Got told not to vape at Denny's.

[Virtues]

If you don't want to get into serious trouble and get hit with a bunch of fines, I'd suggest you read your pamphlet next time you get on a plane.

I have read of lots of people using these on airplanes and you are the only person that seems to have the opposite opinion on this. There are 4 Airlines that have listed these as a no-no and 3 of them are based in Europe. Continental is the only one in the USA that has taken any stance on this.

I like how you ignore the fact that it is allowed in hospitals though. Nice job picking and choosing what propagates your biased fears.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/travel-e-cig/728-e-smoking-airplane.html
So are you trolling or just sadly misinformed?

 

[Blech]

I have read of lots of people using these on airplanes and you are the only person that seems to have the opposite opinion on this. There are 4 Airlines that have listed these as a no-no and 3 of them are based in Europe. Continental is the only one in the USA that has taken any stance on this.

I like how you ignore the fact that it is allowed in hospitals though. Nice job picking and choosing what propagates your biased fears.

... and American Airlines. They actually have it listed in the approved/unapproved electronic equipment section in the American Way mag...

 

[Virtues]

... and American Airlines. They actually have it listed in the approved/unapproved electronic equipment section in the American Way mag...

Thanks, this info is constantly changing though so it is always wise to check the list before traveling. I usually fly United.

 

[the_antisheep]

I have read of lots of people using these on airplanes and you are the only person that seems to have the opposite opinion on this. There are 4 Airlines that have listed these as a no-no and 3 of them are based in Europe. Continental is the only one in the USA that has taken any stance on this.

I like how you ignore the fact that it is allowed in hospitals though. Nice job picking and choosing what propagates your biased fears.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/travel-e-cig/728-e-smoking-airplane.html
So are you trolling or just sadly misinformed?

I just flew a week ago. It helps when you actually fly.

And anecdotal evidence of someone who got away with it in a hospital? It is not EXPRESSLY permitted in hospitals. A hospital just happened to allow it.

Trolling? I'm a vaper, just not a ridiculous in your face, get my .... dragged out of a shopping mall kind of idiot. I'm in the courteous community crowd

 

[Virtues]

So you didn't bother to read the thread in this very forum where countless people have vaped on airplanes?

 

[the_antisheep]

... and American Airlines. They actually have it listed in the approved/unapproved electronic equipment section in the American Way mag...

And Southwest, and...

 

[the_antisheep]

So you didn't bother to read the thread in this very forum where countless people have vaped on airplanes?

No I read the FRICKEN RULES in the pamphlet. Anecdotal evidence isn't as valuable as the people's rulings who can actually kick you off the aircraft or put you on the no-fly list.

 

[Virtues]

No I read the FRICKEN RULES in the pamphlet. Anecdotal evidence isn't as valuable as the people's rulings who can actually kick you off the aircraft or put you on the no-fly list.

Ok I'm done with your trolling. Have fun bothering someone else.

 

[the_antisheep]

Ok I'm done with your trolling. Have fun bothering someone else.

Truth sucks when you're trying to make a point that's baseless or anecdotal, eh?

I guess telling the TRUTH is trolling in your book?

Edit: I get it... This is you, isn't it? http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarettes-public/99922-ignorant-1.html .. hence the defense for "smokie?"

 

[StephLK]

I'm not talking about just a smell. I'm talking about vapor plumes that can waft over.

I've never sat so close to someone in a restaurant that I could smell their perfume. Not even in the cramped places in NYC's theater district.

I was replying to your thread that said:

I don't feel like it's a "not ok to use it here" because of the vapor but rather, the smell of the flavorings.

You see where I would have gotten confused, since now you are talking about the vapor and not the smell, where before you were not talking about the vapor, but rather the smell.

I have been in public places where men and/or women around me were wearing WAY too much cologne or perfume. I'm surprised you haven't. My point is that just because I don't like the smell, doesn't mean I have the right to ask them to change it.

But that's when I thought when you said you were talking about smell, you were actually talking about smell.

I do realize that there are other factors that play into whether or not you should vape in public non-smoking areas than the smell. I was just focusing on the point at hand (or trying to).

 

[StephLK]

....We need to respect others that are not informed on ecigs....

I still don't understand why 'respect' means 'not informing' or coddling an incorrect perception.

I'm not of the opinion (like a few seem to be) that I should be able to vape anywhere I please and who cares if the owner or people around me don't like it. But taking the extreme other side and never vaping except in designated smoking areas is wrong too.

Vaping is not smoking. If we treat it like it is, how is anyone ever supposed to learn the difference?

 

[JustKryssi]

I was replying to your thread that said:


You see where I would have gotten confused, since now you are talking about the vapor and not the smell, where before you were not talking about the vapor, but rather the smell.

I have been in public places where men and/or women around me were wearing WAY too much cologne or perfume. I'm surprised you haven't. My point is that just because I don't like the smell, doesn't mean I have the right to ask them to change it.

But that's when I thought when you said you were talking about smell, you were actually talking about smell.

I do realize that there are other factors that play into whether or not you should vape in public non-smoking areas than the smell. I was just focusing on the point at hand (or trying to).

I believe what I said was "not JUST the smell". The fact that the "smell" in the form of "vapor" will waft over. Not just a stationary smell...if that makes sense, lol!

 

[Virtues]

Vaping is not smoking. If we treat it like it is, how is anyone ever supposed to learn the difference?

This 100 times. I also agree about respecting people's wishes if they are afraid and uneducated.

For the record I am a 25 year old woman, not that old fat man referenced from that video. Just because I defended someone I suddenly am that person? Troll harder.

 

[Xenite]

To be honest I don't understand why people act shocked to be told not to do it in restaurants or other public places. It's not smoking, we here all know this but the vast public does not.

Most people have no idea what an e-cig is or how they work. And some people in this world just live to be aholes to smokers. I just don't get the mentality of taking an e-cig into a place that you know does not allow smoking, you are just ASKING to be hassled.

Not only that, even if I understood them, I understand the reasons to still not allow them. Who want's to deal with other customers constantly complaining about the person over there smoking, even though they are only vaping.

Even as a smoker of 15 years, I've never once been anywhere where I couldn't not wait to smoke. Save the hassle, eat your food, pay your bill then vape all you want after you leave, simple really.

Nothing worse then people who vape, like the guy in the gas station video just TRYING to get someone to tell him he can't use it there. These types are no better then the hard core anti smokers.

 

[PaulB]

The OP lacks some detail, but generally, I agree with those who mention the discretion issue? Without saying it's right or wrong, I can visualize people being distracted or disconcerted by (and, most important, complain about) the sight of somebody across the room using some gigantic, unfamiliar looking device that produces enough vapor to make a Cheech & Chong movie. How many of these incidents are avoided by more demure hardware and vaping style, less pungent (perhaps unflavored) juices?

 

[Luisa]

So, here I am, enjoying my dinner at Denny's here on Dale Mabry at Spruce in Tampa, vaping with my USB Passthrough -- and the MANAGER comes up and says, "There's no smoking in the restaurant."

I say, "It's not smoke."

He says, "Well, I can smell it, so you must be smoking something."

I'm not going to argue the point because I don't want to get thrown out before I finish my food.

But what's the deal? Is this guy just being a weenus by alienating, literally, one of TWO paying customers in his WHOLE RESTAURANT, over the SMELL of clove, or is it discrimination? I mean seriously, if it was a restaurant full of people, I could understand this, but I guess business is so good that we can annoy paying customers willy-nilly, hmm?

He claims it's smoking.

And that's not the first time I've experienced this. I've had one other person tell me that vaping is smoking under the Florida Clean Indoor Air Act.

Guess I get to start looking up statutes.

Way to go, Denny's: Can't say I'll never eat here again, but I'm definitely going to start looking for someplace else to eat after hours...it's not like you even have WiFi or anything.

Edited to add: Guess as an interim manager, you don't have to care about alienating your customer base because you'll be going to another restaurant.

Looks like some phone calls are in order.

I know, it's HIS store, he can decide what goes on in it. -- No, it's not. He's an interim manager.

But pissing off customers over THIS?

Any thoughts?

2x

Leave it alone--we surely do not need bad publicity now. We have the prospect of a ban on ecigs in the very near future. Please,we don"t anything to add fire to the problem.The guy is in charge,respect that.

 

[CarolinaGirl]

Hubby and I just returned from dinner tonight and our experience was the opposite of yours. While waiting for the check, I took out my ecig (not my Ego, the one that looks like a cig) and was holding it between my index and third finger (you know the position.) The waitor comes to deliver the check; looks, and then looks again and sees the LED at the end. He asks what it is. I explain and he asks for a demonstration. He brings over some coworkers and asks for another demonstration.

In the meantime he asks me if I quit using this "thing." I advised him that I had. By this time, the whole section of the restaurant is looking. When I told him that I had quit, I got a standing ovation by staff and a few customers; and requests for more demos.

Donna, that is great! I've done that a couple of times. Mostly I just wait until I'm not in public. Some of the anti-smokers are so rabid that I just want to avoid dealing with them.

 

[Jimmyfish]

What about a person covered heavily in cheap cologne or perfume? I've smelled some that gave me a headache or close to barfing.

Nowhere near as bad as vaping some of that chinese made junk!!