This is the status of Proposal 371
http://www.indy.gov/eGov/Council/Proposals/Documents/PROP09-371.pdf
http://www.indy.gov/eGov/Council/Proposals/Documents/PROP09-371.pdf
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Hoosiers - Marion County to have ecig ban
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To my knowledge, all local governments (like the federal and all state governments) have legislative sessions (usually one or two calendar years), at the end of which all legislative proposals that aren't enacted automatically die (and must be reintroduced in the next legislative session).
If anyone knows when the legislative session of the Indy/Merion County Council expires (e.g. the end of 2009, or the end of 2010), please post.
I couldn't find it in the City/County Code (which is where it should be) at
Municode.com | Online Library
If anyone knows when the legislative session of the Indy/Merion County Council expires (e.g. the end of 2009, or the end of 2010), please post.
I couldn't find it in the City/County Code (which is where it should be) at
Municode.com | Online Library
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It appears that the Indy Council has defeated the proposed ban on smoking (and e-cigarette usage) in workplaces (as sending a bill back to committee is a common way to kill legislation). According to yesterday's Indy Star article
Smoking vote likely to go on back burner | IndyStar.com | The Indianapolis Star
the committe might reconsider the proposal in the spring of 2010 (likely with some changes to get the votes needed for passage).
This provides more opportunities to encourage Indy Council members (particularly the bill's sponsors and Community Affairs Committee Community Affairs
to remove/exclude the e-cigarette clause (that would ban e-cigarette usage in all workplace) from the smokefree workplace legislation.
This also provides more opportunities to discourage anti-tobacco/nicotine extremists from advocating the inclusion of e-cigarette usage bans in smokefree workplace legislation.
Unfortunately, there still hasn't been any news stories (or council discussion) about the e-cigarette clause that was included in this smokefree workplace bill.
Smoking vote likely to go on back burner | IndyStar.com | The Indianapolis Star
the committe might reconsider the proposal in the spring of 2010 (likely with some changes to get the votes needed for passage).
This provides more opportunities to encourage Indy Council members (particularly the bill's sponsors and Community Affairs Committee Community Affairs
to remove/exclude the e-cigarette clause (that would ban e-cigarette usage in all workplace) from the smokefree workplace legislation.
This also provides more opportunities to discourage anti-tobacco/nicotine extremists from advocating the inclusion of e-cigarette usage bans in smokefree workplace legislation.
Unfortunately, there still hasn't been any news stories (or council discussion) about the e-cigarette clause that was included in this smokefree workplace bill.
For now, I am chocking this up as a victory.
Mr. Godshall, I never thought I'd say this to an anti-smoker, but you are my hero!
Mr. Godshall, I never thought I'd say this to an anti-smoker, but you are my hero!
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Thanks for the kudos oldlady. But I'm not anti-smoker, as I've helped many smokers quit and/or switch to less hazardous alternatives.
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E-cigarette prohibitionist groups CTFK and ANR endorse Democrat Melina Kennedy for Mayor of Indianapolis because she supports banning smoking in workplaces
Tobacco-Free Kids Action Fund Launches Mail Campaign Supporting Melina Kennedy for Indianapolis Mayor - PR Newswire - sacbee.com
Leading National Smoke-Free Advocacy Group Endorses Melina Kennedy for Indianapolis Mayor -- INDIANAPOLIS, Oct. 5, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --
Kennedy is challenging Republican Mayor Greg Ballard
Indianapolis mayoral candidates stick to themes of jobs, education, transit | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com
Folks in Indianopolis/Marion County are urged to contact Ms. Kennedy to find out if she intends to also ban e-cigarette usage, as an e-cigarette usage ban was included in the most recently proposed smoking ban for Indianapolis/Marion County, and because now (before the election) is the best time to get her on record regarding e-cigarettes.
Tobacco-Free Kids Action Fund Launches Mail Campaign Supporting Melina Kennedy for Indianapolis Mayor - PR Newswire - sacbee.com
Leading National Smoke-Free Advocacy Group Endorses Melina Kennedy for Indianapolis Mayor -- INDIANAPOLIS, Oct. 5, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --
Kennedy is challenging Republican Mayor Greg Ballard
Indianapolis mayoral candidates stick to themes of jobs, education, transit | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com
Folks in Indianopolis/Marion County are urged to contact Ms. Kennedy to find out if she intends to also ban e-cigarette usage, as an e-cigarette usage ban was included in the most recently proposed smoking ban for Indianapolis/Marion County, and because now (before the election) is the best time to get her on record regarding e-cigarettes.
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I almost banged my head against my desk when I saw this because I thought it was yet another new ban.
Thanks for the heads up Bill.
Thanks for the heads up Bill.
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Just one week after CTFK and ANR endorsed Melina Kennedy lost the Indy mayoral race to incumbent Greg Ballard, Smokefree Indy has again urged Mayor Ballard and city council to enact a workplace smoking ban (which included an e-cig usage ban when it was last proposed two years ago).
Group Wants Smoking Ban In Indianapolis Before Super Bowl | News - Indiana Public Media
I'd be surprised if the mayor wants to appease those who recently criticized him and endorsed his opponent.
Group Wants Smoking Ban In Indianapolis Before Super Bowl | News - Indiana Public Media
I'd be surprised if the mayor wants to appease those who recently criticized him and endorsed his opponent.
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Campaign for tobacco Free Kids is furious with Republicans ... for trying to pass a smoking ban?
Most bars in Marion County could be smoke-free soon | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com
Looks like Republicans recognize a smoking ban is inevitable, and they want to pass a simple extension that would exempt tobacco shops, private clubs, etc.
Most bars in Marion County could be smoke-free soon | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com
Looks like Republicans recognize a smoking ban is inevitable, and they want to pass a simple extension that would exempt tobacco shops, private clubs, etc.
It looks like this is going to be a short, narrow window to approval. Someone from the area should get a copy of the proposed ordinance yo find out what's included.
I spoke to one of the reporters that covered the story two days ago. His article mentioned that the ordinance wasn't available. I mentioned the e-cig issue, and explained how they're often 'folded' into smoking ban extensions without legislators bothering to say so in their media releases.
He said he'd keep an eye on it.
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I wasn't aware that Dems won control of the Indy/Marion Co. council till today, but Republicans Vaughn, McQuillen and Ballard's quick response to Smokefree Indy's request for enactment of a smokefree law (before the Super Bowl) was a stroke of genius, and provides us with a much better opportunity to keep e-cigs out of the forthcoming ordinance (than will be the case in January when Dems take over council).
We need to quickly generate letters and calls to Indy/Marion County Council members (especially President Ryan Vaughn, Majority Leader Michael McQuillen and Indy Mayor Greg Ballard) encouraging them to not include an e-cigarette usage ban in their smokefree workplace ordinance.
Below is the e-mail I sent to council members two years ago, and contact info for council members (at that time). It would be helpful is someone checks the council's website and updates my list (as several council members from two years ago may not be on the current council). We also need contact info for Indy Mayor Ballard, which should be at his website. I suggest that CASAA also post a Call To Action ASAP.
From: Bill Godshall
To: Ryan Vaughn ; Mike McQuillen ; Ed Coleman ; Barbara Malone ; Joanne Sanders ; Kent Smith ; Jose Evans ; Angela Mansfield ; Christine Scales ; Virginia Cain ; Janice McHenry ; Maggie Lewis ; Monroe Gray ; Jackie Nytes ; William Oliver ; Paul Bateman ; Robert Lutz ; Marilyn Pfisterer ; Doris Minton--NcNeill ; Brian Mahern ; N. Susie Day ; Benjamin Hunter ; Jeff Cardwell ; Mike Speedy ; Lincoln Plowman
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:49 PM
Subject: Support smokefree workplace bill, but remove nicotine inhaler ban
Council members,
While scientific evidence has consistently found that indoor tobacco smoke pollution harms workers' and public health, there is no evidence that noncombustible nicotine inhalers (commonly called e-cigarettes) have ever harmed any user, let alone any nonuser. As such, there is no logical reason for banning the use of nicotine inhalers in all workplaces in Marion County/Indianapolis, as the proposed smokefree workplace legislation would do.
As one who has educated the public about the health risks of different tobacco products and has advocated smokefree workplace policies/laws since 1986, I strongly urge you to remove the clause in the proposed smokefree workplace legislation that inaccurately defines smoking as including the use of e-cigarettes, and to support the remainder of the smokefree workplace legislation.
The combustion (burning) of tobacco emits about 10,000 chemicals, while levels of particulates (pollutants) in tobacco smoke indoors greatly exceeds EPA's National Ambient Air Quality Standards (NAAQS) for outdoor air. In sharp contrast, although e-cigarettes emit similar levels of nicotine to users (but none to nonusers) as smokeless tobacco products, nicotine gums, lozenges and patches, they emit NO HARMFUL SMOKE.
Although banning smoking in indoor workplaces clearly protects public health and is long overdue, banning the use of noncombustible nicotine inhalers in workplaces only harasses their users, who have recently quit smoking by switching to e-cigarettes.
Including an e-cigarette ban in smokefree workplace legislation would also trivialize the very real health risks posed by tobacco smoke pollution, and would inaccurately confuse the public to believe that nicotine poses risks to nonusers (when its the smoke).
Once again, please eliminate e-cigarettes from the definition of "smoking" in the proposed smokefree workplace legislation, and then please support the smokefree bill. Thank you for you consideration.
William T. Godshall, MPH
Executive Director
Smokefree Pennsylvania
1926 Monongahela Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15218
412-351-5880
FAX 351-5881
smokefree@compuserve.com
Marion County / Indianapolis Council
At-Large
Ed Coleman
edward.coleman@gmail.com
327-4242
Libertarian
At-Large
Barbara Malone
barbara_malone@sbcglobal.net
291-4359
Republican
At-Large
Joanne Sanders
jmsanders@msn.com
283-6040
Minority Leader - Democrat
At-Large
Kent Smith
ksmith4ccc@gmail.com
327-4242
Republican
1st District
Jose M. Evans
info@evansforindy.com
777-4711
Democrat
2nd District
Angela Mansfield
angelamansfield@aol.com
872-3306
Democrat
3rd District
Ryan Vaughn
vaughnforcouncil@gmail.com
437-7701
Vice President-Republican
4th District
Christine Scales
cscales_2000@yahoo.com
578-8901
Republican
5th District
Virginia Cain
CainforCouncil@aol.com
823-2460
Republican
6th District
Janice McHenry
jfmchenry@iquest.net
298-5285
Republican
7th District
Maggie A. Lewis
mlewis2@indy.gov
289-6059
Democrat
8th District
Monroe Gray
mgray@indy.gov
327-4242
Democrat
9th District
Jackie Nytes
jnytes@indy.gov
370-6184
Democrat
10th District
William Oliver
woliver@indy.gov
546-7467
Minority Whip-Democrat
11th District
Paul Bateman
pbateman@indy.gov
327-4242
Democrat
12th District
Michael J. McQuillen
mike@mikemcquillen.com
374-1481
Majority Whip-Republican
13th District
Robert Lutz
rlutz@indy.gov
241-4020
Republican
14th District
Marilyn Pfisterer
cpfist1061@aol.com
244-7156
Republican
15th District
Doris Minton-McNeill
dmmcneil@indy.gov
Democrat
16th District
Brian Mahern
brian@mahern.net
331-5011
Democrat
17th District
Mary Moriarty Adams
mmadams@iquest.net
359-6940
Democrat
18th District
Vernon Brown
VABrown2022@yahoo.com
501-6680
Democrat
19th District
Dane Mahern
dmmahern@hotmail.com
506-2707
Democrat
20th District
N. Susie Day
susieday20@yahoo.com
787-2417
Republican
21st District
Benjamin Hunter
bdhunter@sbcglobal.net
508-0688
Republican
22nd District
Bob Cockrum
856-5549
President-Republican
23rd District
Jeff Cardwell
jcardwell@cardwellhomecenter.com
781-4769
Republican
24th District
Mike Speedy
m.speedy@sbcglobal.net
786-6689
Republican
25th District
Lincoln Plowman
lincolnplowman@comcast.net
557-7594
Majority Leader-Republican
We need to quickly generate letters and calls to Indy/Marion County Council members (especially President Ryan Vaughn, Majority Leader Michael McQuillen and Indy Mayor Greg Ballard) encouraging them to not include an e-cigarette usage ban in their smokefree workplace ordinance.
Below is the e-mail I sent to council members two years ago, and contact info for council members (at that time). It would be helpful is someone checks the council's website and updates my list (as several council members from two years ago may not be on the current council). We also need contact info for Indy Mayor Ballard, which should be at his website. I suggest that CASAA also post a Call To Action ASAP.
From: Bill Godshall
To: Ryan Vaughn ; Mike McQuillen ; Ed Coleman ; Barbara Malone ; Joanne Sanders ; Kent Smith ; Jose Evans ; Angela Mansfield ; Christine Scales ; Virginia Cain ; Janice McHenry ; Maggie Lewis ; Monroe Gray ; Jackie Nytes ; William Oliver ; Paul Bateman ; Robert Lutz ; Marilyn Pfisterer ; Doris Minton--NcNeill ; Brian Mahern ; N. Susie Day ; Benjamin Hunter ; Jeff Cardwell ; Mike Speedy ; Lincoln Plowman
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:49 PM
Subject: Support smokefree workplace bill, but remove nicotine inhaler ban
Council members,
While scientific evidence has consistently found that indoor tobacco smoke pollution harms workers' and public health, there is no evidence that noncombustible nicotine inhalers (commonly called e-cigarettes) have ever harmed any user, let alone any nonuser. As such, there is no logical reason for banning the use of nicotine inhalers in all workplaces in Marion County/Indianapolis, as the proposed smokefree workplace legislation would do.
As one who has educated the public about the health risks of different tobacco products and has advocated smokefree workplace policies/laws since 1986, I strongly urge you to remove the clause in the proposed smokefree workplace legislation that inaccurately defines smoking as including the use of e-cigarettes, and to support the remainder of the smokefree workplace legislation.
The combustion (burning) of tobacco emits about 10,000 chemicals, while levels of particulates (pollutants) in tobacco smoke indoors greatly exceeds EPA's National Ambient Air Quality Standards (NAAQS) for outdoor air. In sharp contrast, although e-cigarettes emit similar levels of nicotine to users (but none to nonusers) as smokeless tobacco products, nicotine gums, lozenges and patches, they emit NO HARMFUL SMOKE.
Although banning smoking in indoor workplaces clearly protects public health and is long overdue, banning the use of noncombustible nicotine inhalers in workplaces only harasses their users, who have recently quit smoking by switching to e-cigarettes.
Including an e-cigarette ban in smokefree workplace legislation would also trivialize the very real health risks posed by tobacco smoke pollution, and would inaccurately confuse the public to believe that nicotine poses risks to nonusers (when its the smoke).
Once again, please eliminate e-cigarettes from the definition of "smoking" in the proposed smokefree workplace legislation, and then please support the smokefree bill. Thank you for you consideration.
William T. Godshall, MPH
Executive Director
Smokefree Pennsylvania
1926 Monongahela Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15218
412-351-5880
FAX 351-5881
smokefree@compuserve.com
Marion County / Indianapolis Council
At-Large
Ed Coleman
edward.coleman@gmail.com
327-4242
Libertarian
At-Large
Barbara Malone
barbara_malone@sbcglobal.net
291-4359
Republican
At-Large
Joanne Sanders
jmsanders@msn.com
283-6040
Minority Leader - Democrat
At-Large
Kent Smith
ksmith4ccc@gmail.com
327-4242
Republican
1st District
Jose M. Evans
info@evansforindy.com
777-4711
Democrat
2nd District
Angela Mansfield
angelamansfield@aol.com
872-3306
Democrat
3rd District
Ryan Vaughn
vaughnforcouncil@gmail.com
437-7701
Vice President-Republican
4th District
Christine Scales
cscales_2000@yahoo.com
578-8901
Republican
5th District
Virginia Cain
CainforCouncil@aol.com
823-2460
Republican
6th District
Janice McHenry
jfmchenry@iquest.net
298-5285
Republican
7th District
Maggie A. Lewis
mlewis2@indy.gov
289-6059
Democrat
8th District
Monroe Gray
mgray@indy.gov
327-4242
Democrat
9th District
Jackie Nytes
jnytes@indy.gov
370-6184
Democrat
10th District
William Oliver
woliver@indy.gov
546-7467
Minority Whip-Democrat
11th District
Paul Bateman
pbateman@indy.gov
327-4242
Democrat
12th District
Michael J. McQuillen
mike@mikemcquillen.com
374-1481
Majority Whip-Republican
13th District
Robert Lutz
rlutz@indy.gov
241-4020
Republican
14th District
Marilyn Pfisterer
cpfist1061@aol.com
244-7156
Republican
15th District
Doris Minton-McNeill
dmmcneil@indy.gov
Democrat
16th District
Brian Mahern
brian@mahern.net
331-5011
Democrat
17th District
Mary Moriarty Adams
mmadams@iquest.net
359-6940
Democrat
18th District
Vernon Brown
VABrown2022@yahoo.com
501-6680
Democrat
19th District
Dane Mahern
dmmahern@hotmail.com
506-2707
Democrat
20th District
N. Susie Day
susieday20@yahoo.com
787-2417
Republican
21st District
Benjamin Hunter
bdhunter@sbcglobal.net
508-0688
Republican
22nd District
Bob Cockrum
856-5549
President-Republican
23rd District
Jeff Cardwell
jcardwell@cardwellhomecenter.com
781-4769
Republican
24th District
Mike Speedy
m.speedy@sbcglobal.net
786-6689
Republican
25th District
Lincoln Plowman
lincolnplowman@comcast.net
557-7594
Majority Leader-Republican
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Here is a link to a PDF of contact information for the Indianapolis/Marian County Council members...
http://www.indy.gov/eGov/Council/Councillors/Documents/2010publiccouncillist.pdf
And here is the contact information for Mayor Ballard...
Office of the Mayor
Gregory A. Ballard
2501 City-County Bldg.
200 E. Washington St.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
Phone: (317) 327-3601
Fax: (317) 327-3980
TTY: (317) 327-5186
http://www.indy.gov/eGov/Council/Councillors/Documents/2010publiccouncillist.pdf
And here is the contact information for Mayor Ballard...
Office of the Mayor
Gregory A. Ballard
2501 City-County Bldg.
200 E. Washington St.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
Phone: (317) 327-3601
Fax: (317) 327-3980
TTY: (317) 327-5186
Please e-mail us at board@casaa.org, say you're from Indianapolis and that Greg asked you to e-mail. I'll be in touch once we have an e-mail list generated.
News reports some recent development concerning the proposed Indy smoking ban:
Indystar, Nov. 30
IndyStar.com Indystar, Dec. 1 (a)
IndyStar.com Indystar, Dec. 1 (b)
Indystar, Nov. 30
IndyStar.com Indystar, Dec. 1 (a)
IndyStar.com Indystar, Dec. 1 (b)
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E-cigs NOT included
http://www.indy.gov/eGov/Council/Proposals/Documents/2011/PROP11-352.pdf
It's hardly guaranteed to pass, but let's hope.
http://www.indy.gov/eGov/Council/Proposals/Documents/2011/PROP11-352.pdf
It's hardly guaranteed to pass, but let's hope.
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The good news is that according to Deal may be close on Indianapolis smoking ban | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com
Smoke Free Indy has endorsed Republican Vaughn's compromise bill, which should convince some/many/most Democrats to vote for it.
Smoke Free Indy has endorsed Republican Vaughn's compromise bill, which should convince some/many/most Democrats to vote for it.
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Even more good news is that according to Close enough on smoking ban | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com
If the most prominant anti-smoking Democrat on Council endorsed Vaughn's bill, it is almost certain to be supported by most/all other Democrats on Council. And since the Republican Council President is sponsoring the bill, most Republicans on Council should vote for it too.
I don't usually make predictions, but I predict enactment.
If the most prominant anti-smoking Democrat on Council endorsed Vaughn's bill, it is almost certain to be supported by most/all other Democrats on Council. And since the Republican Council President is sponsoring the bill, most Republicans on Council should vote for it too.
I don't usually make predictions, but I predict enactment.
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