Good luck but I only see that as a recipe that will return you to full time smoking. So why do it? If a patch or the gum ever worked for me I wouldn't be vaping.
going on the patch, cutting down vaping
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Good luck but I only see that as a recipe that will return you to full time smoking. So why do it? If a patch or the gum ever worked for me I wouldn't be vaping.
1 cig a month. smh
I smoked more then that before I got hooked on analogs. Back before my mom found out when I was a teenager I was smoking 1 a day. It would be at the end of the day to relieve stress. It was only after my mom was fine with it that I started to smoke more and got hooked. I smoked for 14 years. I was on cigalikes and analogs as of July. But in September I got my current set up and was able to kick analogs for good. Only had 1 smoke after that and that was 2 weeks later. A friend sent me some extra juices that were higher in nic to help me through them early cravings. The first month was about the worst. While I for the most part preferred and still prefer 18 mg nicotine, he sent me some that was 24 and 36 mg. These helped me a lot in that first couple of months. Especially when i would get really stressed and when i was really also jonesing for those extra chemicals. These days I mostly vape on 18 mg. Though I still got some of those juices left. I got a crap ton of Mount Bakers Extreme Ice 36 mg left. Though that one you can hardly tell is 36 mg. lol. It is one I tend to vape on a lot. Especially if I am going out to places where I am not going to be able to vape or not and need the extra nicotine. I hardly even touch my Maraschino Cherry anymore. Just because of the nic strength with it makes it a lot harder to vape on. When I smoked analogs I smoked anywhere usually from a half a pack to a pack a day. Now I do get vaping bothering your throat some. Especially when sick. I had to deal with that too. During those times I tried vaped only into the mouth. Also I usually stuck with more mintier flavors such as my Extreme Ice. At the time I had a lower nic of that one too though. So I used that some when I was sick. Also I found vaping with a cough drop in my mouth to help some. Now part of the problem could be on your sore throat issue though if that your vaping on too much nicotine. At one cig a month, I can't see you needing a lot of nicotine. Organic tobacco or not nicotine is nicotine. It just means you got less chemicals to deal with. A friend of mine dad smokes organic tobacco. Since your obviously getting a lot less nicotine in you then most of us, your likely just needing the occasional nicotine in you to help you relax. Or perhaps you use it as a pick me up. Regardless I'd suggest lowering your nic amount. It's likely the higher nic amounts that is causing your throat to hurt. I'd say try 12 mg or maybe even lower. I doubt your going to need 18 mg or higher. Hell some vapes at higher then 18 mg start to bother my throat some too. It's one of the reasons I don't vape on my cherry much anymore. 36 mg on most juices are just way too much for me. 24 mg on some is even too much. I do find fruit juices to irritate my throat more with nic higher then 18. Though menthol's tend to not do that to me as much so I can usually go a bit higher with them. The trick is finding what amount of nic is right for you. 12 nic might even be too high for you. But it is a good starting point to find what level nic is right for you. I personally am never going to give up the nic. I find 18 mg to usually be a comfortable amount. But for many people that amount is much lower. Especially when they were light smokers. For an occasional smoker you certainly won't need a high amount. I also think the patch isn't the answer for you. All vaping at high nic or using the patch for you might do at this point is get you hooked on nicotine. Sure your tolerance for it will get higher, but at what cost. If you ever decide to get off it all together you will just be making it much harder for yourself in the future.
I smoked more then that before I got hooked on analogs. Back before my mom found out when I was a teenager I was smoking 1 a day. It would be at the end of the day to relieve stress. It was only after my mom was fine with it that I started to smoke more and got hooked. I smoked for 14 years. I was on cigalikes and analogs as of July. But in September I got my current set up and was able to kick analogs for good. Only had 1 smoke after that and that was 2 weeks later. A friend sent me some extra juices that were higher in nic to help me through them early cravings. The first month was about the worst. While I for the most part preferred and still prefer 18 mg nicotine, he sent me some that was 24 and 36 mg. These helped me a lot in that first couple of months. Especially when i would get really stressed and when i was really also jonesing for those extra chemicals. These days I mostly vape on 18 mg. Though I still got some of those juices left. I got a crap ton of Mount Bakers Extreme Ice 36 mg left. Though that one you can hardly tell is 36 mg. lol. It is one I tend to vape on a lot. Especially if I am going out to places where I am not going to be able to vape or not and need the extra nicotine. I hardly even touch my Maraschino Cherry anymore. Just because of the nic strength with it makes it a lot harder to vape on. When I smoked analogs I smoked anywhere usually from a half a pack to a pack a day. Now I do get vaping bothering your throat some. Especially when sick. I had to deal with that too. During those times I tried vaped only into the mouth. Also I usually stuck with more mintier flavors such as my Extreme Ice. At the time I had a lower nic of that one too though. So I used that some when I was sick. Also I found vaping with a cough drop in my mouth to help some. Now part of the problem could be on your sore throat issue though if that your vaping on too much nicotine. At one cig a month, I can't see you needing a lot of nicotine. Organic tobacco or not nicotine is nicotine. It just means you got less chemicals to deal with. A friend of mine dad smokes organic tobacco. Since your obviously getting a lot less nicotine in you then most of us, your likely just needing the occasional nicotine in you to help you relax. Or perhaps you use it as a pick me up. Regardless I'd suggest lowering your nic amount. It's likely the higher nic amounts that is causing your throat to hurt. I'd say try 12 mg or maybe even lower. I doubt your going to need 18 mg or higher. Hell some vapes at higher then 18 mg start to bother my throat some too. It's one of the reasons I don't vape on my cherry much anymore. 36 mg on most juices are just way too much for me. 24 mg on some is even too much. I do find fruit juices to irritate my throat more with nic higher then 18. Though menthol's tend to not do that to me as much so I can usually go a bit higher with them. The trick is finding what amount of nic is right for you. 12 nic might even be too high for you. But it is a good starting point to find what level nic is right for you. I personally am never going to give up the nic. I find 18 mg to usually be a comfortable amount. But for many people that amount is much lower. Especially when they were light smokers. For an occasional smoker you certainly won't need a high amount. I also think the patch isn't the answer for you. All vaping at high nic or using the patch for you might do at this point is get you hooked on nicotine. Sure your tolerance for it will get higher, but at what cost. If you ever decide to get off it all together you will just be making it much harder for yourself in the future.
Good ole will power...
Somehow coming here to tell everyone your going to vape less, still smoke occasionally and also start wearing nicotine patches seems... off. Why you would even discuss putting nicotine concentrate on your skin is reckless and NOT good advice for anyone. I can calculate a dopamine drip after making a 1600mcg per ml concentration in a 1000ml IV bag and deliver a weight based dose by counting the drips in a 60drop iv drip set....( Being off by even a little could kill a patient ) I would never attempt rubbing liquid nicotine on my skin nor would I ever suggest that i could be done. The rate of absorbtion is not the same as a nicotine patch. Its just stupid. Do you know anything about pharmacology at all?
I dunno you bored bro? Are you thoroughly entertained by the outpouring of whatever?? I dont know if your looking for support, attention or what? This forum is pretty much geared toward vape enthusiasts. If your struggling with cigarettes this is the place to come for support. Looking for advice on vape gear or DIY, hey this is the place.
I dont care if you smoke, chew nicorette or use chantix as a suppository. This is not the place to discuss DIY laboratory experiments.
Flame me and say whatever you want but what you are discussing could potentially poison someone. I cant believe you havent been shut down already. Im sure a Moderator will be along any moment now.
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not clear enough?:
" just to make clear, although you can easily take liquid nicotine concentrate meant for vaping and figure out how many mg is per ml, I don't recommend anyone go trying to rub that into their skin to absorb like the patch. The patch might have a slow release agent or something and unlike vaping where you would have a warning sign after each puff it you're taking too much nicotine, by rubbing it into your skin, it would be too late if you applied too much. Nicotine is easily absorbed through skin."
I just posted about patches to bring to attention to others that vaping might catch up with you. Also, FYI, I'm not going to turn into a full time smoker. I've had occasional cigarettes throughout vaping the past 2 years. I don't even vape that much, maybe 30ml per week and a half at 10mg with low % of flavor and %100 VG usually but it can catch up. Some vapers hear the word cigarette and take a pedestal, meanwhile they're probably chain vaping big clouds like it's fresh mountain air or something.
I dont care if you smoke, chew nicorette or use chantix as a suppository. This is not the place to discuss DIY laboratory experiments.
"Nov 21, 2013 - In the last five years, 544 suicides and 1,869 attempted suicides have been reported to the FDA as “adverse events” in connection with Chantix"
If you really care about protecting people from nicotine absorption, make your signature: "don't fall asleep with a bottle of e juice in your pocket because it can leak and kill you while you sleep."
not clear enough?:
" just to make clear, although you can easily take liquid nicotine concentrate meant for vaping and figure out how many mg is per ml, I don't recommend anyone go trying to rub that into their skin to absorb like the patch. The patch might have a slow release agent or something and unlike vaping where you would have a warning sign after each puff it you're taking too much nicotine, by rubbing it into your skin, it would be too late if you applied too much. Nicotine is easily absorbed through skin."
I just posted about patches to bring to attention to others that vaping might catch up with you. Also, FYI, I'm not going to turn into a full time smoker. I've had occasional cigarettes throughout vaping the past 2 years. I don't even vape that much, maybe 30ml per week and a half at 10mg with low % of flavor and %100 VG usually but it can catch up. Some vapers hear the word cigarette and take a pedestal, meanwhile they're probably chain vaping big clouds like it's fresh mountain air or something.
I dont care if you smoke, chew nicorette or use chantix as a suppository. This is not the place to discuss DIY laboratory experiments.
"Nov 21, 2013 - In the last five years, 544 suicides and 1,869 attempted suicides have been reported to the FDA as “adverse events” in connection with Chantix"
If you really care about protecting people from nicotine absorption, make your signature: "don't fall asleep with a bottle of e juice in your pocket because it can leak and kill you while you sleep."
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good luck with patch. i don't think 1 cig a month is smoking.. or needs any specific device to "quit". i mean.. if you can go 30 days without smoke.. what's stopping you from going another 30 days without it? when i quit smoking, i was down to 10-20 cig a day, depends on the stress level. i tried patch, gum and other stuff. didn't work for me. vaping worked since it's so similar to smoking it's almost like not quitting. but it cuts out all the bad stuff cig has. i'm sure there are some issue with vaping that we are not aware of.. but who wants to live forever?
I have no idea why you would spend the money on a patch to cut down on one cigarette per month and your daily vaping. I would guess that once you stop the patches you will be right back to smoking. I would recommend lowering the nicotine level in your e-liquid over time. Over time you will wean yourself down to zero or close to zero nicotine. Regardless, good luck!
I agree with you completely on this. In this situation a Patch is a waste of money. It is completely unneeded.
patch didn't agree with me either.
I stopped vaping during the day mostly just keep it at home in evening..... and use the nicotine lozenges during the day, which work good for me, since I can control my dosage.
Hi Veganvap,
Hope it works for you. I've been thinking about doing the same. Let us know if it works for you. Best, Ginger
Hope it works for you. I've been thinking about doing the same. Let us know if it works for you. Best, Ginger
Also the patch is designed to be used for a limited period of time, tapering down to zero after a few weeks or months as I recall. The idea being that by the time you finish the treatment you've got past the withdrawal part of quiting cigarettes. I know people that has worked for, but more who it hasn't worked for. It worked for me once, but not for long after I finished the patch cycle.
They don't advise using the patch long term. There may be good reasons why not, I don't know.
Vaping is more like a less harmful alternative to smoking than a short term strategy to quit smoking.
Here's the reality of the situation, myself included. It takes 3 days to get nicotine out of your system. That's the easy part. Prepare after that for another 19 days of mental trauma and agony. The best way to get through those 19 days is to be dropped off in the middle of the Amazon and walk your way out. You'll be so focused on your survival, nicotine will be the least of your worries. The reason I vape, and I think this is most of the people is that I do not want to put in my 21 days. I can't handle mental agony, that is the time it takes to re-wire your brain as a non smoker / nicotine user. Vaping is the lesser of two evils and if you can handle the patch, good for you. I put on a 21mg patch, ONCE, and I thought I was going to die.
This is a Radically unsubstantiated statement.
Simply put People start out with a Pot Luck, Friend Recommended e-liquid or a Cig-a-like in the majority of instances. Read around a bit.
Common starting points for refillable devices is 18/24mg with 36 on the HIGH SIDE Many on ECF report dropping to 12mg within a reasonably short time frame.
Wish you the best in your attempt - But I do suggest trying your best to Drop the Cig. Nic is Nic and you don't need all the bad that comes with the cigarette.
This is a great post. Pretty sums up how I feel about nicotine addiction and quitting. I quit cigarettes once a few years ago cold turkey, and couldn't leave my house or my recliner for the first two days. After that I felt like I was in a constant state of worry. Lol. Thank god for vaping.
I agree.
But so is this:
I made several friends who were on this board, who are now long gone, and have not returned to smoking or vaping.
They precisely used vaping as a short term strategy to quit smoking.
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