Zen I wanted to thank you for doing what you are doing.You had an ideal,you built it and are refining it.putting out the best dam hybrid.Yes their will be bumps in the road but your bumps are progress and advances.So thank you.
Sounds like someone put a lot of holes in tops to find the sweet spot.
Feber here,If zen wants quartz,zen gets quartz!I have waited patiently and will continue to wait patiently.Its not like I don't have any other pv's to use.
Remember zenfidels,It'll be worth the wait and then some.
So it took me a while to catch up with the evening posts...
After collecting money for these, however... I have to rephrase that to "I want to make the best PV you will allow me to make", because I am now in debt to all of you, and until I ship, I will be uncomfortable with any delay of any kind for any reason.
he didnt agree to my response, and I didnt feel like arguing about it, so it ended up another post i deleted afterwards as it is not worth the effort in any case
...the Zen master has spoken and further strenghtened my earlier comments...*bows his head*
what american industry should be like there would be only CHEVY FORD AND HARLEYDAVIDSON RUNNIN THE ROADS..MAJOR RESPECT FOR YOU POPPA ZENSo it took me a while to catch up with the evening posts... You guys have been busy!
I'd like to take a minute to tell you what I think about this latest development.
First things first... When I designed the Zenesis PV it was my intention, as you know... To build the best PV I possibly can build. I have no illusions about it being the best in the world... I just want it to be the best I can make, even of I have to learn new skills to do so.
I started with aluminum... Because I could. I know stainless is better... And I also know that if I use stainless I would want to use the best available... I lack the machinery to turn 316LVM, and I cannot afford to own it!
Aluminum was the best I could do.
My original plan was to use Pyrex for the tank... Polycarbonate is a compromise. When I discovered Pyrex would be a problem, I settled for polycarbonate even though I wanted to use Pyrex. I have struggled with that decision.
So... Aluminum... A compromise... Polycarbonate... A compromise... The first units have springs in the switch... Compromise... The first units had a pin for the positive connection... A compromise.
And with all the compromises, it's an amazing PV... "its the coolest thing I saw at VaperCon" was the buzz after that weekend. Hundreds of requests to build them came in...
And it was loaded with compromises!
Other people didn't see it that way... They just related to what I was trying to do and fell in love with it!
All could see was where it fell short of my desires.
So out went the spring... Replaced with magnets... Compromise gone.
I redesigned the positive connection... Boom... Compromise gone.
The big upgrade... Stainless, and not just stainless... The best stainless ever used on a PV. Compromise gone...
Then there's that tank... Plastic... Polycarbonate.. Known to have issues... And a complete compromise.
It's not what I wanted to deliver. Pyrex was being mentioned over and over again in the thread and people were offering up well intentioned solutions... Not knowing I have exhausted the options to use that material.
I was working on quartz for a while, and it is completely compatible with the Dragon design... I found several sources of the material, that was easy... Getting somebody to manufacture the tanks is quite another issue. Ive been at this for a while, and working towards the dragon release... Then I found the answer!
So if you ask me how I feel about quartz... It's better to ask me how I feel about polycarbonate...
I hated the fact that I had not solved the problem in time for the production release. It really made me unhappy, because to me... The best PV I can make should not have a plastic tank.
Then the news of the delay at the machine shop... I'm actually ok with that kind of a delay... One that ensures high quality... I looked at the delay and said, how can I flip this time delay into an opportunity... I've already been talking to the quartz people... I wonder if they can produce enough tanks to be able to have them made while the machine shop QA is happening... So I called... And they welcomed the business.
I never wanted polycarbonate... It was never my vision...
I want to make the best PV I can make...
After collecting money for these, however... I have to rephrase that to "I want to make the best PV you will allow me to make", because I am now in debt to all of you, and until I ship, I will be uncomfortable with any delay of any kind for any reason.
Thanks I just updated it. hehehe
HEY BUB..your in ma space scoot over and pass me a STOUT...yea that is 70weight oil you smell hehe! dont go askin any battery questions the pitchforks and torches come out of the wood work!Wow guys, I have been following since December and got on the standard list January 5. This thread has been a nightly thing for me and I have enjoyed the nightly ritual of reading the new posts. Man, lately if I miss a day, it is a time commitment getting caught up. This is awesome. I love this thread. I enjoy being a quiet part of your group (cult?). I don't post much. In fact, the last time I posted, I think I might have inadvertently started the whole wick fiasco (sorry). Anyway, I'm glad to be here. That is all. I will go back to my quiet corner and continue observing.
HEY BUB..your in ma space scoot over and pass me a STOUT...yea that is 70weight oil you smell hehe! dont go askin any battery questions the pitchforks and torches come out of the wood work!
That post went straight over my head. The lingo over there is quite different.
wow. I thought I broke the site![]()