-High-End Mechanicals and Atomizers-Pictures & Discussion Round 2-

[jpcwon]

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I just went back to find that post, and it's gone. I've seen it happen before in that group when a negative post gets deleted (and I'm not talking about abusive posts). It's hard for me to be a big fan of a modder who has something to hide and I think that when you surround yourself with fanboys and only drink their Kool-Aid that it's hard for it not to go to your head.

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Well that ain't cool....I don't like that very much at all.

And what's more interesting, is that Barbaros just emailed back....he said that "he has no problem with AW 18490" and directed me to PM some guy in his FB group if I want to pursue it further. Problem is, I don't do FB!! It's a long story, but basically I can't be bothered....

So he's not acknowledging the problem with me either......kinda frustrating.....

 

[BILLB OKC]

Well, I think I got the Anatolian to fire with the 510 Top Cap. However, I have to literally unscrew the center pin down to its last thread to get rid of battery rattle! I am emailing Barbaros right now to ask him what kind of battery he recommends for use with the Anatolian, because the AW 18490 seems to be too short....maybe it's just my mod? not sure...

Other than that it is VERY nice. There is no locking mechanism on the mod so you have to be careful....Any rda I've put on in hybrid mode looks KILLER....I am defintiely warming up to this mod!!

I just tried my 500 and got the same results.
I have been using mine with the Heron.

 

[jpcwon]

I just tried my 500 and got the same results.
I have been using mine with the Heron.

Gotcha. Thanks for trying, Bill! I am not too worried about it, as I will likely use either a Heron or the Hybrid Adapter 99% of the time. I mean the mod WILL fire with the 510 top cap, but the center post needs to be extended out basically to the last nanometer before it falls out....

I wish Barbaros would at least write back and say "yeah, we're aware of that".....but instead it was basically "I don't know what you're talking about".....

 

[FictitiousFreedom]

You will love the xxix. According to jkuro who does the voltage drop tests on cv, the xxix (well the bfm also) is the most conductive mod out there. In his testing there was. 000 voltage drop. Meaning it was below his measurable threshold and as far as I know other than the bfm is the only mod tested so far that can claim that. I've never vaped anything that hits as hard as those two mods.

The xxix does have super low vd because there is no top pin, its straight from atty to battery. I have a changeling by Olympus creations and its just ad good imo, I don't have a multi meter but its low. You also have to understand vd, its used more of a marketing ploy with most mods, there are so many variables that it will always be different. The most accurate measurement is just the mod and a battery but the resistance of the battery is still a big variable. There is no such thing as 0 vd but there are mods that are on another level, conductivity wise, bcv mods being some of them.

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[Vapourz_411]

The xxix does have super low vd because there is no top pin, its straight from atty to battery. I have a changeling by Olympus creations and its just ad good imo, I don't have a multi meter but its low. You also have to understand vd, its used more of a marketing ploy with most mods, there are so many variables that it will always be different. The most accurate measurement is just the mod and a battery but the resistance of the battery is still a big variable. There is no such thing as 0 vd but there are mods that are on another level, conductivity wise, bcv mods being some of them.

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Thank you for the info...I used to think that when people said that the mod "hit like a freight train" that it would not be a significant difference and that it wouldn't make a significant impact on overall performance or quality of vape. However, since I have become an owner of many high end mods I have come to believe that my original opinion was ignorant. The truth IMO is that conductivity can fluctuate dramatically even though both mods might be well built with good quality materials and it will effect vape quality. I think that the overall design, particularly the switch and top cap, the kind, quality and placement of materials used, tolerances on the threads, size and materials used for battery contacts all play a part in overall conductivity. I have never measured the differences but I can see when building my coils how quickly and how bright they glow from one mod to the next, and for me that is a sign of the mod's conductivity. I have mods that are great quality but are much less conductive which is fine, I just adjust the build and use less wraps or lower gauge wire for the coils.

Very excited to try the XXIX, I have heard many good things about how well it performs, and I'll have to check out the changeling by Olympus Creations

 

[JohnnyEars]

Anatolian w/Veritas RDA in Hybrid Mode. I don't know how I feel about the Anatolian. I just got it today. I cannot get the mod to fire without using the Hybrid connector. When I use the regular 510 Top Cap, there is excessive battery rattle even with the pins extended out all the way. I am using AW 18490 batteries in the mod and I also tried an Efest 18500 - same deal. I am going to play with it some more and hopefully get it to work. If not, then back it goes.....

EDIT: I just saw that Anatolian is on Holiday for the next 2 months....Guess I'll have to use it as-is. The good news is that a Heron works Excellent on it!!

You could try a magnet on the battery to extend the length a little, you can get them in a whole range of different thickness's.

 

[Herfalerf]

The xxix does have super low vd because there is no top pin, its straight from atty to battery. I have a changeling by Olympus creations and its just ad good imo, I don't have a multi meter but its low. You also have to understand vd, its used more of a marketing ploy with most mods, there are so many variables that it will always be different. The most accurate measurement is just the mod and a battery but the resistance of the battery is still a big variable. There is no such thing as 0 vd but there are mods that are on another level, conductivity wise, bcv mods being some of them.

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I think you misunderstood me. . 000 vd in the case of jkuros tests simply means it's too low for him to read, not that it has no vd. His tests do not include a battery or an atomizer. He just puts current through the device and measures the voltage drop. This takes out every variable other than the mod itself. He has custom built testing equipment to accomplish this. He has tested many mods, most are sent in from curious owners, but some come from the modders themselves. You can find the charts he has made of all mods tested on calivapers. It's interesting, especially once you realize how close everything that's been coming out lately is. Almost all stuff produced in the past year is under. 05 vd. It's pretty funny to see stuff like the gg posting up . 2 though. Kinda makes you wonder if a person can really tell the difference between . 01vd and . 001

 

[sparc]

Paps v3(18350) with Stillare v2i

 

[vapero]

Paps v3(18350) with Stillare v2i

it looks like he would like to go outside

 

[sparc]

lol, to vape freely in public

 

[XxtremeV2]

Tobh Atty V2.0 and V2.5. I love them both. But for me i like V2.5 a bit more of bigger air holes and new cool engraving Logo.

 

[jpcwon]

Tobh Atty V2.0 and V2.5. I love them both. But for me i like V2.5 a bit more of bigger air holes and new cool engraving Logo.

I'm pretty pumped as I have both on the way. I ordered a v2.5 from Vaporologie a few days ago, and today I managed to score a mint cond. used v2.0 off of Ebay....I probably overpaid for the 2.0, but it comes with a Tobh Drip Tip so I guess it's worth it.....

Nice pics, btw!!

 

[icemanistheking]

 

[Dave7x]

Yeah, that's something to think about. Unfortunately I DO Sub-Ohm with my drippers (usually .6 - .8 Ohms), so I don't know about a fuse..

I was able to get my Patriot to fire on the mod using the 510 conn, but could not get my Veritas or my Quasar to fire. It's weird because the Hybrid adapter works awesome. And I actually prefer the hybrid look, so I likely won't use the 510 top cap all that much anyway.

But you know how when something's new you want it to work right out of the box? With this, not so much...The battery tube is definitely too long, because you have to extend the center pin WAAAY out down to the last thread to get the battery to just barely stop rattling....

I am going to try sanding down the insulator a bit, as the delrin is too long and "blocks" the silver pin from poking through the top to make contact with my attys (sounds like same prob. you had)

Thanks for the tips, Firestorm!!

I just emailed Barbaros to see if he has any recommendations to resolve these issues. I told him I love the mod, I just want it to work properly...I was very nice about it (not like the guy in the FB group)....

man that really sucks your having that problem. I got the 18650 tube and ive had no problem at all, no battery rattle, no firing issues. I did have some gunk on some of the threads but that was easy enough to remove. The only regret I have is not getting the hybrid adapter. I absolutely love it!!!!

 

[Dave7x]

I'm gonna check mine when I get home and see if mine is also backed all the way out. I know it fires fine and doesnt have battery rattle but not for sure if its backed all the way out or not. I did notice that the battery rattle adjustment pin is rather loose but I have other high end mods that are also like that, like the poldiac pin is also loose. Ill post later when I check it out.

 

[jarreddizzle]

So, this box mod lover has finally decided to spring for a traditional mechanical. I have seen lots of great pics of the 4nine and the BCV XXIX but came across the Trinity Copper by iHybrid. I prefer the single tube design over the modular, but still love the form factor that the 4nine offers...

I have reservations about the Trinity because I have a feeling the switch will be a let down, the 4nine has a known temperamental switch and the BCV XXIX is simple it seems too simple for the money. (I can hear it now, "Go back to box mods")

Just wanted to see what people who actually own and use these mechanicals had to say.

I love my XXIX. Great mod. 4nines are awesome too, haven't experienced problems with the ones I've used. I can't fault my Nemesis' though. Great mods.

 

[jpcwon]

man that really sucks your having that problem. I got the 18650 tube and ive had no problem at all, no battery rattle, no firing issues. I did have some gunk on some of the threads but that was easy enough to remove. The only regret I have is not getting the hybrid adapter. I absolutely love it!!!!

Oh it's a great, hard-hitting mod don't get me wrong..I have been using it for the past 2 days with my Veritas in Hybrid Mode and it works awesome....it's just the 510 top cap that was giving me some trouble....

I love the hybrid look so I prob won't use the top cap too much, but I am going to fiddle with it some more to see if I can get a better connection.....

 

[Madmullet]

My newest High end set up the copper Overdose mod and a Media blasted Tugboat aka The LeakyBoat.

 

[Tbev]

Hey does anyone know if I can run a surfrider (BC I prefer ss) or any BCV button on a paps lux tube, I've got 2 2.5 lux's and I want to try a BCV switch out but I don't want to trade one lux 2.5 switch and find out it doesn't work on my tube, I also have a ghost modder18650 brass tube that I'm running a lux 2.5 switch n cap on, it's a couple mm shorter than the paps tube both 650's, and no problems.

Thanks.

 

[alkaiser]

BCV surfrider/xxix buttons will work perfectly on any paps tube or any other 20x1 tube.