Has anyone else seen these news reports in the last 24 hrs?

[Mitchmadd]

.

Hey Mitch,

I have chronic stomach problems and have to vape all VG liquid with no flavorings. It causes me no problems unless I go above 12mg strength. I make my own juice. The taste is boring but my emphysema improved 100% when I switched to ecigs, so there's no going back for me. I like breathing

thank you all for the info. i want to say i am not against vaping in any way and i know that my situation has to do with an unknown diagnosis. I personally just am afraid of taking another chance at it, i was afraid to eat because i didn't know what would trigger my gastrointestinal problems and now i can eat almost anything without problem, within a week of not vaping my symptoms disappeared & i know now that vaping had exacerbated my initial symptoms to the point of unemployment. if i take a few hits from my vape now i just get super nauseous and after it takes effect my blood pressure drops and i am stumbling out of the bathroom after using it like a drunkard, when i could taste the bile when i burped i knew i had to get ready for another episode. buy some pedialyte, buy some depends and put the trash can next to my bed cause i would be throwing up.

and to skeebo, I have already educated myself about it, i do not take any of those medications because i didn't have insurance after losing my jobs over my symptoms, and for the record, ever since i stopped vaping i have not had a single problem with my Digestive system. i completely changed my lifestyle because of my experience. And to make things clear I am not uneducated, ignorant, or stupid. I have a health coach/Personal trainer as a wife and she has helped me get through this ordeal with her knowledge

 

[bombastinator]

Smoking gave vaping a bad rep. It's easy for people to say, "It's the same as smoking!", because it looks like it. At a distance a vaper is a smoker because they are blowing "smoke". At least to the viewer it looks like smoke. What's that saying our parents used, "the appearance of evil"?

Seems backward to me. Vaping never would have happened if it wasn’t for smoking. Vaping is tertiary to smoking.
There’s a decent argument that vaping should have happened in the 1930s, and would have but for corporate greed. In that case all the science and whatnot would be water under the bridge. If that had happened, you’d be right. But it didn’t. We’re dealing with it now. An era of secret science and public lies.

 

[Falconeer]

I perhaps think it would have been better to have (a) done an introduction and posted some profile details and (b) then started a second thread possibly starting it off with " I know this is probably a very rare complication but ..."

Here I possibly should add that I spent some 25 years as a Disablement Resettlement Officer (DRO) then Area DRO then Area Disablement Advisory Services Manager ... and I met some heroic people who humbled me greatly with their refusal to lie down despite their problems and who often used their Graveyard Humour as a weapon in their battle against some terrible injuries or conditions....

My wife by the way was the most highly qualified Nurse in our county, was a Sister at 25 and retired as Deputy Matron, my daughter is a Psychiatric Nurse who suffers from IBS and my cousins are also nurses, general psychiatric and cardiac.

 

[Mitchmadd]

Uuuuh…. You joined a vaping forum just to say that? Why? So that other seekers of the placebo mystery illness can band together with you?

(By the way, I am not saying your illness isn't real. I am not even saying you SHOULD vape ESPECIALLY since when you got called on the illness you ACTUALLY mentioned and then it became a different, mystery illness?)

Which is it?

This would be like me joining a cigar connoisseur forum and my telling them it made me turn into Arnold Schwarzenegger and I didn't like the musculature and then when I got called on it, I'd be like, "Well, I did start weight lifting around that time, but its really [insert mystery illness]"

I mean, I would have a hard time even taking MYSELF seriously on that one.

If It's diverticulitis, you can vape. You can tell us what the other mystery illness is like if you grew a penis or something perhaps we can also help.

I'm not making light of your illnesses by the way, but I do find your posting style a bit opaque.

Anna

i dont have time to battle, i really joined to see if anyone else had any similar problems, but every single post about gastrointestinal problems and vaping has been closed, quit trolling, i actually plan on doing more research on what really caused it. quit trolling and making your ignorant self look ignorant. i personally don't mind a good debate but what you bring is complete mockery not any actual facts. i never mentioned that it was related to diverticulitus, i did however mention that i have it which could be related to the symptoms, i have no idea what caused my situation what i do know is that it went away after i stopped.

 

[AttyPops]

i take a few hits from my vape now i just get super nauseous and after it takes effect my blood pressure drops and

Nicotine INCREASES your blood pressure (it's a vascular constrictor).

IDK what you're vaping, but....
E-cigarettes linked to increased arterial stiffness, blood pressure and heart rate in humans

 

[Skeebo]

.

and to skeebo, I have already educated myself about it, i do not take any of those medications because i didn't have insurance after losing my jobs over my symptoms, and for the record, ever since i stopped vaping i have not had a single problem with my Digestive system. i completely changed my lifestyle because of my experience. And to make things clear I am not uneducated, ignorant, or stupid. I have a health coach/Personal trainer as a wife and she has helped me get through this ordeal with her knowledge

I never said you were ignorant or stupid, that's how you took it. Reading comprehensively is an obvious issue, but maybe that's caused by vaping too. If you've quit vaping good for you, now skedaddle on out of here in good health.

 

[Mitchmadd]

do you all want me to post my hospital records to show you all those er visits and sympotms cause i can do that, it will take awhile but i can get it done. i am not shunning vaping at all i really loved vaping especially melon flavors but i had to quit. you all can continue vaping and enjoy the delicious flavors but i cannot. the way i figured that vaping was not for me anymore was eliminating things out of my lifestyle to see if it had any effects and guess what, when i stopped vaping 90% of my problems went away. I SAY THIS IN CAPS SO YOU ALL WILL SEE IT "I AM NOT AGAINST VAPING!!!!"

 

[AttyPops]

I SAY THIS IN CAPS SO YOU ALL WILL SEE IT "I AM NOT AGAINST VAPING!!!!"

That's fine.

However we're having trouble making any sense of your assumptions/conclusions here. That's all. We're not doctors anyway.
I still, like I did last time, wish you well.

 

[Skeebo]

do you all want me to post my hospital records to show you all those er visits and sympotms cause i can do that, it will take awhile but i can get it done. i am not shunning vaping at all i really loved vaping especially melon flavors but i had to quit. you all can continue vaping and enjoy the delicious flavors but i cannot. the way i figured that vaping was not for me anymore was eliminating things out of my lifestyle to see if it had any effects and guess what, when i stopped vaping 90% of my problems went away. I SAY THIS IN CAPS SO YOU ALL WILL SEE IT "I AM NOT AGAINST VAPING!!!!"

If I stopped vaping the ONLY reason I am coming back here is to say "goodbye" to all these fine folks. We don't care about your hospital records, income, being a personal trainer, or whatever agenda you have here. You felt vaping was the cause and you quit, good on you-- and I mean that.

Take care and good luck!

 

[bombastinator]

do you all want me to post my hospital records to show you all those er visits and sympotms cause i can do that, it will take awhile but i can get it done. i am not shunning vaping at all i really loved vaping especially melon flavors but i had to quit. you all can continue vaping and enjoy the delicious flavors but i cannot. the way i figured that vaping was not for me anymore was eliminating things out of my lifestyle to see if it had any effects and guess what, when i stopped vaping 90% of my problems went away. I SAY THIS IN CAPS SO YOU ALL WILL SEE IT "I AM NOT AGAINST VAPING!!!!"

If it works better without it it works better without it. It does make me terribly curious as to exactly what about vaping was doing it, but that’s not something that can be determined. As long as you don’t go back to smoking you win.

 

[Falconeer]

This thread had been derailed, by an off topic post.

The accusation of Trolling has been made.

Here's a defintion of trolling -

"In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain."

The original thread was disrupted by an off topic post which was not germain to the Report under discussion.

Trolls often, continue/ end up by portraying themselves as the victim rather than the perpetrator of trolling.

 

[zoiDman]

This thread had been derailed, by an off topic post.

...

I think this is a Side-Effect of Nicotine.

Because it seems to happen A Lot around here.

 

[Jebbn]

Endotoxins. I remember something about endotoxins, and a report, no, a research paper.
Ah yes, thats right. I remember it all now. I lost track of what the thread was about.
Has anyone mentioned Hitler yet?
Thread hijacked by upset tummy. We all jumped in on it. Hijacker then called other posters trolls and offered up hospital records and insisted vigorously that he wasnt against vaping.
Gotta be honest, this happens a lot here. I used to be frustrated by it, now it just seems par for the course.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Ask your health coach to explain the correlation between diverticulitis, your digestive tract and vaping, report back with the explanation.

.


thank you all for the info. i want to say i am not against vaping in any way and i know that my situation has to do with an unknown diagnosis. I personally just am afraid of taking another chance at it, i was afraid to eat because i didn't know what would trigger my gastrointestinal problems and now i can eat almost anything without problem, within a week of not vaping my symptoms disappeared & i know now that vaping had exacerbated my initial symptoms to the point of unemployment. if i take a few hits from my vape now i just get super nauseous and after it takes effect my blood pressure drops and i am stumbling out of the bathroom after using it like a drunkard, when i could taste the bile when i burped i knew i had to get ready for another episode. buy some pedialyte, buy some depends and put the trash can next to my bed cause i would be throwing up.

and to skeebo, I have already educated myself about it, i do not take any of those medications because i didn't have insurance after losing my jobs over my symptoms, and for the record, ever since i stopped vaping i have not had a single problem with my Digestive system. i completely changed my lifestyle because of my experience. And to make things clear I am not uneducated, ignorant, or stupid. I have a health coach/Personal trainer as a wife and she has helped me get through this ordeal with her knowledge

 

[CMD-Ky]

do you all want me to post my hospital records to show you all those er visits and sympotms cause i can do that, it will take awhile but i can get it done.

Please don't.

 

[mightymen]

They call it outside for a reason...

 

[stols001]

Okay. Anyone who describes their health quandary as an "ordeal" can go pound sand in my book.

I know people whose significant others who have DIED and the don't use the "O" word. I have like 20K worth of DENTAL work being upsetting, for a long time and I did it all AWAKE and with ADVIL. Yep that's NINE (one failed and had to be replaced) titanium posts in my JAW awake the WHOLE time (I now know why oral surgeons have arms that look like blacksmiths and yeah it was UNPLESANT.)

However, I tend to look back on that time that I am still going through (got a jaw infection) as humorous, I vaped the entire time and when I was supposed to like NOT vape, I nasal vaped, I was creative.

An ordeal, to me, is something like the flogging and death of Christ on the cross kinda deal? Not having to give up vaping and especially FLAVORS.

We have helped you with the illness you DISCLOSED, actually.

If you THINK you have some sort of as yet undiagnosed MYSTERY illness, well, come back when it's diagnosed, if it ever is, and seek fellow sufferers THEN.

I mean, if you don't know what it IS then WHY would you expect US to know??

I'm not psychic and I'm not trolling. I'm sorry about your vaping ISSUE and your health ISSUE but no one can help with an imaginary ordeal.

I suppose having an imaginary disease WOULD be sort of annoying. I find the multiple serious, non-imaginary and oh so CHRONIC illnesses I have kind of annoying. I have to take meds that have side effects, I had to have all my teeth removed I have a fine motor tremor that is not really treatable.

Still, just, you know LIFE. No an ORDEAL. Stop being so gosh darned histrionic and even keep posting if you WANT but for the love of god, act like a grownup and remember We Are Not Psychic.

This thread used to be so interesting.

Anna

 

[CMD-Ky]

This thread used to be so interesting.

Anna

In an odd way, it still is.

 

[dreamvaper]

i switched back to analogs and ever since i have not had a single trip to the ER.

i have quit vaping because of it and i have not had any problems since.

oh G, I believe you Do have some problems tho.
you better continue with analogs so when you'll have another set of health problems, you won't mention vaping as a cause to it.

 

[dripster]

Yes, for sure people do look at Vape like smoking. I have friends in the US and Australia and Europe. What I hear from all places though is everything negative from the top to the bottom with vaping. Not things looking on the up. Flavour bans, online selling bans, companies folding up, suppliers having to move to other states to stay in business. Far from a bad stare or glare from just a granny not being happy. Places where nicotine for ejuice is illegal, advertising illegal, shops not allowed even a sign saying they sell Vape gear. This is from government level, not people in the street being unawares. There are people in Europe that when Customs checks a parcel and see's a mod, a tank, coils, they destroy them on the spot. I personally know people that have had this happen to. And its increasing world wide, not decreasing as some misguidedly think.

I live in Belgium, Europe. People here don't look at vaping like smoking because, instead, they keep telling me in the streets that vaping is even far worse than smoking, and, immediately as soon as I start my reply with "Royal College of Physicians" and "scientific evidence", they'll interrupt me with claims about bribery and corruption, and then they'll start laughing at me, and also I get looked at like I'm some kind of terrorist who is throwing massive amounts of chemical poison in the air. Online selling is banned, advertising illegal, vaping in public indoor places illegal, which means vaping in vape shops is illegal also. Heavy police raids in vape shops are not uncommon so vapers and vape shops get publicly criminalized in addition to this. And yeah, mods do get destroyed on the spot if they are intercepted by customs so if a Belgian vaper orders a mod from a web shop owned by a company in one of our neigbouring EU countries like from the UK, The Netherlands, Germany, or France, it's smuggling. On very many occasions and in a big variety of ways, vapers are essentially getting treated like they're the scum of the earth. Whereas smokers, as long as they go outside to smoke, are mainly just being ignored by everyone. That is, aside from the stereotypical "they've become expensive, haven't they?" that gets thrown around frequently of course.

 

[Uncle Willie]

i dont have time to battle, i really joined to see if anyone else had any similar problems, but every single post about gastrointestinal problems and vaping has been closed, quit trolling, i actually plan on doing more research on what really caused it. quit trolling and making your ignorant self look ignorant. i personally don't mind a good debate but what you bring is complete mockery not any actual facts. i never mentioned that it was related to diverticulitus, i did however mention that i have it which could be related to the symptoms, i have no idea what caused my situation what i do know is that it went away after i stopped.