House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

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Also. Regarding the anodizing. The base of the bat tube is raw, and the knurled part of the switch is also raw, it just has to make good contact there. Also inside switch, the spring makes contact with raw alum inside and that must be clean. It will fire as it should as long as those pieces/parts are clean. Back the switch off a micro turn (OK.. 1/8 of a turn :)) and the Cobalt will not fire. I like this, as I do not have to back it off so far as the mini/standard to prevent firing in a pocket.

I don't know what to say dude...except before filling with juice I was dry burning to adjust coils and the original switch wouldn't even get the coils to glow with the original wick but my other SS switches (and my Ti switch) would get it to glow not problem. The only part of the cobalt switch that is different from the SS switch is the aluminum anodized push button. The top of the switch that screws into the device is SS. So basically I was just trying to guess at what the problem may be and guessing the anodizing in the push button. I have cleaned with 99.9% iso alcohol all areas including the threads inside the cobalt.
 

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Mike had a SW at vapercon that had a 510 connection. I wanted to get a pic to post but one certain guy wouldn't let me touch it once it was in his hands.....I will let you discern who that certain guy was. :D :blink: :D

LOL ok, that was something Mike never told me about then :p and of course, I think we can guess who that 'certain' guy was....right OB?

being it was probably a beta prototype, I know unless 'the man himself' doesnt post a picture, he doesnt want anyone else to post them as well...
 
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both blues are cobalts...one just has an SS tank and full SS switch it looks like (different quality grade too I'm guessing?).. Zen~ said he was bringing 3 different quality grades (and priced accordingly too) with him to VC

The guy didn't buy it that way, he picked up a SS tank, already had the DT and screwed on a normal SS button and that was the result. Looks badazz huh....
 

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I have the same dealeo with my cobalt. The original coil is out on mine now, put a hotter coil on it. But even then, I am not getting the heat I am used to... The switch seems to be OK, batts are fine and clean, all I can figure is it is all the mass of the thick wick. So gonna try a thinner wick here today. Just leave it thick going into the tank/wick hole, and thin the wick that is in the chamber... That thick wick does wick great!

ETA: So I took the coil off, cut the thick wick just a hair above the bottom of atomizer chamber, used a small phillips screwdriver shaft (~2mm thick) to round the wick after cutting, took a thin wick that I had from Mike, dropped it down into the thick wick center, coiled it up. Vaping like a champ now for me :vapor: YMMV of course :)

Also. Regarding the anodizing. The base of the bat tube is raw, and the knurled part of the switch is also raw, it just has to make good contact there. Also inside switch, the spring makes contact with raw alum inside and that must be clean. It will fire as it should as long as those pieces/parts are clean. Back the switch off a micro turn (OK.. 1/8 of a turn :)) and the Cobalt will not fire. I like this, as I do not have to back it off so far as the mini/standard to prevent firing in a pocket.
I disagree - Here is what I just did after my wick and coil was no better than Zen's. Look at the battery tube - yes, the threads are anodized, but the bottom edge is clean - this is more than enough to make good contact with the switch. I took a fine file and made sure that was clean, then I flipped the battery, so that the nipple was down at the switch end. Bingo! Much better! I still gave this mod to my wife, as this thing is just to tiny to vape comfortably in my big meat hooks. She was the one nice enough to let me spend the money at VC and she is loving this thing, so she deserves to have it. It's vaping pretty nice now :)
 

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I disagree - Here is what I just did after my wick and coil was no better than Zen's. Look at the battery tube - yes, the threads are anodized, but the bottom edge is clean - this is more than enough to make good contact with the switch. I took a fine file and made sure that was clean, then I flipped the battery, so that the nipple was down at the switch end. Bingo! Much better! I still gave this mod to my wife, as this thing is just to tiny to vape comfortably in my big meat hooks. She was the one nice enough to let me spend the money at VC and she is loving this thing, so she deserves to have it. It's vaping pretty nice now :)

Actually, that was my point. "The base of the bat tube is raw, and the knurled part of the switch is also raw, it just has to make good contact there." We agree.
 

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The guy didn't buy it that way, he picked up a SS tank, already had the DT and screwed on a normal SS button and that was the result. Looks badazz huh....

yea I figured about the tank...didnt know about the switch...DT's? we all know they come with nada.. and mike did have 3 quality price points for the cobalts ;)
 

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yea I figured about the tank...didnt know about the switch...DT's? we all know they come with nada.. and mike did have 3 quality price points for the cobalts ;)

I agree Shai but the quality price points had to do with the quality of the finish not the material used to produce the APV. Some were slightly blemished, some were more than slightly blemished. There were some of the second grade cobalts that went fast that most would have to look really hard to find the blemish. Readmermaid got a second finish that Mike picked out for her, and it took me a few minutes just to find the slightly small blemish and it wasn't a scratch through the anodizing, it was more like a slight scuff on one part of the batt tube.....no one but her will ever know it's there and unless she is trying to look for it, she won't see it. That's not to say that all of the second finish cobalts looked this good and there were some third finish cobalts that were pretty rough. :)
 

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The guy didn't buy it that way, he picked up a SS tank, already had the DT and screwed on a normal SS button and that was the result. Looks badazz huh....

yep, I may not be a 'blue' fan but it looks badazz like that ;) love the new(?) dt's on yours too crypto....
 

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I agree Shai but the quality price points had to do with the quality of the finish not the material used to produce the APV. Some were slightly blemished, some were more than slightly blemished. There were some of the second grade cobalts that went fast that most would have to look really hard to find the blemish. Readmermaid got a second finish that Mike picked out for her, and it took me a few minutes just to find the slightly small blemish and it wasn't a scratch through the anodizing, it was more like a slight scuff on one part of the batt tube.....no one but her will ever know it's there and unless she is trying to look for it, she won't see it. That's not to say that all of the second finish cobalts looked this good and there were some third finish cobalts that were pretty rough. :)

agreed.... and still, pictures don't do any justice when Mike's apv's are concerned... from what most were saying at VC, you could barely tell when you got a 2nd grade.... 3rds were another story altogether, but without a doubt, still worth more than every penny spent...
 

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Actually, that was my point. "The base of the bat tube is raw, and the knurled part of the switch is also raw, it just has to make good contact there." We agree.

All that is absolutely true but it doesn't explain why four different SS switches make the cobalt hit hard and the ano switch does not. Gawd I feel like I am complaining but I am not....it vapes great....so I am only posting these comments to point out that in the very least, I notice a difference. If you have a SS switch, stick it into your cobalt and see if you notice any difference in how it hits. Again....my cobalts vaping like a champ and I can't complain, but it is not as hot as my other 4 wrap Zenesis (except when I use a full SS switch). My last comment as I don't want people going off the deep end complaining or saying they have the same problem and creating an issue out of something that is a non issue for me. :blink:
 

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the Blue Line was NOT for sale... Annie won "it" in a contest from this thread, and you had to be at VC...the Heresey, there was only the prototype...If I recall, the MFA's were only in one size....

So, what were the different price points? Figure it had to do with the quality, fit and finish. So the price of the new products were?

Cobalt grade 1-$249 grade 2-? grade 3-?
Blue Line-?
Sidewinder-$280
zenjector $49
MFA-?
MFA mini-?
Hersey-?
??-$?

Thanks in advance.
 

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So, what were the different price points? Figure it had to do with the quality, fit and finish. So the price of the new products were?

Cobalt grade 1-$249 grade 2-? grade 3-?
Blue Line-?
Sidewinder-$280
zenjector $49
MFA-?
MFA mini-?
Hersey-?
??-$?

Thanks in advance.

This probably means nothing but here goes.

Every perfect finish APV at vapercon was $249, except the SW which was $279

Second Cobalts were $210
Third Cobalts were $199 (I think)
MFA was $199 (I think)

Zenjector $49
 

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i thought there were 4 or 5 blue lines to be sold. the first was the only free one.
the Blue Line was NOT for sale... Annie won "it" in a contest from this thread, and you had to be at VC...the Heresey, there was only the prototype...If I recall, the MFA's were only in one size....
 

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i thought there were 4 or 5 blue lines to be sold. the first was the only free one.

I believe there were 4, maybe 5, I'm not totally sure. One to be given away in a contest. The others were not for sale, and unless that changed they didn't sale, perhaps they were given away to a deserving Zenfidel or future Zenfidel. Mike never said how someone would be able to get one of the extra blue lines he brought....and I never heard anyone bugging him about it....it was quite the opposite of the thread, people were respectful and waited to find out as time went on.....or at least that was my perception. :)
 
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