Help - Will partner know?

[DaveP]

The aroma of the juice in the bottle will be foretelling of the scent of the vapor. My wife tried vaping and didn't care for it, then quit cigs using Wellbutrin. Now, she tells me some of my juices have stinky aromas and others smell like caramel, cotton candy, or nothing at all. Generally, I don't hear comments from her unless I try something new and it smells funny to her.

People generally hate smoking because of the smell and because it caused medical issues with someone they know. vaping has yet to be tagged with any medical downsides. Maybe we won't know for 20 years if there are long term effects, but most analytic results have given it a clean bill of health, at least no worse than standing on a street and inhaling the air from fossil fuel exhaust and other environmental contributions to the air we breathe, maybe even better than most sources of pollution. The Pennsylvania Drexel School of Medicine study recently published declared that spectrographic analysis showed all tests with EPA limits. That's not even close to true for tobacco cigarettes.

 

[DaveP]

The CASAA funded study by Drexel University shows no alarming revelations from vaping, for those who are interested in reading the results.

http://publichealth.drexel.edu/~/media/files/publichealth/ms08.pdf

 

[Don Robertson]

It's so long folks won't read it all most likely. Perhaps a taste will kick the curious part into action:

Key Conclusions:

 Even when compared to workplace standards for involuntary exposures, and using several conservative (erring
on the side of caution) assumptions, the exposures from using e-cigarettes fall well below the threshold for
concern for compounds with known toxicity. That is, even ignoring the benefits of e-cigarette use and the fact
that the exposure is actively chosen, and even comparing to the levels that are considered unacceptable to
people who are not benefiting from the exposure and do not want it, the exposures would not generate concern
or call for remedial action.

 Expressed concerns about nicotine only apply to vapers who do not wish to consume it; a voluntary (indeed,
intentional) exposure is very different from a contaminant.

 There is no serious concern about the contaminants such as volatile organic compounds (formaldehyde,
acrolein, etc.) in the liquid or produced by heating. While these contaminants are present, they have been
detected at problematic levels only in a few studies that apparently were based on unrealistic levels of heating.

 The frequently stated concern about contamination of the liquid by a nontrivial quantity of ethylene glycol or
diethylene glycol remains based on a single sample of an early technology product (and even this did not rise to
the level of health concern) and has not been replicated.

 Tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNA) are present in trace quantities and pose no more (likely much less) threat
to health than TSNAs from modern smokeless tobacco products, which cause no measurable risk for cancer.

 Contamination by metals is shown to be at similarly trivial levels that pose no health risk, and the alarmist claims
about such contamination are based on unrealistic assumptions about the molecular form of these elements.

 The existing literature tends to overestimate the exposures and exaggerate their implications. This is partially
due to rhetoric, but also results from technical features. The most important is confusion of the concentration
in aerosol, which on its own tells us little about risk to heath, with the relevant and much smaller total exposure
to compounds in the aerosol averaged across all air inhaled in the course of a day. There is also clear bias in
previous reports in favor of isolated instances of highest level of chemical detected across multiple studies, such
that average exposure that can be calculated are higher than true value because they are “missing” all true
zeros.

 Routine monitoring of liquid chemistry is easier and cheaper than assessment of aerosols. Combined with an
understanding of how the chemistry of the liquid affects the chemistry of the aerosol and insights into behavior
of vapers, this can serve as a useful tool to ensure the safety of e-cigarettes.

 The only unintentional exposures (i.e., not the nicotine) that seem to rise to the level that they are worth further
research are the carrier chemicals themselves, propylene glycol and glycerin. This exposure is not known to
cause health problems, but the magnitude of the exposure is novel and thus is at the levels for concern based on
the lack of reassuring data.

*** There is a lot of additional information contained in the report. Well worth a look when it comes time to chat with the friends and relatives wildly waiving their arms, gasping and muttering that "second hand smoke" is killing them right in middle of the wide open spaces.


Senile Old Man Don

 

[Don Robertson]

The best possible answer I can give to the op is to dump him as fast as possible. lol

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ......... I missed this one in my first pass! A kinder, more subtle way to suggest this might come in the from of:



http://www.match.com/ I jest ........... 'jest'.


Female - Attractive - Well educated - Social Drinker - Recreational Drugs - Vaping instead of smoking - Smoking in many other ways - Have hair (any color you like - Eyes (same as hair - contacts work wonders) - Between 5'7" and whatever flips your switch - Financially secure - Potentially a Cougar - Seeks man 25 to Depends on what ya look like - Employed - Must not be a throat-sniffer (other locations are fine) - Sweet - Kind - Gentle - Masculine - Non-Bible-Banger OR Avid-Bible-Banger if REALLY financially secure - Other points can be worked out.

Senile Old Man Donnie ............ needs nursie to give him his medications NOW!

 

[Ohms Lawbreaker]

Wife has asthma and can't stand much smoke. Never complains about vapor though. For me, I'm sure smoking has ruined more walls and clothes with stink than my vapor consumption. Vapor does linger, but not as much as smoke. Dissipates more quickly. Tobacco smoke also has a definite stain factor; vaping seems not as much.

 

[WileECoyote]

Jesus, does he complain about the food you eat too? I am sure if you vape, a good ol mouth was will work pretty well. I know my house does not smell like smoke anymore and my clothes don't either. I would just find one that he says smells pleasant and you like to vape. Compromise compromise compromise.

 

[lmkucala]

My husband has a VERY sensitive sense of smell and cannot stand me smoking real cigs around him. I never smoked int he house or car or around him.

A couple of times when I started vaping in the house, he walked in after and asked if I had been smoking my ecig. He said it smelled but it did not smell bad. Last night I asked him if I vaped in the car would it smell. He said it might but it does not bother him at all so go ahead!

So - it's a COMPLETELY different thing. I think they just need to get used to the idea that it is not cigarettes - and then they are fine (mostly).

 

[DaveP]

To the OP ... there are so many positive things about vaping that this thread will go far. Think of all the down sides of smoking and vaping begins to look like a shining light in the face of darkness. It keeps you off the cigarettes and that's what your SO hates. It's not smoking any more than using Nicorette gum and it's lots more satisfying for a recovering smoker.

One of the nice parts about vaping is that you can buy a new car and not have it stinking in the first month after purchase. 8 months after my buying a new pickup it still has remnants of that new car smell, especially in warm weather when the sun has baked it a little.

My fingers just smell like skin and my clothes closet smells like, well ... like clothes and shoes. Six months after my wife quit smoking the house finally lost that last little smoke residue odor.

I'm not sure whether that little film on the inside of the windshield that glows when headlights illuminate it at night can be attributed to PG vapor residue or whether it's because I only clean the inside when that film appears. Maybe I should do the inside clean when I vacuum it out at the car wash.

It's only a quick Windex wipe to get clear glass again, anyway.

 

[partyannimal]

I really think this is one of those "everyone's different" and all juices are different too situations. My bf used to love when I puffed on my pre-loaded chocolate cartos when I started with a cig-alike (he swore they smelled like chocolate pop tarts). Several leaps and bounds later I'm puffing on a bigger, more powerful PV and puff only DIY juice. The majority of my flavors are from TFA and he insists none of them have much of a scent besides the "vapor" smell (whatever that is). He is in no way a good source for feedback when I make a new juice because he gets a kick out of saying they all smell like ... lol. He's only recently smelled anything when I tried a caramel/waffle juice that he said smelled like maple. Maybe you should try some TFA DIY mixes with anything but waffle or caramel lol. I don't smell anything most of the time (sometimes I think it's all in my head when I think I do), but I think like another poster said, a smoker/vaper doesn't always smell what people around us do. I wish you luck, your guy should have a chat with mine lol. My guy doesn't get vaping, but he's happy I don't puff the stinkies anymore.


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[cowbooger88]

My boyfriend isn't a smoker never has been. He hated that I smoked. I've been vaping and he actually doesn't even mind me doing it around him, as long as I'm not blowing in his face. I only use fruity flavors. But even my customers say I smell good now

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[Lolli]

If he loves you, he will love the smell of vape in the morning

 

[Bunnykiller]

if he continues to fuss... eat more protien and beans then ask him whats all the stink is about

 

[ShariR]

I have had several people tell me that Halo's Belgium Cocoa smells terrible and nasty. My hubby also does not like the smell of my NLV Gold which is a maply tobacco.

I will say, I absolutely love Belgian cocoa from halo and it tastes like an expensive coffee shop hot cocoa, but my husband says it smells like a dirty gym bag and he can smell it for a while in the room I was in, but not necessarily on me

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[ZeroOhms]

I didn't want to go through 7 pages of thread, so apologies if this is a duplicate.
Smell from vapor is mainly depended on the juice. You can either get a juice without any taste (hence no smell) or find a juice with flavor that your partner likes. During the day, I usually smell like either coffee or chocolate. Can't see anybody having problem with that.

 

[cturboaddict]

I say, he should be happy your shooting for something else. Atleast your trying!

 

[URthe101]

My partner didn't know I was Vaping for months and I was using and still am a very strong menthol. She would just think I brushed my teeth or was chewing Minty gum lol

 

[DaveP]

Sense of smell is pretty individual and in degrees of acuteness, but caramel, cotton candy, and most dessert flavors will get a positive response. Tobacco flavors that are some variation of RY4 will get good reception because of the vanilla and caramel flavors they contain. It depends on the source of the juice. Not all RY4 is the same.

 

[AmandaD]

Tribeca must not smell much....you can - ahem - stealth vape on a plane in your seat and nobody seems to notice. Just sayin'

 

[WillyZee]

He's okay with me vaping, but wants me to avoid doing it around him

Tell him to grow up.

 

[DaveP]

Tribeca must not smell much....you can - ahem - stealth vape on a plane in your seat and nobody seems to notice. Just sayin'

If I were to stealth vape on a plane, it would have to be using a cheapo that I didn't mind losing to detection and confiscation. I still don't see why a hit here and there is considered unallowable on a plane. It must have been the jealous cigarette smokers who wanted it gone.

I remember the good old days when smoking on a plane was common place. It was inconsiderate of us, but they even had lighted signs to let you know when you could.