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Excellent excellent review Steve...
Ok, my review of the pumpcart is live here GotVapes Pump Cart: Impressions I wasn't as fond of them as the other folks here. In fact I'm starting to question my own sanity since so many people do love them. But, I gotta go with itFull text below, formatting and pretty pictures at the link above.
If you're the type who laments not being able to drip eliquid directly into your electronic cigarette while you drive, the Got Vapes Pump Cart might just be up your alley. The Pump Cart is essentially a tank cartridge with a mechanical push button used to force juice out the opening and into the atomizer on demand.
Design
Unlike traditional tank setups, the Pump Cart can be used on just about any 510 atomizer. The Pump replicates the action of dripping by dropping eliquid into the atomizer one drop at a time. This also means that unlike many tanks, there is no muting of flavor in the vapor the experience is very close to traditional dripping.
The button
When I initially saw the Pump Cart online, I had some reservations about the quality of the push button. Once I got the unit in my hands, my concerns were alleviated. While the top of the button is plastic, the whole assembly is very solid, I don't feel like the button will break or fall off.
Size-wise, the pump cart is definitely longer than a drip tip, and slightly longer than a common atomizer cartridge. If you are sensitive to the length of your e-cigarette this might be a consideration (although the existence of the button would likely also be a concern because it throws off the cigarette look considerably)
The cartridge itself is a smokey grey color which allows you to see how much juice you have in there (if you hold it up to the light, the cartridge is fairly dark). The rated capacity of the Pump Cart is 1.5ml. The atomizer end of the cart has a silicone cap with a hole in the middle. Inside the hole is a small piece of polyfill batting to keep the liquid from free flowing out the cartridge. To fill, simply remove the silicone cap and add your juice.
How it works
So the idea is this: You prime the Pump Cart to get the batting wet and drip your first initial drops into the atomizer. Then you merrily vape away, pausing every once in a while to press the button a few times to drip some more juice into the atomizer just like you would when using a bottle. The GotVapes site offers the following instructions for use:
The PumpCart employs the use of a small plastic and easy to press button on the side which accelerates the eJuice through the batting that feeds your atomizer. Simply remove the top cap and fill with up to 1.5ml of eJuice then, primer pump the button 8-10 times or until you see a droplet or two of juice escaping the batting filler at the bottom. Insert the PumpCart on your atomizer and vape! When you start to sense any dry hits simply press the botton on the side a few more times (holding down for a second each time) to help re-feed fluid into your atomizer. Another user adds (see video below) that he has had success priming the atomizer with doing a button press a few times while doign [sic] a dry draw. --Video mentioned in the quote is not on this site, watch it here -Steve K
My Experience
First of all, I'm not a consistant dripper, so I was never good at judging at when and how much to drip. That being said, I had a bit of a struggle trying to find my groove with this little device. I tested it with both regular 510 atomizers and de-bridged models (a generic 510 and the Dripping Atomizer from SmartVapes). One issue I kept running into was when doing the dry draw method, I would occasionally knock that little ball of polyfill loose. When that happens, juice just free flows into the atomizer, which is not a good thing.
End cap and polyfill removed
I posted on the Got Vapes subforum on ECF about the issue, and it seems nobody has that issue, or really many other issues at all. I'm not sure if I'm just uncoordinated, got a bad couple of carts or what. About the third try I got them to work better. I still found myself way over dripping and blowing through juice quite quickly. This subsides with time, and once I got the coordination down, the experience really was analog to dropping juice down a drip tip with a bottle.
There are a couple of things adding this cart to your atomizer will do that may or may not matter. First, the cart's length means that the vapor is going to be slightly cooler than if you were using a drip tip. Second, adding a second button to your electronic cigarette could feel a little bit strange (that feeling subsides quickly). The cart also is a tight fit in some atomizers, there were a couple I could not get the Pump to fit completely flush. At least it won't fall off accidentally.
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The Got Vapes Pump Cart solution is a cartridge that fits in standard 510 atomizers and drip feeds juice directly to the atomizer. If you are a regular dripper who is looking for a little more convenience in your life, this may be a great solution. Adding the cart does add a slight bit of complexity to the routine, though no more so than having to fiddle with a juice bottle to drip. For me, personally, I don't think this device will singlehandedly convert me to an atomizer guy.
Pros:
Provides a hands-free way to direct drip
Holds 1.5ml of eliquid
Solid construction
Semi-transparent for juice level viewing
Cons:
Additional length can cool vapor slightly
Button may be awkward for some users
Tight fit with some cartomizers
Finding the perfect method of use may require some trial and error
Details:
Product: Pump Cart Solution
Sold By: GotVapes
Fitting: 510 atomizers
Price: $7.95 (5 pack)
Glad you liked it, even though the pump carts weren't really my thing (though I appear alone in that opinion)
Glad you liked it, even though the pump carts weren't really my thing (though I appear alone in that opinion)
I doubt you'll be all alone.
I have two really nice flavors that are highly acidic that just don't work well unless dripped on an atty (they cling to the wicks of a CE2, eat the sleeves of a Vortex/G4, and anything that truly suspends the liquid in poly-fill absorbs a nasty plastic/poly-fill taste). Ironically, when I want those flavors the most, I have the least 'hands' available to drip with, or I'm just not sitting still enough to wanna mess with an open bottle. These fit the bill for those two flavors
I might actually get around to vaping it all now I wondered about the little poly-ball in the plug, but so far none of my juices aquire a plastic flavor through these, so I'm delighted these came to be. All they need now is little condom caps (well, that's not a problem for me...as I have drawers full of them).
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It would be super handy if you would *please* include the link to the video in the OP. For some of us, the embedded vids do not work on ECF. Thank you.
Thank you! Dang, that was quick. 
Heading there now...must learn, must absorb, must process, must drip...
Cheers,
Ciego
Heading there now...must learn, must absorb, must process, must drip... Cheers,
Ciego
bad was nice enough to include a few of these with my last order so it gave me a chance to try them out. At first it seemed like a solution for a problem I didn't have, but I have to admit they work pretty darn well. No long-term experience to relay yet, but they're holding up well so far. They feed well - no leaks - and the taste is great. It'll definitely give me an excuse to start using up some of my atty stash again. They won't cure my CE2 addiction but it's nice to have a good alternate when I feel like using something different.
Thanks bad!
Thanks bad!
don't forget- must vape...
Thank you! Dang, that was quick.
Cheers,
Ciego
Sorry to bring this thread back to life here but my question is one video said to remove the filler and press the button for one second and in the video no liquid came out of the tank, the other video said leave the filler in and press a few times and suck. So I'm confused ?? Which way is the right way ??
when using the pumpcart with a regular bridged atomizer then leave the filler inside.
when using the new BRIDGLESS ATOMIZER with the pumpcart then remove the filler ball, when you need more juice, a super quick gentle tap drops 3 drops and your good to go.
when using the new BRIDGLESS ATOMIZER with the pumpcart then remove the filler ball, when you need more juice, a super quick gentle tap drops 3 drops and your good to go.
Not really a 'right or wrong' way to use them.
I tend to run higher PG liquids in mine that are pretty clear and thin.
I prime my regular bridged atty (901 preferred with these for me) first (5 drops, three quick burns, 3 more drops) before popping the pump cart in. I'm pretty lucky in that once I get mine going, I rarely have to pump it at all! I'll just tap the button once in a while to let a little air into the cart. For my liquid and local atmosphere that is enough to keep the bridge wet.
I got a box months ago and have only managed to wear out one thus far (running over 40ml of a really acidic juice through it over all this time finally softened it up to where the button doesn't seal off the air flow so well).
Dry draws and things like that................
For thicker liquids some might find a need to do more short pumps, or to just hold the button down a little longer each pump, or use a dry-draw (no heat) to pull a little more liquid into the atomizer. Some prefer to custom mod or thin out the filler plug a bit. Some would rather just hold the button down and suck a little than pump. How long to suck? Well, they practice until they find exactly what works for them and their particular liquid.
At the end of the day, vaping is kind of like baking. The perfect recipe on a dry 60 degree day at a high altitude will fall right to the bottom of the pan on a 80 degree high humidity day at sea level. What works for a guy on the Gulf Coast to make plumes of vapor on a 3.2Volt battery might take a guy in New Mexico 6Volts, a different atty, less liquid on the atty at a time, and a different kind of liquid (PG/VG ratio) to achieve. Then there is personal 'taste'...sensing when to add pinch of this or a dab of that to compensate for the environment of the day helps a bunch in baking...in baking if you go by the recipe to the letter it rarely ever works...you learn to sense when a little more salt, liquid, flour, or yeast is needed and add it on the fly...etc. Similar with vaping...you'll get a feel for your PV and liquids and find your way. The pump cart lets you control the air flow into the cart much better than regular smart or lucid carts. It also provides a gentle pumping force that can help push thicker liquids on through.
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Good response and thanks for the help. Since you don't need the filler on debridged atties , why can't we just remove the filler when using regular atties and only hit the Button a quick second like you would with a debridged? I'd rather only hit it once than have to pump it several times anyway. Is there a downside if I take the filler out and use it like that on a regular atty ?
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Seems to me (And I may be wrong) that with a Bridged atty the bridge is going to be pushing into the pumpcart hole where the filler is. If there is no filler there is going to be a constant flow of liquid. Kinda like....ever go to dump liquid from a CE2 back into your juice bottle...the drop is around the end of the carto and doesn't drip out until you touch the bottle against it? (There's no way anyone is able to picture this analogy!) lol. Anyway, I have a feeling with a bridge and no filler the bridge sticking in there is going to make the liquid continue to flow out.
yes you are correct.
also, you can leave the filler in with the new bridgless atomizer, but then you need to perform the trick ^ chris above invented.
also, you can leave the filler in with the new bridgless atomizer, but then you need to perform the trick ^ chris above invented.
I absolutely LOVE these carts!!! It was kind of strange leaving home for a few hours the other day without taking my little 3ml bottle of juice with me.
Only one minor problem I've had is that while removing the silicone cap to refill, I accidentally broke off the little silicone tabs that hang over the sides of the cart bottom. It's now a lot harder to get the caps out without the tabs to grasp. I did this to two carts - maybe I need to be gentler with the next ones.
Only one minor problem I've had is that while removing the silicone cap to refill, I accidentally broke off the little silicone tabs that hang over the sides of the cart bottom. It's now a lot harder to get the caps out without the tabs to grasp. I did this to two carts - maybe I need to be gentler with the next ones.
I know exactly what you mean. So the fact that the bridge would be touching the bottom of the pump cart, if i were to take filler ball out then it would empty the entire tank onto the atty seconds. ( mental note, dont do that , got it ) . I guess I'll have to test it a little just like the rest and see how much comes out based on the amount of sucking and pushing. Haha. ( that's what she said ). ( no good ? Too cliche ?)
Anyway thanks guys. I'll report back with how they work for me !
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Anyway thanks guys. I'll report back with how they work for me !
Getting these delivered soon.
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I'm not doubting anyone else's experience with this but when Chris came out with taking the filler out for the bridgeless atomizers I thought what the heck and tried it with the bridge in.
I have had great success with this and it seems to work better this way, at least for me. I think that the bridge does push up to the bottom of the cart but not enough to cause it to leak out. I push the button every now and then and the juice seems to saturate the bridge which gives me a good 10 to 12 hits before I need to hit the button again but it does not leak.
I also carry a 6ml bottle with me and I don't even have to remove the bottom from the cart to refill. I just push the tip of my bottle into the bottom on the cart and fill it in seconds. You may want to give that a try and see how it works for you.
Anyway, like I said everyone has different experiences but removing the filler with a bridged atomizer has been working great for me.
Thanks!
I have had great success with this and it seems to work better this way, at least for me. I think that the bridge does push up to the bottom of the cart but not enough to cause it to leak out. I push the button every now and then and the juice seems to saturate the bridge which gives me a good 10 to 12 hits before I need to hit the button again but it does not leak.
I also carry a 6ml bottle with me and I don't even have to remove the bottom from the cart to refill. I just push the tip of my bottle into the bottom on the cart and fill it in seconds. You may want to give that a try and see how it works for you.
Anyway, like I said everyone has different experiences but removing the filler with a bridged atomizer has been working great for me.
Thanks!
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