Thanks djsvapour, it's a way of keeping my mind occupied, preventing me worrying. I'm feeling a bit lost now he's not here and spending money is always good therapy so long as it's not wasting money. E cigs have opened up a whole new world to me and I'm determined I'm never going back to smoking no matter what happens....I wouldn't spend £2 on an MT3, no.
All the other stuff going on for you and your partner hardly makes buying e-cig stuff relevant, so fingers crossed for you both. Hugs..
Help needed to buy the right e cigarette
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Hi Kaydi,
You are in luck. You started vaping at exactly the right time. Find a shop, either on-line or a B&M that sells the new Kanger Subox kit. It has everything you need, minus only an 18650 battery, a charger for said battery and the e-liquid. This set-up is PERFECT for a new vapor. Find badattude's battery information thread and you are set! Sony VTC4's and LG HE4's are good examples of adequate batteries, just DO NOT buy batteries from eBay or Amazon. illumn.com or orbtronic.com sell both quality batteries and chargers. Get an Xtar or Nitecore charger. Get some e-liquid from Good Life Vapor, Alien Visions, or RoarVapor (just to name a very few) and you are set. I started off with an 18mg strength and I'm down to 6mg. Funny thing....in my opinion, the e-juice flavors taste much better at the lower nicotine strengths. BONUS.
Happy vaping and remember, youtube can be a noobies best friend. You will find a lot of good information there, but it may take a little to sift through the BS. Just take your time, it's worth the investment.
You are in luck. You started vaping at exactly the right time. Find a shop, either on-line or a B&M that sells the new Kanger Subox kit. It has everything you need, minus only an 18650 battery, a charger for said battery and the e-liquid. This set-up is PERFECT for a new vapor. Find badattude's battery information thread and you are set! Sony VTC4's and LG HE4's are good examples of adequate batteries, just DO NOT buy batteries from eBay or Amazon. illumn.com or orbtronic.com sell both quality batteries and chargers. Get an Xtar or Nitecore charger. Get some e-liquid from Good Life Vapor, Alien Visions, or RoarVapor (just to name a very few) and you are set. I started off with an 18mg strength and I'm down to 6mg. Funny thing....in my opinion, the e-juice flavors taste much better at the lower nicotine strengths. BONUS.
Happy vaping and remember, youtube can be a noobies best friend. You will find a lot of good information there, but it may take a little to sift through the BS. Just take your time, it's worth the investment.
Kaydi, if you want to try lowering the strength of any e-liquid, you can buy a small bottle of vegetable Glycerine from most supermarkets for about 50p (you will find it in the baking section) or a larger 100 ml bottle from most chemists. Do bear in mind though that it will also reduce the flavour as well as the nicotine level.
Hi folks, just thought I'd let you all know my partner is home again, rehydrated and his kidneys are working again although they will never be 100% and he is still very weak.
Despite all the stress I haven't had any cigarettes, 17 days now. I bought an Eleaf GS air and an Aspire CE5 and like them both. I especially like the plastic mouth piece on the CE5 and prefer it to the metal one on the nautilus mini. I also bought some lower strength juice which I use in the evening and I'm no longer suffering insomnia. Of all my e juices I actually prefer the Onepoundeliquids which I didn't expect. I bought some 16mg ones from a local shop but even though they are slightly lower in strength than the Onepoundeliquid they make my head woozy. The make is Kik, has anyone had any similar experiences? I tried to check the pg/vg mix but not only does it not say on the bottle it doesn't tell you on their website either! Any comments welcome.
Despite all the stress I haven't had any cigarettes, 17 days now. I bought an Eleaf GS air and an Aspire CE5 and like them both. I especially like the plastic mouth piece on the CE5 and prefer it to the metal one on the nautilus mini. I also bought some lower strength juice which I use in the evening and I'm no longer suffering insomnia. Of all my e juices I actually prefer the Onepoundeliquids which I didn't expect. I bought some 16mg ones from a local shop but even though they are slightly lower in strength than the Onepoundeliquid they make my head woozy. The make is Kik, has anyone had any similar experiences? I tried to check the pg/vg mix but not only does it not say on the bottle it doesn't tell you on their website either! Any comments welcome.
Thanks Maytwin, my stress levels have been through the roof but it's been a good test as I now know nothing will make me go back to smoking. A big thumbs up to e cigs - I couldn't have done it without them.I don't know the liquid Kaydi but just wanted to say congratulations on the 17 days - you're doing brilliantly, especially at such a difficult time
Really pleased to hear your partner is back home Kaydi & well done you 
I've also never heard of the Kik e-liquid. Some folks have an allergy to either/or PG VG, so IMHO it's vital that all e-lquid shows the % on the label.https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/members/kaydi.257982/
I've also never heard of the Kik e-liquid. Some folks have an allergy to either/or PG VG, so IMHO it's vital that all e-lquid shows the % on the label.https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/members/kaydi.257982/
Really good job Kaydi that must've been tough the last several days. If you can handle all of that without a Cig, I can't see anything that you couldn't handle. Good luck and best wishes from us on a speedy recovery of your partner.
Thanks everyone, your support means a lot to me. I was wondering how everyone stores their e juice? I've got mine in a large flat plastic organiser which although good as I can see them all clearly is rather big so I was really pleased when I came across a clear plastic lipstick holder on eBay that holds 24 - seems perfect for holding e juice instead and I just bought two as they are only £2.22 buy it now. Thought I'd share it with you all and hope I've uploaded the photo properly.
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I vape only to replace smoking 8 months ago, and I tried dozens of eliquids to find something like real tobacco, and finally discovered NETs (naturally extracted tobacco) thanks to this forum. For vaping, I want a smooth vape, and don't care for chasing clouds, I wanted taste and flavor. Here's what I started with and where I currently am:
1. Blu egics from the service station - got me started off cigs, but not totally. battery life too short, flavor soso.
2. A pen type atomizer kit from Vaporfi, and their eliquids, not bad, this got me off cigarettes.
3. Kangertech dual bottom coil EMOW kit @ $50- liked it at first, but the flavor from it wasn't as good as my Vaporfi pens. Battery stopped working after a couple of months, though i put it aside and went back the the Vaporfi pens for the flavor.
4.CE5+ Ego style blister pack "starter kit" clearomizer, $9.95 (650 ma hr) total from Goodejuice Search - CE5+
replacement cartridge in a tank style coils, .49 cents each. Love the flavor, don't hold a lot of juice, not the greatest quality, some gurgling on ocassion (blow it out gently, not a problem) replace coils every 2 to 3 days. worth it to me for the great flavor.
5. Asplire Nautilus Mini, BVC cotton coils - better flavor than the Kangertech EMOW - still a slight metallic taste, I think it could be the metal drip tip, will change it out soon for a non-metal one.
Verdict so far, the cheap CE5+ clearomizers, lol. By far the best flavor, which insn't suprising to me since cartomizers (cartridge style ecigs) are known for delivering good flavor, and the CE5+ is like a cartridge in a small tank. They call the CE5+ "wickless", but its not, the cotton wick (appears to be cotton) is inside the replaceable .49 cent cartridge.
I would love to hear from anyone who knows of a high quality cartridge in a tank style clearomizer.
1. Blu egics from the service station - got me started off cigs, but not totally. battery life too short, flavor soso.
2. A pen type atomizer kit from Vaporfi, and their eliquids, not bad, this got me off cigarettes.
3. Kangertech dual bottom coil EMOW kit @ $50- liked it at first, but the flavor from it wasn't as good as my Vaporfi pens. Battery stopped working after a couple of months, though i put it aside and went back the the Vaporfi pens for the flavor.
4.CE5+ Ego style blister pack "starter kit" clearomizer, $9.95 (650 ma hr) total from Goodejuice Search - CE5+
replacement cartridge in a tank style coils, .49 cents each. Love the flavor, don't hold a lot of juice, not the greatest quality, some gurgling on ocassion (blow it out gently, not a problem) replace coils every 2 to 3 days. worth it to me for the great flavor.
5. Asplire Nautilus Mini, BVC cotton coils - better flavor than the Kangertech EMOW - still a slight metallic taste, I think it could be the metal drip tip, will change it out soon for a non-metal one.
Verdict so far, the cheap CE5+ clearomizers, lol. By far the best flavor, which insn't suprising to me since cartomizers (cartridge style ecigs) are known for delivering good flavor, and the CE5+ is like a cartridge in a small tank. They call the CE5+ "wickless", but its not, the cotton wick (appears to be cotton) is inside the replaceable .49 cent cartridge.
I would love to hear from anyone who knows of a high quality cartridge in a tank style clearomizer.
Got this from their website:
- Each nicotine strength contains a different ratio of PG to VG. Please see the list below
24mg Strength = 65% PG / 35% VG
18mg Strength = 60% PG / 40% VG
12mg Strength = 50% PG / 50% VG
6mg Strength = 45% PG / 55% VG
0mg Strength = 40% PG / 60% VG
If you think the nic content is too high in your juice, then I wold go back to the local shop and get their opinion on it. It does happen from time to time that bottles get mis-labeled or mis mixed.
According to the onepound, they also might mix in some distilled water. That helps mellow out the liquid overall. so it might be the distilled water that mellows it out. Even just a few drops in the bottle can dramatically change the overall juice.
As far as KIK goes... something doesn't sit right with me when I look at their website. I look at their info, and it says their nicotine is extracted from a nicotine plant... there is no such thing as a nicotine plant. Tobacco has the highest concentration of nicotine, dwarfing some other well known plants that contain nicotine, like Eggplant, Tomatoes and potatoes. I would assume that Kik means tobacco, but doesn't want to say it (even though it's ok in my opinion). It's their lack of information that worries me. Kik promises all organic, Pure PG, Pure VG, etc.. they tell nothing about certifications. There are different qualities of PG/VG and Nicotine, and Kik doesn't tell of the quality rating. (Is it USPS (aka food grade)?)
Personally, Just by viewing what I've seen on both sites, I would tend to lean towards onepound.
I personally like the Kanger Subtank series. They offer a 1.2 ohm and a .5 ohm version of the coil heads, but most people prefer the .5 ohms. It is a bottom coil design, and doesn't require the juice to travel far to the coil. The coils themselves are much larger than a CE5. I used to use CE5's, and I used to recoil them. I now use a Subtank nano and recoil those. The CE5's have a much smaller coil, and much thinner wire than the Subtank. The subtank really does shine with a device that can provide more power. Both the CE5 and the subtank are relatively leak free, but the subtank shines in the airflow option. The CE5 is a tight draw.. you literally have to work to get vapor from it. The subtank can have three options, but even the lowest is still more of an airflow compared to a ce5. The other real big winner, is that the CE5 is made of plastic.... I have about 20 broken CE3/CE4/CE5 plastic tanks and am down to two last remaining CE5's I use for "nostalgic" reasons.
As fas as the drip tip goes.. you can get plastic/ceramic/metal/glass drip tips to suit your feel on any mod that has a dripper on it. I actually prefer a flat mouth, but have only seen a suitable flat mouth tip on a CE5. My current favorite drip tip is a vase style drip tip, but I don't have one in plastic... yet....
Hey thanks for the feedback Neal, I really appreciate it. I have actually been considering the Kanger Subtank OCC, at 1.2 ohms.. I don't care for big clouds, or open draws though - my Kanger EMOW dual bottom coil was variable as well, and i used it on the lowest air hole setting usually. I prefer a tighter draw (like a cigarette), as I do mouth hits, not lung hits. Have you tried an Aspire Nautilus or Mini with BVC cotton coils (I have this as well)? If so, how does that compare in flavor with the Kanger Subtank OCC? One thing i don't care for are "hot" vapes, and my Kanger EMOW was a little warmer than I cared for unless I opened up more air, and then the clouds were pitiful, and the flavor lost (I thought it tended to have a bit of a metallic taste as well). The Aspire Nautilus Mini with BVC OCC is better for flavor in my opinion, but still i want something as good as the CE5, and you sound happy with the Subtank - how do you rate flavor with it?[/QUOTE]
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Just broke out the old trusty CE5 to compare airflows. I just got the kanger subtank mini today, so I am trying it out as well. The airflow of the Subtank fully closed is about the same as the CE5. Even fully closed, a tiny bit of air comes between the airflow control ring on the subtank. I have a .5 ohm coil, and I lowered it to 15w (3.0V). Flavor wise, it's much better than the CE5. I'm using an old coil in the CE5, but the flavor is so dramatically different even at that low setting, that I doubt even with a new coil, the CE5 would perform better. I have a lemon bar cake flavor in the tank, and the lemon flavor is so pronounced in the subtank, it tickles my nose. On the CE5, it smells like lemon, but doesn't tickle. The one airhole setting on the kanger is what I call max for a mouth to lung inhale. It's not something I recommend for mouth to lung inhales, but it's still too tight for direct lung inhales. The two and full open settings are for direct to lung inhales.
... this is the first time I've tried to vape with the subtank fully closed.
I haven't tried the Nautilus tanks. I used a protank for a while and got disheartened with Aspire. I'm a firm kangertech fan now.
That's not to say Aspire makes good products or designs, it's just I haven't tried them lately... vape budgets. You have done well! Those holders are made in Korea and are about £2 to buy. They would cost £10 to post though. Bargain!
I know of Kik, of course. Not exactly ground-breaking e-cig kit or liquid. They joined the band wagon a while back and started advertising on telly. The hardware USED TO BE all clones and should be avoided. The liquid is fine... if you like it.
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Interesting you say something doesn't sit right with the Kik website as I feel the same. I find it very strange there is no mention of the pg/vg mix in their juice either on the bottles or on the website and found the site amateurish. I didn't know there is no such thing as a nicotine plant but they should have!! I've stopped using the Kik juice because of what it does to my head and I'm going to complain when I go to the store again as it was £19 wasted. The young lad who runs the Kik stall in my local store admitted he doesn't understand about pg/vg mixing!
Really glad I bought the holders now then. It will make finding the juice much easier and I'll be able to label the holders to see the strengths at a glance.You have done well! Those holders are made in Korea and are about £2 to buy. They would cost £10 to post though. Bargain!
I know of Kik, of course. Not exactly ground-breaking e-cig kit or liquid. They joined the band wagon a while back and started advertising on telly. The hardware is all clones and should be avoided. The liquid is fine... if you like it.
But you've worried me about Kik selling clones as that's where I bought my 20w istick! It has worked fine so far although I'm having to charge it every day. Once the battery level goes just below half way I find I can't vape properly. I thought it was something wrong with the tank at first but once I charged the battery it vaped fine again. The young lad running the Kik stall did say to take it back if I had any problems with it. What do you think?
You'll be 100% OK. Kik are keen to get on with business and wouldn't dare sell a clone iStick. If they wanted to do that, they would not call it iStick, for sure.
In fact, they have started calling most of their known-to-me products "Kanger", which is a kind of strange move, but I approve. Why strange?.. because it was obvious they were Kanger (or from the same factories, as Kanger just 'assemble' many of their items). So, now that are calling stuff Kanger or Eleaf, then people can google to see if the prices are any good.
Half the problem in this business is companies selling Kanger or Aspire or Innokin products with their own logo. One of the top USA brands sells a $40 Kanger e-cig for $120 by having their own logo engraved on it and saying "we make all our own products".
A top US brand sells a chunky cig-a-like battery to UK people for £28. It's a basic battery you and me could buy for £3.70 from China or £7.50 in a UK shop. £28! hard to stomach.
Brand stores are terrible, but it appears Kik have decided to stop being greedy and start selling at a half decent price. They are selling a £20 kit for £30, but that's not like asking £28 for a £7.50 battery. Not bad.
(still wouldn't shop there though...)
Have you read the earlier post about Kik by NealBjr? They state their nicotine is extracted from a nicotine plant but there is no such thing!You'll be 100% OK. Kik are keen to get on with business and wouldn't dare sell a clone iStick. If they wanted to do that, they would not call it iStick, for sure.
In fact, they have started calling most of their known-to-me products "Kanger", which is a kind of strange move, but I approve. Why strange?.. because it was obvious they were Kanger (or from the same factories, as Kanger just 'assemble' many of their items). So, now that are calling stuff Kanger or Eleaf, then people can google to see if the prices are any good.
Half the problem in this business is companies selling Kanger or Aspire or Innokin products with their own logo. One of the top USA brands sells a $40 Kanger e-cig for $120 by having their own logo engraved on it and saying "we make all our own products".
A top US brand sells a chunky cig-a-like battery to UK people for £28. It's a basic battery you and me could buy for £3.70 from China or £7.50 in a UK shop. £28! hard to stomach.
Brand stores are terrible, but it appears Kik have decided to stop being greedy and start selling at a half decent price. They are selling a £20 kit for £30, but that's not like asking £28 for a £7.50 battery. Not bad.
(still wouldn't shop there though...)
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