High drain batteries, talk to me...

[forcedfuel50]

Good information, i read the last few pages and it seems most everyone is in agreement that they dont' see any difference, in fact some of them state they think the regular 18650's last longer. From my armchair analysis, this is what i suspected and would have speculated upon.

It's much like my old Miller Syncrowave 250 Tig welder , though my shop was also wired for 440volts, i only needed 220volts to run it, the extra was not needed.

Is my logic flawed?

 

[Pete54]

I have to disagree with RedRhino. I've only read one post of one LR Atty dying and he was using the "infamous" waffle juice. I have been using the same LR Atty for about 2 weeks now and it still works great. In fact, I haven't been using any HV mods since receiving it. You could always make it with an interchangable sleeve allowing for a small compact 3.7v unit that can be converted into a HV unit if needed.
Just my 2 cants.

 

[redrhino]

No David your Logic is not Flawed at all......But try to read all of the POSTS BY DaMulta the OP on that Thread....He actually Talks about the batts in real detail....Like Volts, how long the Batts actually lasted (in real time frame )....I'm not a technical guy at all..... But the OP on the thread really gets in to detail about those batts.....

 

[forcedfuel50]

I better do my homework and go read all 20 pages

 

[redrhino]

I better do my homework and go read all 20 pages

LOL Good Luck

 

[gatsby]

Funny that we are talking about LoRes atties and High Drain batteries in the same thread since the only time I really see any effect of the high drain batteries is with the loRes atomizers. I think for the LoRes atties the high drain is almost a must, but for regular atomizers the difference is probably only in things we don't necessarily notice right away like long term battery life (since they are pretty cheap this doesn't concern me a ton). One thing though is that the LiMN high drains are suposed to be much safer for stacking so I would think that if this big boy mod is going to fit 2 cr123s as well they should be high drain. Personally I have been using the high drain drain 16340 batts with a LoRes atomizer in my T1 for the last 5 days and its pretty damn nice IMO.

 

[redrhino]

Double Post sorry

 

[redrhino]

I have to disagree with RedRhino. I've only read one post of one LR Atty dying and he was using the "infamous" waffle juice. I have been using the same LR Atty for about 2 weeks now and it still works great. In fact, I haven't been using any HV mods since receiving it. You could always make it with an interchangable sleeve allowing for a small compact 3.7v unit that can be converted into a HV unit if needed.
Just my 2 cants.

Pete54 Just for the record I'm not being Combative here at all....Just Stating Facts.... I actually tried one of those LR attys My self..... So this is coming first hand.....As a matter of fact it's the same atty that came with a certain wood mod.... Some members call it the Woody.....Everyone knows that I only vape HV Mods at least on this forum they do...So when i had an opportunity to try the Woody with the LR atty on it.... I Jumped on it..... After about 30 hours of use the atty Poped......Now I would say that, I'm an experienced PV user....So i doubt it was user error....But then again i could be wrong....Hope you are not misinterpreting what i said here or in my previous Post....I have no issues with the LR atty since all i use is a 510 HV atty on my PV's and cartos when i drive since it's kind of hard to drip on the freeway....
And all i did, was Just Point out some LR atty concerns to David

 

[gatsby]

Not much more than 5 minutes after my post my LR atty seems to have gone cold. You all cursed me. It is more than 1 report though. There are a couple on other forums too.

 

[redrhino]

One thing though is that the LiMN high drains are suposed to be much safer for stacking so I would think that if this big boy mod is going to fit 2 cr123s as well they should be high drain.

Can we buy RCR 123a in high drain? I had no idea RCR123 batts were even available in High Drain....

 

[forcedfuel50]

Funny that we are talking about LoRes atties and High Drain batteries in the same thread since the only time I really see any effect of the high drain batteries is with the loRes atomizers. I think for the LoRes atties the high drain is almost a must, but for regular atomizers the difference is probably only in things we don't necessarily notice right away like long term battery life (since they are pretty cheap this doesn't concern me a ton). One thing though is that the LiMN high drains are suposed to be much safer for stacking so I would think that if this big boy mod is going to fit 2 cr123s as well they should be high drain. Personally I have been using the high drain drain 16340 batts with a LoRes atomizer in my T1 for the last 5 days and its pretty damn nice IMO.

Do you have a link to these high drain 16340's? I'll do up a mod on my break tonight for them.

 

[spaky]

Do you have a link to these high drain 16340's? I'll do up a mod on my break tonight for them.

http://www.lighthound.com/AW-IMR163...LiMN-Rechargeable-Lithium-Battery_p_2626.html

 

[raqball]

i wasn't going too, i ordered that one by mistake, not realizing it was a flat top, so rest assured;-)

Here is an awesome AW battery...

AW 18650 Protected 2200 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery

 

[redrhino]

AW IMR16340 550 mAh IMR CR123 size LiMN Rechargeable Lithium Battery

That is a winner right there

Thanks for the link spaky277

 

[redrhino]

Here is an awesome AW battery...

AW 18650 Protected 2200 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery

OK..... Second Place winner for you 3.7 Volt lovers

 

[spaky]

That is a winner right there

Thanks for the link spaky277

No problem. I should be getting my order in the mail tomorrow. I have that battery plus the AW 3V lifepo4 for 6V and the AW 750 mAh lithion. I'm trying to find the best batts for my vaping. I had high hopes for the IMR 18650s, but they just don't seem to be much better than the Ultrafires. Maybe after they're out a while and get higher mAh ratings they might be a better buy.

ETA: Lighthound is a pretty awesome place to order from. Their prices are good and the shipping is fast! Also they added a free super bright key chain LED for free.

 

[grimmer255]

I'll try to make it to also fit the Ultrafires, i mean, those are still a good battery for the money and you can vape a damn long time on them.

But my real concerns are, will a battery such as these vape just as well as say, a 15 amp continuous discharge battery? I think i've read most atomizers are only a couple amps. Seems like overkill.

I agree it does seem like an overkill. Unless you were running 4 atties at the same time then i can the use for those batteries.

but i did hear that they are some what safer. some kind of new vents and some other add on's that make it safer... but its still the same formula.... it just doesn't add up to what they say is true about those batteries being safer.

 

[jwquantrell]

Hey there,

I currently have the high drain 18650's and I have 3 of the low volt atomizers on the way to me as I type this.

I will let you know what I think once I have tried them out.

As far as the high drains themselves on a normal atomizer I can say... meh. It is no better than a Tornado battery imho. I much prefer 6 volts.

 

[BrockJ]

I use the High AMP 14500's and on those I see a difference in voltage flow (amount of vapor at a more constant rate) but not so much with the larger 18650's

I ordered some of the 16340 high drains for the T1 so we'll see in a day or so...
Should be here tomorrow or Thursday..

I think the evolution in Lithium base batteries is changing period.
It did with the large remote helicopters so this field is sure to follow.

Bad thing is, every six months or so we see the next leap in MAH's and C ratings. Seems like the recipe keeps getting pushed to the next level.

The key is to build something that will accomidate the next few quantum leaps and be around for a while.
So many custom PV's will start to fade away due to the tolerances and limitations on what batts they can hold..

The differences between the two 18650's above is a perfect example

 

[Pete54]

Hey redrhino, I don't think you're being combative at all. I hope I didn't come across that way. I simply had only read about one instance of a LR Atty popping. It seems, from your post as well as another that there are several instances of problems. Maybe I'm just a lucky guy. I've actually only had 2 atty's die on me since September!