House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

[pchela]

I feel the same way, but lately I've been "that person" and I have mixed feelings about it too. Sometimes I feel like going back and deleting a post after I make it, but the thread moves so fast, they are quickly lost in the shuffle so I don't mind as much.



It's definitely not helping tybin, I thought about it after my last post, just those depressed feelings get compounded by other life events, my dog's health. Last week I lost a childhood friend (car accident), and sometimes you wonder if it's all just a test, or why the universe needs to pile everything on your plate when it already seems so full you don't know what to do with it all.

So, yeah, on top of it, it just keeps coming...

It's healthy to share and if this is the place you can do it, I think it's great. Don't go second guessing and deleting posts!

 

[elfstone]

I was being serious and not even thinking of last night I need one for coil wrapping on another device

Sheesh, I'm so deep in the gutter I need a ladder... Now ladder just means that, right?

 

[ian74]

You're a sweetheart Katz. I hope I get to meet you (if you're going) and everyone else at Vapercon. I'm totally there.

Ian, I am here if you ever need to talk. I have been there so many times I have lost count now. Life hands you things that are harder than you can handle and that is when I go down that dark road again. I am only halfway back right now. I know that little Toby is weighing heavy on your heart right now. I know this as I just lost my baby girl Pom Mandy in February. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/loving-caring-k9s-felines-other-pets/272105-rest-peace-my-darling-i-will-never-forget-you.html She was a rescue and I had her for 12 years. She stole my heart as I am sure Toby has stolen yours. I went down that road in December with her being so sick and I am just coming back now.

I also have seasonal cycles although they are a little off the most common schedule. I am almost always in a good place in September and a bad one in the spring. So yeah, I also have SAD or Seasonal Affective Disorder. Mine comes on toward the end of Winter or beginning of spring and usually stays until mid August to mid September. So for me the light therapy does not work.

Whoever said that what ever does not kill you makes you stronger did not have to deal with depression. Please know that we are here for you Ian. Any time, any day.

 

[ian74]

My bad. I love sandwiches.

Jesus, the thread was a lot happier place just a couple of hours ago.....

Yes, chemicals can help mellow a depression.......some can make you forget why you were depressed in the first place.......

Ian -- Life's a ....., then you die, I fully believe that, its the sandwiches you enjoy along the way that make it great....

 

[tybin]

totally concur

It's healthy to share and if this is the place you can do it, I think it's great. Don't go second guessing and deleting posts!

 

[j_fro]

Up with sandwiches!


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I have been reading commentary on Julian Jaynes' Bicameral mind/consciousness theories most of the day. I don't think I find it satisfactory. But then again, well - whatever.

 

[tybin]

there's that "well, whatever" again

 

[Katz123]

I have this as well. So there are times where it just feels like "Why do I even want to continue?" I have thought that, but never actually considered ending it all. More like it takes the wind out of your sails and you are labeled lazy. For me chronic pain and fatigue is something that no one understands unless they also have it. Then there are the pain medications. Never mind, I don't even want to go there. I am really frustrated with that part of my care right now.

Oh, and don't forget chronic pain and fatigue. I am a firm disbeliever in "fibromyalgia" as it is proposed today, but hey - I might be wrong...

In medieval literature, there was a term - "melancholia dolorosa" - which probably referred to fibromyalgia. That literally means painful depression (if we forgo the bizarre dark bile explanations)

Anyway, I think depression goes hand in hand with chronic pain, and luckily one of the drugs marketed for fibromyalgia is an antidepressant so it works, lol.

My point here is, though, if your depression includes all this "sleep all day", "can't find energy for anything", and "every muscle in my body hurts", you might want to ask the doc about switching to an "SNRI" instead of your standard "SSRI" - they seem to help better.

 

[Chief Thunder]

Um, I like chocolate milk


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[T-Mac]

Hey everyone, hope you are all doing well. Been he!! week at work and haven't been able to keep up lately but wanted to tell you guys thanks for the bumps. Hopefully will be able to catch up tonight and looks like I missed Zen last night.

 

[TexasPride]

Any pic's of a ZAU on a 18350 flat top PrecisePlus floating around? My ProVari has a new friend coming and I'm back to looking for that perfect base for the U. Thanks & good morning all west of me, afternoon to those east

 

[emonty]

Had a four hour walk in the forest, man that does wonders...get off your ... and see the world...you might be surprised how life is magical!!!!!!

 

[Chief Thunder]

Had a four hour walk in the forest, man that does wonders...get off your ... and see the world...you might be surprised how life is magical!!!!!!

Forest? You must live in the Midwest or England


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[sl_rat]

Up with sandwiches!


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I have been reading commentary on Julian Jaynes' Bicameral mind/consciousness theories most of the day. I don't think I find it satisfactory. But then again, well - whatever.

what??? you lost me after "sandwiches"...

 

[j_fro]

what??? you lost me after "sandwiches"...

Mike mentioned the name overnight in a response to elfstone's declaration on "the pseudo science of psychology" and brain physiology that sparked lots of sharing, (which is fine, I myself have bouts of acedia [because, of course, plain ol' depression would be too easy - n.b. I know it well take no offense])

SO I did as much reading at the computer as I care to, I am going to buy M. Jaynes' book. I have a bit of cognitive dissonance though, as I want to read it but already think it is not sufficient. Alas, what is?

What is sufficient? I have read uncountable paginated words, though I admit that I have concentrated on the love of knowledge as opposed to the study of organic structure - and I have found only path towards a sufficiency. It is problematic however as that path relies on "mystery." I find it difficult to reconcile mystery to my own need to be the central figure in my own personal cella; moreover I find it hard to reconcile mystery to my own need to control my own self. I was always a reluctant mystic, a contemplative looking for distraction.

 

[Katz123]

Ian, If I could afford to go, I would be there a week early, just so I did not miss a thing. It sucks to be poor. Being poor also compounds depression and being depressed makes it hard to go to work to make the money so you feel better. It is a vicious circle that is sometimes hard to break. I am using that ladder right now but not to get out of the gutter. It is lots of fun in here!!!!

You're a sweetheart Katz. I hope I get to meet you (if you're going) and everyone else at Vapercon. I'm totally there.

 

[emonty]

Forest? You must live in the Midwest or England


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Went to the eastern part of Holland, it has some nice woods.....tomorrow going to meet Less, the maker of the Orion, pretty psyched to meet the man and talk about pv's and have a nice vape!

 

[stevo123]

Went the eastern part of Holland, it has some nice woods.....tomorrow going to meet Less, the maker of the Orion, pretty psyched to meet the man and talk about pv's and have a nice vape!

It's a pitty you don't have your Ti you could show him a proper pv

 

[emonty]

It's a pitty you don't have your Ti you could show him a proper pv

Lol......................

 

[grruss]

It's a pitty you don't have your Ti you could show him a proper pv

Make no mistake about it. The Orion is a proper PV. I prefer Zens, but there are plenty of folks who swear by the Orion. I fell in love with the switch, and out of love with the setup.