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OK, so lets talk for a minute... hypothetically speaking...
IF by chance, I found a crystal clear material that exceeds the ability of Pyrex to be impervious to liquids... ie. your juice has absolutely NO ability to damage it... and by chance, I can get it in the correct tubing size to use as the tank on the Zenesis PVs and Z-attys...
And what if there was NO additional machining required to make this happen...
The only thing is waiting to have the material cut may take a week... but we are already delayed by the machine shop anyway...
And I am 98% percent certain based on thorough and exhausting calculations that there is plenty of clearance and it won't have the thermal expansion issue....
Those are the upsides...
The downside possible delay of a few extra days...
It's expensive... but not to worry, I'm not changing the price of anything, I'm just commenting that it's expensive and replacement tanks will cost a bit more...
Anyway...
By my calculations, experiments and knowledge of materials, I would like to propose that the Zenesis Hyprid PV and and Z-attys... starting with THIS shipment... would be the FIRST and ONLY PV or tank for that matter to be supplied with...
A Fused Quartz Tubing Tank section.
It blows Pyrex out of the water...
It's EXOTIC!
And it's what REPLACED Pyrex in most serious labs.
Because it's better...
This is exciting stuff... should we do it?
Zenfidels... ESPECIALLY the Febbies...
What say you?
Wow Zen! You keep pulling exotic rabbits out of your hat! I am all for exotic! You might want to test out the thermal expansion before you ship it all over the world though. How shatterable/ shatterproof are these?
OK, so lets talk for a minute... hypothetically speaking...
IF by chance, I found a crystal clear material that exceeds the ability of Pyrex to be impervious to liquids... ie. your juice has absolutely NO ability to damage it... and by chance, I can get it in the correct tubing size to use as the tank on the Zenesis PVs and Z-attys...
And what if there was NO additional machining required to make this happen...
The only thing is waiting to have the material cut may take a week... but we are already delayed by the machine shop anyway...
And I am 98% percent certain based on thorough and exhausting calculations that there is plenty of clearance and it won't have the thermal expansion issue....
Those are the upsides...
The downside possible delay of a few extra days...
It's expensive... but not to worry, I'm not changing the price of anything, I'm just commenting that it's expensive and replacement tanks will cost a bit more...
Anyway...
By my calculations, experiments and knowledge of materials, I would like to propose that the Zenesis Hyprid PV and and Z-attys... starting with THIS shipment... would be the FIRST and ONLY PV or tank for that matter to be supplied with...
A Fused Quartz Tubing Tank section.
It blows Pyrex out of the water...
It's EXOTIC!
And it's what REPLACED Pyrex in most serious labs.
Because it's better...
This is exciting stuff... should we do it?
Zenfidels... ESPECIALLY the Febbies...
What say you?
Hmmm. Well, it is certainly interesting.
First and foremost for me, I'm anxious to get my Zenesis so the thought of additional delays gives me a case of sadface
What's the latest word from the machine shop?
As for the fused quartz:
- Does it not have the same vulnerabilities Pyrex does, i.e the high probability/certainty of breakage due to the expansion & contraction of the pv itself?
- How strong is it in terms of impact resistance?
- Has any testing been done in this application?
- Have you actually fitted the new material to the Zenesis and given it a whirl?
- How much longer would the wait be?
- How much would a replacement tank be if it were offered after the Zensis shipped with the original tank?
If it can handle the demands of the application I think it's a phenomenal find but for me it really comes down to how long the delay would be.
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little late to be adding this to the mix...but damn we want this.....plastic is just not very juice friendly and if this is better than pyrex im all for it!!! although i want my zenesis now, i will be willing to wait for something like this
Hey Zen, two things. First, is the new material bullet proof too? That would be Fricken awesome. "man shot in bank robbery gone bad. But was saved by a z-atty from the house of hybrids carried in his shirt pocket"
Second, I went to your site and inquired about getting a z-atty for my new provari I will b getting soon but have not heard back. Just wondering cause I get my bonus next week and I'm looking to stock up on some things.
"man shot in bank robbery gone bad. But was saved by a z-atty from the house of hybrids carried in his shirt pocket"Second, I went to your site and inquired about getting a z-atty for my new provari I will b getting soon but have not heard back. Just wondering cause I get my bonus next week and I'm looking to stock up on some things.
The temp shift to make the steel shift enough to cause a problem would be larger than you can survive.
I would forgo the poly entirely and keep an inventory of Quartz tubes, I believe.
no change in price... I want to build and deliver the best PV I can...
Since I'm a "Marchie" it would be selfish of me to make a decision that would possibly impact the "Febers." So I hereby recuse myself.
Hey Zen, two things. First, is the new material bullet proof too? That would be Fricken awesome.
Second, I went to your site and inquired about getting a z-atty for my new provari I will b getting soon but have not heard back. Just wondering cause I get my bonus next week and I'm looking to stock up on some things.
check your inbox... emails come back to you from mmorgan@dawnbreaker.com
The Z-atty Pro list is closed... sorry.
i just looked this stuff up.... and was shocked at the cost.. it's not all that bad. i thought it was gonna be super super expensive
I, too, am a Marchie. But I think it sounds fabulous. I like exotic. I like 'pioneering'. I like being a part of all this. I still maintain what you are doing, Zen~, is big. Creating vaping history and I was there! Er, here. Umm, a part of it all.
Mike, I say do what YOU feel is right. I can wait a few days (I am a Februarian) longer for something like this. My only question, have you tested it in this application and how hard is it going to be for you to work with? If you are that confident, then do it. If not, test it and use in March, I gotta Z-Atty-G coming in March, and would just add this to my order for my Feb Zen-mini.
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