Gotvapes Pump cart review....these things are SICK!

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I know how to use the fluxo's perfectly. And IMO they have no flavor along with every other CE2!! And it's not like a stand alone....there are TONS AND TONS of people who agree. So the fact that there are tons of people who agree, and you dismiss it so quickly kind of shows a little closed mindedness IMO! I have used every tip and trick out there involving CE2's, including buying larger tanks, fluffing wicks, loosening the rubber piece, etc etc! So I "Learned" how to use them just fine. If you disagree, then I'm happy for you that you love CE2's so much, but that doesn't mean other's didn't "LEARN" how to use them. If I got a dollar for everytime I heard CE2's have "MUTED" flavor I would be a vaping millionairre. So clearly there is something to it! But again, I'm glad you enjoy the flavor.... Also....my "excitement" over the carts having nothing to do with CE2's, I am very capable of enjoying more then one method of vaping, and I have TOTES worth of gear to show it!

I love both. I support neither side of this arguement but would like to note that flavor is an opinion, not a fact. I do not condone criticizm on someone's opinion. I found awesome flavor out of the ce2s. that doesn't mean someone didn't agree with me that I would say that they don't know what they are talking about. you both gave your opinions on the ce2s, which is ok, but it started to turn a little personal and I do not agree with that. you both are experienced vapers and I really hope we all can respect each other's differences.

On a happier note...HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!
 

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I'm just going to put this out there about the pump carts, I first tried them and they tasted bad to me, I then tried them with a different Atty and they worked fine. With that being said, I use mostly Iken Atty's and these Atty's have a raised internal bridge compared to say a Joy, Eastmall, Cisco and many others, The Ikenvape Bridge is just a bit higher and it hits the silicone bottom of the pump cart when you push it into the Atty and gives off a funny taste when the Atty is on and the Bridge is burning up against the silicone . So the lower bridge Attys seem to work quite well with these pump carts in my findings, if you are using an Iken Atty with these swap it out and you will be fine. Again just my findings after using these pump carts and testing about 5 different Atty's with them.
 

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I'm just going to put this out there about the pump carts, I first tried them and they tasted bad to me, I then tried them with a different Atty and they worked fine. With that being said, I use mostly Iken Atty's and these Atty's have a raised internal bridge compared to say a Joy, Eastmall, Cisco and many others, The Ikenvape Bridge is just a bit higher and it hits the silicone bottom of the pump cart when you push it into the Atty and gives off a funny taste when the Atty is on and the Bridge is burning up against the silicone . So the lower bridge Attys seem to work quite well with these pump carts in my findings, if you are using an Iken Atty with these swap it out and you will be fine. Again just my findings after using these pump carts and testing about 5 different Atty's with them.

thats why I thought I had to de-bridge my atty for the pump cart to work. chris said some bridgeless attys would come in a little bit.
 

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I'm just going to put this out there about the pump carts, I first tried them and they tasted bad to me, I then tried them with a different Atty and they worked fine. With that being said, I use mostly Iken Atty's and these Atty's have a raised internal bridge compared to say a Joy, Eastmall, Cisco and many others, The Ikenvape Bridge is just a bit higher and it hits the silicone bottom of the pump cart when you push it into the Atty and gives off a funny taste when the Atty is on and the Bridge is burning up against the silicone . So the lower bridge Attys seem to work quite well with these pump carts in my findings, if you are using an Iken Atty with these swap it out and you will be fine. Again just my findings after using these pump carts and testing about 5 different Atty's with them.

If you use atties with the higher bridges here are a couple of fixes.

1. It might work to simply push the plug deeper up into pump-cart. Depends on the size and position of the bridge really.
2. Remove the silicon plug and grind a few mm off the bottom of the pump cart (use sandpaper, file, grinding rock).
3. If the atty bridge is rounded up to the high point, flatten it by pushing a tool to the highest point of the bridge.
 
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If you use atties with the higher bridges here are a couple of fixes.

1. It might work to simply push the plug deeper up into pump-cart. Depends on the size and position of the bridge really.
2. Remove the silicon plug and grind a few mm off the bottom of the pump cart (use sandpaper, file, grinding rock).
3. If the bridge is rounded up to the high point, flatten it by pushing a tool to the highest point of the bridge.

Bro I have to much great vaping gear to have to do all that modding for a simple cart and I wouldn't ruin or mess with an Atty to make this work, I say to ONLY USE THE CORRECT ATTY'S THAT WORK WITH THESE INSTEAD. which most of them will from my findings, its only the Iken 510 because of its raised internals and the bridge comes up higher and that's why you get the plastic taste, it's much easier to just use a different Atty like a Eastmall, Joy, or Cisco and then these work fine.
 

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we need a 306 to 510 drip tip adapter, there is one seller that sells those, i lost his link becuase he wont ship INT.
with 306 to 510 drip tip adapter we could use pump cart on 306 and its vaping heaven, nothing beats LR306

I believe digitalciggz sells that adapter !
 

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Bro I have to much great vaping gear to have to do all that modding for a simple cart and I wouldn't ruin or mess with an Atty to make this work, I say to ONLY USE THE CORRECT ATTY'S THAT WORK WITH THESE INSTEAD. which most of them will from my findings, its only the Iken 510 because of its raised internals and the bridge comes up higher and that's why you get the plastic taste, it's much easier to just use a different Atty like a Eastmall, Joy, or Cisco and then these work fine.

Only one tip suggested altering the atty as a last resort.
One of them requires NO TOOLS at all...just push the plug into the cart further....
The other takes less than 10 seconds.

You might have other atties, but someone else browsing the thread might only have Inkens or something else with a high bridge.
One of my SmokTech atties acts as you described with your Inkens. I just pushed the cart plug in further....
 

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yes the fact that not all atomizers are the same makes it a tad difficult. also they work on 306 and 901 attys as well.

a lower bridge or bridgeless are best for the pumpcart, once you get them working they are great and unlike the smart cart or lucid it seems that these things are working well for many out in the wild.

so good times ahead.

plus, the pumpcart is built rather well and tough, gotta give credit to that. no juice issues or cracking issues.
 

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Hey, I didn't really want to cause a "dust up" here but I'm still amazed that you aren't getting any flavor from the ce2s - have you tried removing all the silicone including the filler ring around the cup and just filling by dripping instead of using a syringe? - better wicking action in my experience - comparison, flavor wise, was between Boge cartos and dual coils @ 6v - the ce2s @ 3.7 were as good as and better than these, with the same juices - I know there are ce2 haters out there but you had to have seen some of the TONS of posts and videos in praise of these - the early probs with cracks and leaks have been solved with the new thicker tubes and the steel versions have never leaked - I really like the 3.6ohm fluxos @ 6v but think they might vape a little cooler at 5 - gotta gets me a Pro-Vari - anyway...do like attys, just hate dripping - will chime in after my pumps arrive - great video and will use as a guideline - Thanks
I know how to use the fluxo's perfectly. And IMO they have no flavor along with every other CE2!! And it's not like a stand alone....there are TONS AND TONS of people who agree. So the fact that there are tons of people who agree, and you dismiss it so quickly kind of shows a little closed mindedness IMO! I have used every tip and trick out there involving CE2's, including buying larger tanks, fluffing wicks, loosening the rubber piece, etc etc! So I "Learned" how to use them just fine. If you disagree, then I'm happy for you that you love CE2's so much, but that doesn't mean other's didn't "LEARN" how to use them. If I got a dollar for everytime I heard CE2's have "MUTED" flavor I would be a vaping millionairre. So clearly there is something to it! But again, I'm glad you enjoy the flavor.... Also....my "excitement" over the carts having nothing to do with CE2's, I am very capable of enjoying more then one method of vaping, and I have TOTES worth of gear to show it!
 

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Condom cap is a good idea...we'll ask about possibility of gettign those...

Just got a box...
On my first one now with Darwin and GotVapes HV atty.
Also using an Empire Drip Shield.
First impression...very nice vape :)

Only gripe so far is that I wish they came with some kind of condom or cap for filling a hand full and taking them on the go. I probably have plenty of stuff to make my own cap of some type, but it'd be nice if they came with some.

Later I'll go through my stash and see what condoms and caps fit the best and post back here.
 

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OK, I have a question....

Don't know if it has been asked before, sorry if it has....

How deep do they fit into the Atty?....
I'm hoping they will work on a Carto to keep it wet....

What do you think?

They do go pretty deep.
I'd say very close to what standard atty cartridges are.

So far every atty i have tried will work without modding anything major. In some cases I just need to push the little silicon plug in a little 'deeper' and align things so that the bridge has space in the cart.

It won't hurt to try with cartos. It would make for a awfully long air channel...so be ready for some cool vape.

They do drip dead center....so it might send the drops right down the center tube...which might be just grand with horizontal coil cartos.

I'll give it a try with a SmokTech dualie (vertical coils) since I have one here juiced and ready and report back.
 
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They do go pretty deep.
I'd say very close to what standard atty cartridges are.

So far every atty i have tried will work without modding anything major. In some cases I just need to push the little silicon plug in a little 'deeper' and align things so that the bridge has space in the cart.

It won't hurt to try with cartos. It would make for a awfully long air channel...so be ready for some cool vape.

They do drip dead center....so it might send the drops right down the center tube...which might be just grand with horizontal coil cartos.
I'll give it a try with a SmokTech dualie and report back.

OK, they fit the SmokTech cartos fine and it seems the drips go into the cartomizer batting ok (at least on this carto...the tube isn't perfectly centered in this one). The draw is twice as tight now, and the vape is cooler, and TH drops somewhat as would be expected adding this much distance from the atty. On the plus side, the flavor is amazing this way.

Just my opinion with only a few minutes of trying. With regular sized dualies...I don't think it's worth the trouble for what these pump carts hold. A regular sized dualie can burn up as much juice as one of these will hold in just a few draws....so keep your bottle with you and top them :)

I'll try it with single horizontal coil 808 cartos later...those aren't quite as long, are far more efficient on juice consumption, and carrying an extra ml or so of juice on the end might be well worth it with these.

To me...with atties...these are really nice. Particularly if you have liquids that you'd like to vape on regular atties when driving or moving about on foot. Dripping while driving, riding, or walking can be rather difficult, but one of these pump carts solves that! Also great if you'd like to pack a quick cart to take on the go and leave the dripping bottle for a couple of hours. I.E. Hopping in the hot tub with a drink and your favorite vape at hand. I can still see myself dripping as much as I'd use these (just sitting around watching TV and such), but anyone who loves vaping on 510 or 901 atomizers should pick up a few of these. Bad says they work with a 306 as well, but I don't have any try it on with me at present.
 
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Ok, my review of the pumpcart is live here GotVapes Pump Cart: Impressions I wasn't as fond of them as the other folks here. In fact I'm starting to question my own sanity since so many people do love them. But, I gotta go with it :) Full text below, formatting and pretty pictures at the link above.


If you're the type who laments not being able to drip eliquid directly into your electronic cigarette while you drive, the Got Vapes Pump Cart might just be up your alley. The Pump Cart is essentially a tank cartridge with a mechanical push button used to force juice out the opening and into the atomizer on demand.

Design
Unlike traditional tank setups, the Pump Cart can be used on just about any 510 atomizer. The Pump replicates the action of dripping by dropping eliquid into the atomizer one drop at a time. This also means that unlike many tanks, there is no muting of flavor in the vapor the experience is very close to traditional dripping.


The button
When I initially saw the Pump Cart online, I had some reservations about the quality of the push button. Once I got the unit in my hands, my concerns were alleviated. While the top of the button is plastic, the whole assembly is very solid, I don't feel like the button will break or fall off.

Size-wise, the pump cart is definitely longer than a drip tip, and slightly longer than a common atomizer cartridge. If you are sensitive to the length of your e-cigarette this might be a consideration (although the existence of the button would likely also be a concern because it throws off the cigarette look considerably)

The cartridge itself is a smokey grey color which allows you to see how much juice you have in there (if you hold it up to the light, the cartridge is fairly dark). The rated capacity of the Pump Cart is 1.5ml. The atomizer end of the cart has a silicone cap with a hole in the middle. Inside the hole is a small piece of polyfill batting to keep the liquid from free flowing out the cartridge. To fill, simply remove the silicone cap and add your juice.

How it works
So the idea is this: You prime the Pump Cart to get the batting wet and drip your first initial drops into the atomizer. Then you merrily vape away, pausing every once in a while to press the button a few times to drip some more juice into the atomizer just like you would when using a bottle. The GotVapes site offers the following instructions for use:
The PumpCart employs the use of a small plastic and easy to press button on the side which accelerates the eJuice through the batting that feeds your atomizer. Simply remove the top cap and fill with up to 1.5ml of eJuice then, primer pump the button 8-10 times or until you see a droplet or two of juice escaping the batting filler at the bottom. Insert the PumpCart on your atomizer and vape! When you start to sense any dry hits simply press the botton on the side a few more times (holding down for a second each time) to help re-feed fluid into your atomizer. Another user adds (see video below) that he has had success priming the atomizer with doing a button press a few times while doign [sic] a dry draw. --Video mentioned in the quote is not on this site, watch it here -Steve K
My Experience
First of all, I'm not a consistant dripper, so I was never good at judging at when and how much to drip. That being said, I had a bit of a struggle trying to find my groove with this little device. I tested it with both regular 510 atomizers and de-bridged models (a generic 510 and the Dripping Atomizer from SmartVapes). One issue I kept running into was when doing the dry draw method, I would occasionally knock that little ball of polyfill loose. When that happens, juice just free flows into the atomizer, which is not a good thing.


End cap and polyfill removed
I posted on the Got Vapes subforum on ECF about the issue, and it seems nobody has that issue, or really many other issues at all. I'm not sure if I'm just uncoordinated, got a bad couple of carts or what. About the third try I got them to work better. I still found myself way over dripping and blowing through juice quite quickly. This subsides with time, and once I got the coordination down, the experience really was analog to dropping juice down a drip tip with a bottle.

There are a couple of things adding this cart to your atomizer will do that may or may not matter. First, the cart's length means that the vapor is going to be slightly cooler than if you were using a drip tip. Second, adding a second button to your electronic cigarette could feel a little bit strange (that feeling subsides quickly). The cart also is a tight fit in some atomizers, there were a couple I could not get the Pump to fit completely flush. At least it won't fall off accidentally.

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The Got Vapes Pump Cart solution is a cartridge that fits in standard 510 atomizers and drip feeds juice directly to the atomizer. If you are a regular dripper who is looking for a little more convenience in your life, this may be a great solution. Adding the cart does add a slight bit of complexity to the routine, though no more so than having to fiddle with a juice bottle to drip. For me, personally, I don't think this device will singlehandedly convert me to an atomizer guy.

Pros:

Provides a hands-free way to direct drip
Holds 1.5ml of eliquid
Solid construction
Semi-transparent for juice level viewing
Cons:
Additional length can cool vapor slightly
Button may be awkward for some users
Tight fit with some cartomizers
Finding the perfect method of use may require some trial and error
Details:
Product: Pump Cart Solution
Sold By: GotVapes
Fitting: 510 atomizers
Price: $7.95 (5 pack)
 

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Received a nice through review of the PumpCart today at GotVapes.com, thought I'd share it here:

Brian Roland


"Review Details: I have a few liquids that only come alive with direct
dripping on a good old fashioned 901 or 510 atomizer. Finally, here is a
cart that I can load such flavors into and not loose the flavor! These are
great for driving and other situations where you just don't have enough
hands to be bothered with dripping from a bottle.

These work as advertised. Fill them with liquid, pump, and it drips down
into the atomizer. Is it easier than 'dripping' through a drip tip with a
bottle? Yes and no. When I'm sitting around watching TV or whatever, and
having an open bottle of juice is not a problem...might as well drip, BUT, I
love these when driving, or if I just want to be away from a bottle of juice
for a couple of hours. Just pump the cart and it drips.

Not very difficult to fill...you pull out a plug, drip in the juice, and
push the plug back in.

I've run several ml of liquid 3 of these over a period of 2 weeks and they
still work as good as new. Tested with high PH liquids like Tasty Vapor
Atomic Cinnamon and no signs of degradation or plastic flavor seepage. Tried
with both 510 and 901 atties...a fine vape!"



Thanks to Brian for the through review...
 
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