Today, however, we just call that "Spring Fever," which I always thought was strange when Spring doesn't start until closer to the end of the month, but back in the days when I had a decent income (AKA the good old days), it was always on or about the first week in March that I went out and bought a new car. Haven't done that in 18 years...![]()
Actually, according to Vatican records (which once were available, but they won't let you near them today), the personage known as Jesus (Yeshua bar Yoseph) was born on March 3, 4 BCE (whatever dates were used then being translated to the modern calendar) and the reason for The Church moving it to December 25th was merely to put their most important celebration (The Christ Mass) over the top of, and thereby smothering, the pagan celebration called The Festival of Saturnalia (now known as the 12 days of Christmas). Isn't ancient history fun?
Actually, you are both right. The Church had to fight the influence of many pagan beliefs. The Festival of Saturnalia was one such celebration at the time, but almost all pagan traditions celebrated the winter solstice in some form or fashion. Setting up Christmas delivered a killing blow in one fell swoop. As was pointed out already, Easter is the same thing--hijacking the celebrations of spring (does the rise of Persephone from the halls of Hades sound familiar?) held by many pagan cultures.Well there you go bursting my bubble...I thought they picked that day to take away from Yule(Winter Solstice).....because all the pagans were celebrating at that time...(same with Ostera) that they decided to steal it away by saying that it's our Christ's birthday....that's what you are celebrating......(or Death)......