Hmmm somehow vaping suppresses our immune system compared to..

[barbs]

Guys,

Chanced upon this link last night man.

E-cigs shut down hundreds of immune system genes—regular cigs don’t

I am happy vaping and now I read this. Was wondering if it was addressed by anyone knowledgeable?

I hope it's not true man.

 

[Steamix]

There's a thread going on about that article already...

Somehow this suppressing thingie doesn't fit right with the fact that many vapers have less issues with colds and flus ever since they took up vaping.

So I wonder whether 'suppressing' is the right choice of word here:

If I switch off a light cuz I don't need it after sunrise - am I 'suppressing lighting' then ?

PG in vapour does have antiviral and antibacterial properties and human body is remarkably efficient.
So maybe vaping is lowering pathogen count to a point where the immune system 'dials down' its readiness.
Wouldn't discard their findings out of hand - but definetely woul like to see the study itself.
Even if a lot of it might be science-talk - there's enough vapour with background in medicine/science to make sense of it.
Cuz especially about vaping, a lot of garbage get's written up by so-called 'journalists' who don't have a clue what they're 'reporting' about in the first place, or just parrot what their editors want. Who in turn get told by their advertisers ...

 

[poopkek]

Paper itself was not linked at all. Scrutinizing scientific papers is important , especially so when it comes down to methodologies used. Just because something has been peer-reviewed does not mean it is not flawed. We don't know the exact scope of the sample size and the control groups used. We also don't know who and how the study was funded. North Carolina is the largest tobacco grower in the States. Funding can skew results. Once again, we don't know. Hell, we don't even know it has been published or peer-reviewed in the first place.

Secondly, since we don't have the actual paper to read, we are solely relying on this individual's interpretation of the results. Many genes are dormant. This is normal and just how nature works. We don't need every gene to be active. As the article states, the significance of gene suppression is still on-going. Simply saying it suppresses those genes means nothing until we have multiple studies(this is important and it goes for anything for your non-science people. One study shows absolutely nothing. Interesting maybe but ultimately useless until it can be replicated) showing that the suppression of those genes leads to some sort of specific infection or disease. The researchers need to show a direct correlation between gene-suppression due to vaping to a specific disease and infection.

The entire thing has even more holes but I rather you go here and read the first reply. The poster describes more in detail.

Can you guys help me think critically about this study? "Ecigs shut down hundreds of immune system genes that cigarettes don't" • /r/Vaping

 

[retired1]

Already being discussed here: Vaping and the immune system?

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