Just now putting together my DIY kit, and all of this information has been a big help, and, I'm sure, it prevent a lot of mistakes on my part. Thanks to everyone!
Guide to DIY Flavoring
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I am going to be starting DIY soon and I was wondering if anyone could give me their opinions of different brands of cherry flavors. I have no idea what flavoring to get and I want to avoid getting one that tastes like medicine like a lot of premade liquids do, otherwise why DYI!
Depends what kind of Cherry you want. From the Awards section, bottom of post 2. 
"Cherry: 1) Seedman's Cherry 2) FA Cherry 3) PA Black Cherry / Maraschino Cherry"
I don't know about FF's Cherry which is all natural, but the other Cherry flavors are bad or cough syrupy IIRC.
"Cherry: 1) Seedman's Cherry 2) FA Cherry 3) PA Black Cherry / Maraschino Cherry"
I don't know about FF's Cherry which is all natural, but the other Cherry flavors are bad or cough syrupy IIRC.
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Capella Flavor Drops:
Vanilla Custard 5/5 Everyone that does DIY needs this flavor in their arsenal. It adds density and creaminess to most dessert recipes.
Gingerbread 5/5 Wonderful spicy flavor with great TH. I prefer it mixed 70/30 with Vanilla Custard. It's a very sweet vape for those times you just need sweet!! This is THE GB everyone raves about.
Waffle 5/5 IMO Capella has the best Waffle flavor available. It's sweet with a maple syrup flavor. This is a good flavor alone, with Vanilla Custard or with fruit flavors. This is THE waffle to get!!
Double Chocolate 5/5 Again I add Vanilla Custard to give it more body and one drop of Peppermint to 3ml will give you the Oreo Cookie taste. Caramel gives it a creamier, softer taste.
Coconut 5/5 Adds body to many blends and doesn't overpower other flavors.
Cinnamon Danish Swirl 5/5 I like this as compliment to fruit and chocolate flavors. It makes chocolate taste like a Mexican Hot Chocolate and fruit flavors taste like Danish pastry. This flavor does well in small amounts when mixed with other flavors. Start with a lower % than other flavors.
Egg Nog 3/5 This flavor is missing something but I don't know what. It has a nice eggnog flavor under something spicy. I added Vanilla Custard and Brandy and that helped. Not one of my favorites yet. Start with a lower % than other flavors.
Vanilla Cupcake 4/5 I like this flavor but it gets lost at normal concentrations. It's a nice base flavor for cakes and fun to work with.
Milk Chocolate Toffee 5/5 I love this flavor and add Double Chocolate and a little butter flavoring.
Toasted Almond 5/5 Another one of my favorites mixed with Double Chocolate and a little Caramel.
Boston Cream Pie 4/5 I add a little Double Chocolate and a little Vanilla Custard but that's just my preference. This one seems to lose flavor over time and is better vaped immediately. I let a mix sit for about a month and the flavor had decreased significantly. I love this flavor so I make it up fresh when I want some.
Capella's flavors tend to be fairly uniform and easy to work with. I like my flavors strong so tend to use about 20% but that may be too much for most.
Vanilla Custard 5/5 Everyone that does DIY needs this flavor in their arsenal. It adds density and creaminess to most dessert recipes.
Gingerbread 5/5 Wonderful spicy flavor with great TH. I prefer it mixed 70/30 with Vanilla Custard. It's a very sweet vape for those times you just need sweet!!
This is THE GB everyone raves about.Waffle 5/5 IMO Capella has the best Waffle flavor available. It's sweet with a maple syrup flavor. This is a good flavor alone, with Vanilla Custard or with fruit flavors. This is THE waffle to get!!
Double Chocolate 5/5 Again I add Vanilla Custard to give it more body and one drop of Peppermint to 3ml will give you the Oreo Cookie taste. Caramel gives it a creamier, softer taste.
Coconut 5/5 Adds body to many blends and doesn't overpower other flavors.
Cinnamon Danish Swirl 5/5 I like this as compliment to fruit and chocolate flavors. It makes chocolate taste like a Mexican Hot Chocolate and fruit flavors taste like Danish pastry. This flavor does well in small amounts when mixed with other flavors. Start with a lower % than other flavors.
Egg Nog 3/5 This flavor is missing something but I don't know what. It has a nice eggnog flavor under something spicy. I added Vanilla Custard and Brandy and that helped. Not one of my favorites yet. Start with a lower % than other flavors.
Vanilla Cupcake 4/5 I like this flavor but it gets lost at normal concentrations. It's a nice base flavor for cakes and fun to work with.
Milk Chocolate Toffee 5/5 I love this flavor and add Double Chocolate and a little butter flavoring.
Toasted Almond 5/5 Another one of my favorites mixed with Double Chocolate and a little Caramel.
Boston Cream Pie 4/5 I add a little Double Chocolate and a little Vanilla Custard but that's just my preference. This one seems to lose flavor over time and is better vaped immediately. I let a mix sit for about a month and the flavor had decreased significantly. I love this flavor so I make it up fresh when I want some.
Capella's flavors tend to be fairly uniform and easy to work with. I like my flavors strong so tend to use about 20% but that may be too much for most.
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" Storing e-liquid (outdated, fridge not recommended for flavored e-liquid/flavorings)"
Purevapes, I took your advice and have been reading, reading and reading this weekend. You were so right when you said talking to experienced people will not make you experienced. I confess I was feeling lazy. Your guide is great. I do have a question re: storage. I thought the refrigerator was a good place to store. Is it not? One other thing I'm not real clear on is whether or not to get the nic base in pg or vg. From looking at Dan's excel sheets it appears it wouldn't make any difference because you would still calculate to get the end result. In one of your replies to me you said to get it in what the predominant base would be in the end. In my case if I'm doing 70pg/30vg then I would assume I would get a pg base. I'm just wondering if there are any pros or cons that I'm not aware of.
Purevapes, I took your advice and have been reading, reading and reading this weekend. You were so right when you said talking to experienced people will not make you experienced. I confess I was feeling lazy. Your guide is great. I do have a question re: storage. I thought the refrigerator was a good place to store. Is it not? One other thing I'm not real clear on is whether or not to get the nic base in pg or vg. From looking at Dan's excel sheets it appears it wouldn't make any difference because you would still calculate to get the end result. In one of your replies to me you said to get it in what the predominant base would be in the end. In my case if I'm doing 70pg/30vg then I would assume I would get a pg base. I'm just wondering if there are any pros or cons that I'm not aware of.
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Just updated my FREE eJuice DIY Calculator. Added more functionality with multiple flavoring, saving and opening recipe files. A nice jester would be for users to share their recipe files by sending them to others so they can copy them into the eJuice Me Up folder on their hard drives. Note: For Windows PC's (All versions).
GoodDog: Thanks, added a link to your post in the Capella's section. Good information.
frisco: Some people have had flavors go bad fast in the fridge, while others precipitate/separate out of their base. PG is less viscous and easier to work with, so I prefer to use a nic base in that. If your mixes are majority PG, you will have more flexibility in general because it won't restrict your ratios as much. For example, if you get 50mg/ml VG nic, and you vape at 20mg/ml, you will have to always use 40% VG just to get it to 20mg/ml.
breaktru: Your site has too many advertisements for other suppliers so I'd rather not link to it, but I don't mind linking to the .zip file if that's okay with you. Also wondering if in future versions it could connect it to some sort of database so people can share recipes with everyone else using it (like the iPhone app).
frisco: Some people have had flavors go bad fast in the fridge, while others precipitate/separate out of their base. PG is less viscous and easier to work with, so I prefer to use a nic base in that. If your mixes are majority PG, you will have more flexibility in general because it won't restrict your ratios as much. For example, if you get 50mg/ml VG nic, and you vape at 20mg/ml, you will have to always use 40% VG just to get it to 20mg/ml.
breaktru: Your site has too many advertisements for other suppliers so I'd rather not link to it, but I don't mind linking to the .zip file if that's okay with you. Also wondering if in future versions it could connect it to some sort of database so people can share recipes with everyone else using it (like the iPhone app).
Thanks PureVapes, your link would be appreciated. The vendor links are there to help users out for accessories and sources for liquids. Are you associated with PureVape.com ? if so, I can link my site to yours. That's a wonderful idea with the database. I will consider it in a future update... Stay Tuned.
No, I'm not associated with anyone but myself. Didn't know that site existed, but looks like it just re-routes to a standard Joye/DeKang reseller.
Anyway, I'll just link to your site, it's not too bad. Although that 'download now' link is hidden in the middle of the page.
Anyway, I'll just link to your site, it's not too bad. Although that 'download now' link is hidden in the middle of the page.
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Thanks purevapes. That's what I needed to know. I was leaning towards all pg, made sense to me, but I'm great at second guessing myself and with something that I consider this important I really don't want to screw it up.
I have both PA and Wiltons. Don't know if those are the best though.
Capella Flavoring. Double Dark Chocolate, Chocolate Fudge Brownie, etc.... Lots of rich flavoring at: http://capellaflavordrops.com/flavordrops.aspx
FlavourArt Cocoa is the darkest chocolate I've found, but Capella has very good chocolates as well. They are just not as dark (and it's actually Double Chocolate, not Double Dark).
Minor update, I cleaned up some bad looking links and fixed a couple broken ones.
Also, now that I'm a supplier I won't be editing it much anymore unless people post feedback in this thread for me to add. Thanks everyone!
Also, now that I'm a supplier I won't be editing it much anymore unless people post feedback in this thread for me to add. Thanks everyone!
I am still new to this but I am perplexed by one thing. Flavorings made by companies like Lorann are basically a solution of flavor in PG. Since DIY'ers are basically just thinning it out with more PG, why not just buy flavoring in the form of powder (or whatever form it comes in) and mix it with PG (as you have to add anyway)?
I do not know what goes on in companies like Lorann but I'll bet they do not make the flavor itself. They buy it and mix it with PG. Perhaps add some coloring (which we do not need).
I would think that companies that make e-juice don't buy their flavorings from companies like Lorann. They probably buy it in powder form and cut out the middleman (Lorann, etc).
I do not know what goes on in companies like Lorann but I'll bet they do not make the flavor itself. They buy it and mix it with PG. Perhaps add some coloring (which we do not need).
I would think that companies that make e-juice don't buy their flavorings from companies like Lorann. They probably buy it in powder form and cut out the middleman (Lorann, etc).
Good question. Most undiluted flavoring chemicals are extremely strong and very difficult to work with, sometimes you have to dilute them to 0.01%. In powder form you would need to measure out something like 1/1000th of a teaspoon, which is not feasible. Plus they don't make the flavorings for vaping, they make them for use in candy and other food, where the a little is enough because it directly contacts your tongue.
However, you can get diluted forms of specific flavoring chemicals from Perfumer's Apprentice in their Molecules section.
However, you can get diluted forms of specific flavoring chemicals from Perfumer's Apprentice in their Molecules section.
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