FDA Hospitals now offering e-cigarettes to smokers and vapers in hospital

[GreekLion]

To preface, this is not FDA specific, however, the fact that this is happening should contribute to the FDA discussion, which is why I selected this specific board.

Now onto the good stuff...

A family member recently had to spend overnight at a hospital, a smoker, who I have yet to convert to a vaper. She had made a joke that she wanted a cigarette to the RN, who told her that the hospital now offers e-cigarettes. The rule is that you can't vape your own and have to buy theirs, but the fact that this is happening in my opinion is huge.

If hospitals are now selling these, they must recognize their place and benefits, and this should turn a lot more people around to vaping. I have to imagine that FDA regulations and hospital profitability are linked, perhaps by a slim margin, but this is progress.

 

[AgentAnia]

GreekLion, what hospital is this?

 

[pamdis]

And what are they selling and for how much?

 

[AgentAnia]

The more I think about this, the more I think it's big, that they're acknowledging that ecigs have a place in the in-hospital life of their patients.

As for requiring patients to purchase from the hospital, I don't agree with it but it doesn't surprise me at all. Hospitals charge patients for (i.e. sell) every little thing, from IV bags to kleenex.

 

[LoveVanilla]

And what are they selling and for how much?

Blu, and it is $254.39. Okay, j/k. I made that up.

 

[Kent C]

Blu, and it is $254.39. Okay, j/k. I made that up.

And they're using eliquid to induce vomiting for kids who swallow something that is actually poisonous. Made that up too

No wonder health care costs are skyrocketing!!

 

[GreekLion]

GreekLion, what hospital is this?

UMass Memorial Medical Center | UMass Memorial Medical Center | UMass Memorial Health Care

 

[GreekLion]

And what are they selling and for how much?

I didn't get to visit because the trip was so fast they didn't end up getting it - brand wasn't listed.

 

[twgbonehead]

The more I think about this, the more I think it's big, that they're acknowledging that ecigs have a place in the in-hospital life of their patients.

As for requiring patients to purchase from the hospital, I don't agree with it but it doesn't surprise me at all. Hospitals charge patients for (i.e. sell) every little thing, from IV bags to kleenex.

I'm not so sure about that. They probably don't want people using their mech mods and sub-ohm drippers, or using cheap ego's. Requiring you to buy one of theirs helps them control their liability.

I think it's great; hope more hospitals will start doing this!

 

[jswag5]

they probably have you buy theirs in case personal vaporizers might contain allergens others might find irritating

 

[GrandPapa]

Hi,
I live in Surrey, BC and recently had to make a trip to my vasular surgeon in downtown Vancouver at the hospital. I was waiting in the reception area and asked the nurse (receptionist if I could Vape) she said yes (no cloud production tho') as I was waiting 2 more patients came in, this started a conversation about my Itaste 134 mini etc. One gentleman (after I explained that I just started in June and had gone down to 1 cigarette a week) asked where to buy one for his son, I said you could do a vape juice search and find a distributor (I didn't know any in Vancouver) the receptionist done the search and gave the gentleman the address!!
Jim

 

[AgentAnia]

I'm not so sure about that. They probably don't want people using their mech mods and sub-ohm drippers, or using cheap ego's. Requiring you to buy one of theirs helps them control their liability.

I think it's great; hope more hospitals will start doing this!

Good point. And if they can make a little profit while limiting their liability, so much the better for their bottom line, no?

 

[DC2]

I'm not so sure about that. They probably don't want people using their mech mods and sub-ohm drippers, or using cheap ego's. Requiring you to buy one of theirs helps them control their liability.

That, and they want to make sure they know what's in it.

I think it's great; hope more hospitals will start doing this!

It's sure a whole hell of a lot better than the direction that most hospitals are taking with tobacco and electronic cigarettes!

 

[DrMA]

Hi,
I live in Surrey, BC and recently had to make a trip to my vasular surgeon in downtown Vancouver at the hospital. I was waiting in the reception area and asked the nurse (receptionist if I could Vape) she said yes (no cloud production tho') as I was waiting 2 more patients came in, this started a conversation about my Itaste 134 mini etc. One gentleman (after I explained that I just started in June and had gone down to 1 cigarette a week) asked where to buy one for his son, I said you could do a vape juice search and find a distributor (I didn't know any in Vancouver) the receptionist done the search and gave the gentleman the address!!
Jim

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how vaping normalizes vaping and de-normalizes smoking, contrary to the false, misleading, and alarmist claims advanced by ANTZ.

 

[XJ-linux]

Buy one of theirs, and use your own when they aren't looking.

 

[Steamix]

May also have to do with electric shielding. Hospitals are usually pretty uptight about cellphones. So a pulsed mod not proprerly shielded...

wouldnt be too good PR, if every time you take a drag from your gear, someone with a pacemaker installed does a funky dance...

Either way, bought from them or bring your own - pragmatic approaches like these are great.

Hospital staff is 'frontline' , they're the first to figure out what works and what doesn't. And since they're more often than not underpaid and overworked they have neither the time nor the patience to deal with ideological baggage. If it works - use it. If it doesn't - ditch it...

 

[AndriaD]

Buy one of theirs, and use your own when they aren't looking.

Exactly what I was thinking. If I could get out of bed and go into the bathroom, I'd be using my own!!!

Andria

 

[Jingles]

Wouldn't it be nice if d eventually they noticed that they and their patients were getting less colds then before vaping was allowed? If they noticed the asthma and respiratory patients were doing better if they vaped? That's my dream for the future of vaping in hospitals....

 

[potholerepairman]

the fact this story was not a pain clinic in south florida made me relieved, like a man in a bad area, going "thankfully its not us this time".

 

[rico942]

Buy one of theirs, and use your own when they aren't looking.

Use your own, and claim its one of theirs ...

Or at least have a friend bring you the same brand, to avoid the hospital markup ...