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Len Warren

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Have any of you had a grandparent that had a cast iron skillet. We'll I did. I made a big mistake and washed it. It wasn't pretty. Boy did I get a tong lashing. Reason being it was "seasoned". My point is I finally found my sweet spot 325 mesh with 3 coils that ohmed out at 1.5 ohm. which = 12 watts at 4.2 volts and 9 watts at 3.7v. Point being my coil is seasoned by build up. Crusty e juice residue. Kinda like grandmas cast iron skillet. Had a lot of current problems ie. not firing consistently. I bought some di-electric grease and lubed everything up and works alot better now. Di-electric grease conducts electricity and prevents corrosion. Point being 'dirty' wick & coil, for lack of a better term, is better. Also seasonig does take time. Mabe this will help people.:vapor: Oh by the way I am very happy with my Zenisis now. top notch. Top shelf APV. Keep on vaping.:):thumb::thumb:
 

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Great way of describing it! :thumbs:

(I get in trouble with my wife all the time over hers...I think she would rather have that skillet from her grandmother than me!)

Have any of you had a grandparent that had a cast iron skillet. We'll I did. I made a big mistake and washed it. It wasn't pretty. Boy did I get a tong lashing. Reason being it was "seasoned". My point is I finally found my sweet spot 325 mesh with 3 coils that ohmed out at 1.5 ohm. which = 12 watts at 4.2 volts and 9 watts at 3.7v. Point being my coil is seasoned by build up. Crusty e juice residue. Kinda like grandmas cast iron skillet. Had a lot of current problems ie. not firing consistently. I bought some di-electric grease and lubed everything up and works alot better now. Di-electric grease conducts electricity and prevents corrosion. Point being 'dirty', for lack of a better term, is better. Also seasonig does take time. Mabe this will help people.:vapor: Oh by the way I am very happy with my Zenisis now. top notch. Top shelf APV. Keep on vaping.:):thumb::thumb:
 

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Thanks! I'm so grateful to have all of you to help me! I hope to be the one helping other newbs before long!

Let's see - I followed Zen's instructions to the letter when I first got the Zini... juice, pulse, burn off juice, repeat. Checked for shorts... don't think I have any. Tried the light up the coils then tilt while still firing tip. Tried the light the coils on fire tip. Pulled the wick up a tiny bit from the bottom. Pushed a syringe tip through the coil opening. Thinned out original juice and have since tried 4 different juices of varying VG/PG levels. Um... I think that's it? I've tried every tip and trick I've read in these pages.

Have you tried setting it up and just vaping it for a few days. I know we want them working gloriously right after setting up a coil, but if all else fails, just using it and being mindful to tilt it to keep from getting that dry hit can work wonders. Since I am not right there, and everything does look and sound right, that may just be what you need.

I can get them going perfectly and have them broken in and vaping like fog machines in about 10 minutes, but I have been using Genisis mods exclusively for well over a year.

I'm not being critical either, I'm just pointing this out because I started where many of you are once too. I had no idea what to look for and what to do, but after reading everything that had the word Genisis in it and combing through YouTube for months watching everything I could about these things, I finally tried one. It did not work well at all for a long time before I finally got it and knew what to look for and how to react to the things it was doing.

This is why I try to help everyone get to a working Genisis as quickly as possible, so that everyone that gets one will be able to enjoy their new mod and do so in much less time than it took me to get it. Once you do get it, you will be able to whip up a new wick and coil in no time and be off to the races, but even after that, you will sometimes get that stubborn wiick that does not want to play nice. Trust me, it will work well within a few days with your current setup if you just let it alone and vape it.

Unless you melted the PTFE insert a little and it seeped into the mesh, then your wick will never work well because it is literally clogged with plastic (don't laugh, I have done the same thing myself which is why I know it can happen ;) ). If that is the case you will need to replace the coil.

Also, if the wick was clogged up with carbon during the initial oxidation process, you will have a slow wick. Thus can be fixed by cleaning the wick with toothbrush and hot water and then firing it up again with the coil.

If you dry the coil out and then drip some juice on it and the juice does not INSTANTLY get sucked up by the wick, then this is what the problem is.

I hope some of these tips help :)
 

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Thank you Lorderos! I have been, and will continue to, vape on my Zini... I've been using it pretty much exclusively since I got it. I keep hoping for it to start wicking. I'd say I've vaped around 5 tanks or so with it so far. I keep asking questions because, you're right, I have no clue what to look for as far as problems and I don't know if the non wicking is a problem or something that just needs time. So, for now, I'm tilting it to get a hit and continue to watch the forum for useful advice like yours. I just don't know at what point I give up on this setup and start over. I don't want to till I have to!
 

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I have mentioned this before but would like zen to chime in here if possible.

Pull speed.

The zenesis seems like the pull is more "airy" as several have mentioned.



Although I was not used to the airy draw at first, I have grown used to it and even enjoy it now.

My main question is that I find that with the more airy draw, the slower I pull, the more vapor and flavor I get.

I am assuming that the zenesis is meant to work in this manner. I am wondering if zen can discuss the pull speed that is optimal for his device.

Thanks in advance :)

You have the right idea ob, the Genisis atomizer like lots of airflow, but not necessarily lots of velocity. If the air moves too fast, then the coil cools too fast and of course cannot efficiently vaporize the juice.

The only time you need fast flow and lots of air is if the coil is wound to get really hot (3 coils or less). Then if you don't get enough velocity with the airflow you get burnt hits.

Long easy draw work best for me with 4 or 5 coils. If I wrap a 3 coil atty then I have to draw like I mean it or else ;)
 

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Thank you Lorderos! I have been, and will continue to, vape on my Zini... I've been using it pretty much exclusively since I got it. I keep hoping for it to start wicking. I'd say I've vaped around 5 tanks or so with it so far. I keep asking questions because, you're right, I have no clue what to look for as far as problems and I don't know if the non wicking is a problem or something that just needs time. So, for now, I'm tilting it to get a hit and continue to watch the forum for useful advice like yours. I just don't know at what point I give up on this setup and start over. I don't want to till I have to!

It does sound like you have been patient enough with it to tear it down and start over. I saw the pic of your coils and they looked as good as I have ever seen, but maybe (just maybe) the coil burned like that just a touch too long and melted the PTFE slightly and so in turn clogged the wick. I would pull the coil off and not how hard it is to get the wick out. If it is stick then melted PTFE is the problem for sure.

From what I saw of your coils, you will have no problems getting a new one working perfectly. It's work it to check even this is not the problem :)
 

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It does sound like you have been patient enough with it to tear it down and start over. I saw the pic of your coils and they looked as good as I have ever seen, but maybe (just maybe) the coil burned like that just a touch too long and melted the PTFE slightly and so in turn clogged the wick. I would pull the coil off and not how hard it is to get the wick out. If it is stick then melted PTFE is the problem for sure.

From what I saw of your coils, you will have no problems getting a new one working perfectly. It's work it to check even this is not the problem :)

The wick moves freely... I pulled it up slightly to make sure it wasn't touching the bottom of the tank. But - the coils are Zen's. I have not tried to make a coil yet! We shall see if I'm any good at it. I wouldn't be surprised though if the coil burned too long. I wasn't sure how long it could go so in the beginning I would only pulse it, but I did let it burn much longer a few times when I was futzing with it and also, I lit it on fire twice.
 

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The wick moves freely... I pulled it up slightly to make sure it wasn't touching the bottom of the tank. But - the coils are Zen's. I have not tried to make a coil yet! We shall see if I'm any good at it. I wouldn't be surprised though if the coil burned too long. I wasn't sure how long it could go so in the beginning I would only pulse it, but I did let it burn much longer a few times when I was futzing with it and also, I lit it on fire twice.

You lit it on fire while in the device?
 

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Sorry. Pchela. Spell check and I can't Change it for some reason :)

LOL - I didn't even think that first post was for me.

I think, but am not positive, that if you ask for different percentages in the special requests at Mom and Pop's, they will accommodate you. She mixes each juice to what she deems perfect so each flavor has different pg/vg ratios.
 
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