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wow, 27% alcohol. Not for me either. Even a few drops in a tad of water and you've made yourself a stiff drink, lol.

Apparently the alcohol has most of the calming effect maybe, wonder what they substitute with for the Kids version?


Dunno... but I can tell you for sure that alcohol NEVER had a calming effect on ME. At least, not until I had consumed so much that I was basically comatose. More of a "GIMME MORE RIGHT NOW!" effect. It always made me laugh that Nyquil was supposed to help you sleep. :p All it ever did for me was make me look for more alcohol -- that didn't taste like anise, bleah! I once successfully conned my ex into buying me all the component ingredients of Nyquil, plus a bottle of wine, simply because Nyquil tastes so vile. I dunno if it helped the cold, but it sure made me feel better. :D

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I have a problem like this . my doctor thinks it is svt ( super ventricular tachycardia) I get spells of racing heart rate , i get dizzy and start to panick. It was a lot worse when i was drinking heavily and smoking, so i stopped doing those things, i was scared i was going to have a heart attack. It still happens though , even with my new clean living and pure of heart lifestyle. It happens less frequently and the attacks are not as long . Apparently , according to my doctor, Smoking etc cannot cause an irregular or accelerated heart rhythm disorder , the problem is electrical and is sometimes caused by a crossing of wires if you like , sometimes it is a sign of heart disease but more often than not it isn't. While not the cause of the symptoms , abusing tobacco and alcohol, drugs etc can definitley exacerbate the symptoms . Go to the doctor get an EKG just to be sure
 

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The best thing you can do is get checked out. Most find that it's a benign condition, but knowing that helps quiet the anxiety about it. I went through the same thing in my 30's. I finally got my fiance to take me to an ER while it was going on because no doctor had ever actually caught it happening. They kept me on the EKG machine for about 30 minutes and caught some PVC's (premature ventricular contractions). Benign was the diagnosis.

Just to be sure, I wore a holter monitor for 24 hours. Same diagnosis. The cardiologist ran me on a treadmill while hooked up to a monitor. They elevated the treadmill incrementally and finally the doctor told the nurse to take me down, he was getting bored.

I finally discovered that it always happened when my digestive system was out of whack. The Vagus nerve runs the length of your body and can be pressured by flatulence. When that happens, the heart can get out of rhythm. Once I knew that, it was just a matter of eating right and keeping my digestive system running regular.

25 years later it happens sometimes, but it's always associated with the same thing for me - digestive pressure. I fix that and the problem goes away. You mileage may vary. The important thing is getting checked out while it's happening to make sure it's not a lethal condition.
 

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Absolutely, what DaveP said, get it checked out!!!
I was having problems many years ago and put it off. I finally waited too long and ended up with a triple bypass!

Getting the heart tests (stress test and nuclear test) and very easy to do, not painful and covered by most insurance companies. And another big plus, they may save your life!!!
 
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I have a problem like this . my doctor thinks it is svt ( super ventricular tachycardia) I get spells of racing heart rate , i get dizzy and start to panick. It was a lot worse when i was drinking heavily and smoking, so i stopped doing those things, i was scared i was going to have a heart attack. It still happens though , even with my new clean living and pure of heart lifestyle. It happens less frequently and the attacks are not as long . Apparently , according to my doctor, Smoking etc cannot cause an irregular or accelerated heart rhythm disorder , the problem is electrical and is sometimes caused by a crossing of wires if you like , sometimes it is a sign of heart disease but more often than not it isn't. While not the cause of the symptoms , abusing tobacco and alcohol, drugs etc can definitley exacerbate the symptoms . Go to the doctor get an EKG just to be sure

That actually sounds a great deal more like a panic attack than anything else; I used to get them quite often, when I was suffering an extreme phase of my depression/anxiety disorder, but as my overall emotional health has improved, they seem to have pretty much vanished. They surely are uncomfortable, to the point that your panic makes you panic! Terrible vicious circle.

That's true about cigarettes not *causing* what may well be an electrical disorder with the heart, but I'm thinking they surely can't help it much. And alcohol would definitely not be helpful, since alcohol has the ability to actually damage and thin blood vessels.

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    That actually sounds a great deal more like a panic attack than anything else; I used to get them quite often, when I was suffering an extreme phase of my depression/anxiety disorder, but as my overall emotional health has improved, they seem to have pretty much vanished. They surely are uncomfortable, to the point that your panic makes you panic! Terrible vicious circle.

    That's true about cigarettes not *causing* what may well be an electrical disorder with the heart, but I'm thinking they surely can't help it much. And alcohol would definitely not be helpful, since alcohol has the ability to actually damage and thin blood vessels.

    Andria

    How were you able to improve your emotional health, Andria? I have GAD and I have been accepting and facing my fears. I have come a long way, but still have more to go. Was just curious how you improved.
     

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    How were you able to improve your emotional health, Andria? I have GAD and I have been accepting and facing my fears. I have come a long way, but still have more to go. Was just curious how you improved.

    Well the starting point was taking Effexor for about 2 yrs. I can't really recommend that unless the depression is so bad that you're actually suicidal (as I was, at the time), because the withdrawal from that stuff makes cigarette withdrawal look like a walk in the park (the withdrawal took about a year and was just awful), but Effexor actually has an on-label very beneficial effect on GAD as well as depression. Also therapy, in which my husband was included, because one of my major issues was that he just didn't understand at all what I was going thru, and as much as we love each other, and had a 15 yr old son at home at the time (both excellent reasons for avoiding divorce!), I was afraid that dealing with my illness was seriously eroding the marriage -- it was one of my primary anxieties, in fact. That therapy helped a GREAT deal.

    One of my other major anxieties was riding around in traffic -- I was so terrified of major highways I would often end up scrunched down into the footwell, hugging myself, eyes clamped shut, squealing everytime he hit the brakes. We solved that one pretty easily by getting a truck -- turns out that sitting up high makes you feel a lot more secure in heavy traffic, and less like some lamebrain is going to just come right over into your lane, and it helped a lot with my terror of tractor-trailers just squishing us like a bug. Plus the fact that even regular pick-up trucks are a lot sturdier than just about any car, so even if you got hit, you'd probably not even be injured, nevermind killed.

    And one which may not be applicable to you... my peri-menopausal hormonal mayhem finally eased into post-menopausal stability. That one took the longest, but may be the biggest reason my brain chemicals finally settled down, when my hormones stopped playing hell with them. Another was buying a house, since interest-rates and housing prices were rock bottom in 2011, and may still be. That one did a GREAT deal for my sense of security and peace of mind, but it's turned me into Mrs. Control Freak when it comes time to pay the bills -- I handle that, and I make sure that EVERYTHING is covered. We're still just working-class "poor" people, but being able to pay your bills and your housenote and still buy groceries does wonders for your peace of mind.

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    I hope that didn't sound glib . I have GAD as well, and depression , although personally find it hard to differentiate and I think those diagnosis are provisional at best . One of the traps I found easy to fall into was becoming anxious about my anxiety disorder and if could ever overcome it . That's fun..... I think that life is hard and inherently sad , but it is also the opposite of those things as well. Some people say our anxieties are just visible surfaces of a much larger and unconscious fear - death- and that the way in which we live nowadays , which has in effect sort of made this central anxiety invisible , forces us to create all of these essentially imaginary problems . So I try and just keep things in perspective that way , and accept the fact that I don't really know what I am doing
     
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    I hope that didn't sound glib . I have GAD as well, and depression , although personally find it hard to differentiate and I think those diagnosis are provisional at best . One of the traps I found easy to fall into was becoming anxious about my anxiety disorder and if could ever overcome it . That's fun..... I think that life is hard and inherently sad , but it is also the opposite of those things as well. Some people say our anxieties are just visible surfaces of a much larger and unconscious fear - death- and that the way in which we live nowadays , which has in effect sort of made this central anxiety invisible , forces us to create all of these essentially imaginary problems . So I try and just keep things in perspective that way , and accept the fact that I don't really know what I am doing

    Very well said. I found myself anxious about my anxiety!!! The symptoms kept me in a vicious circle. I have been learning to let them just BE. Accept all feelings, good and bad, don't fight them and don't fear them. Take them with you and LIVE. Eventually, they will die down if you don't give them the attention they want.
     
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    I hope that didn't sound glib . I have GAD as well, and depression , although personally find it hard to differentiate and I think those diagnosis are provisional at best . One of the traps I found easy to fall into was becoming anxious about my anxiety disorder and if could ever overcome it . That's fun..... I think that life is hard and inherently sad , but it is also the opposite of those things as well. Some people say our anxieties are just visible surfaces of a much larger and unconscious fear - death- and that the way in which we live nowadays , which has in effect sort of made this central anxiety invisible , forces us to create all of these essentially imaginary problems . So I try and just keep things in perspective that way , and accept the fact that I don't really know what I am doing

    That's all probably true -- but I'm glad you threw in that life is also the opposite of "inherently sad" -- sometimes it's a real riot! Sometimes I think god is laughing his [whatever] off at all of our foibles. Sometimes I feel like god is shooting spitwads at us, just for the meanness of it. And sometimes I wonder why a life form that shares a lot of characteristics with a virus gets the idea that we're somehow the sole repository in the universe of consciousness and sentience.

    And also... what you said is true, somewhat, about our fears.... but you do have to take into consideration that neuroscience has made great strides in identifying much of the brain's chemical action, and why some types of brain chemical action aren't very comfortable for us, and they've even made some decent progress in learning how to correct some of those brain chemical problems. I'd be the first to say that they've got a LONG way to go, because the withdrawal from Effexor and other drugs of that ilk is just hellish; and maybe they'll never know *everything* about the brain and how it works -- but you know, if someone suffered from depression/anxiety a hundred years ago, they just threw 'em in a madhouse. If it was 2 or 3 hundred years ago, they'd call 'em possessed and attempt to exorcise the demon.

    I really think that for *most* issues, therapy is probably the best choice, but if the brain chemistry is so freaking wigged out, sometimes progress just can't be made, until you do something to correct some of the chemical mayhem. That was true for me; we were in therapy for a couple of months, and although our relationship was stronger, my own feelings weren't getting any better, I was *still* at the point of, if it doesn't stop hurting, I'm just going to kill myself. Once I had been on the Effexor for a month or so, I felt a great deal like my old self again, and over time, I actually became my old self again, so that I could see that suicide actually is the "permanent solution to a temporary problem."

    When the problems are that bad, I think it's wrong to disregard any potential therapy, psychiatric, emotional, or pharmaceutical; they can all work together, to create a sense of peace of mind so that one actually can get up each morning and face each new day's cosmic spitwads. :thumb:

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    My DR wanted to put me on beta blockers, and I was for a bit, but didnt like how I felt on them so I stopped and was determined to try to figure out what was going on. (I told my DR this and he was pissy but supportive, but he IS a pill pusher).
    A lot of UK doctors are pill pushers :(
    Mine wanted me to go on Beta blockers as my BP was sometimes on the higher side ...but it was the white coat syndrome mostly!
    But, I can get spells of higher BP when anxious or everyday life is throwing a bit too much at me.

    Anyway, they gave me 50mg Beta Blockers and there was no way I could tolerate them - I was yawning all day, couldn't focus on anything and felt very lethargic. I decided to try taking just 1/4 of a tablet and it worked - I felt no side effects and my BP settled at an acceptable level!
    I don't take them every day though as I hate taking pharmaceutical drugs if I can avoid them. I take them when I feel the need and my BP goes up, and also when I'm due a check up with the doctor/nurse! Works perfectly :)
    The nurse knows that's all I can tolerate and is happy with my BP.

    I wouldn't advise anyone to try this without the agreement of the doctor/nurse though.
     

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    I have a problem like this . my doctor thinks it is svt ( super ventricular tachycardia) I get spells of racing heart rate , i get dizzy and start to panick. It was a lot worse when i was drinking heavily and smoking, so i stopped doing those things, i was scared i was going to have a heart attack. It still happens though , even with my new clean living and pure of heart lifestyle. It happens less frequently and the attacks are not as long . Apparently , according to my doctor, Smoking etc cannot cause an irregular or accelerated heart rhythm disorder , the problem is electrical and is sometimes caused by a crossing of wires if you like , sometimes it is a sign of heart disease but more often than not it isn't. While not the cause of the symptoms , abusing tobacco and alcohol, drugs etc can definitley exacerbate the symptoms . Go to the doctor get an EKG just to be sure

    Yeah, I used to have SVT. But my last episode was years ago. It's under control (knock on wood) with Metoprolol, prescribed by a very good cardiologist. Maybe you should ask your doctor about that.
     
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