Houston, we have a problem...BE nic titration results
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Kurt,
Amazing job tonight! Fantastic!
Cozzi,
I am in awe of how you handled yourself and the whole process. You are my hero!
I hope you feel better soon!
ETA: I don't ever want to hear the word CEO again.
Amazing job tonight! Fantastic!
Cozzi,
I am in awe of how you handled yourself and the whole process. You are my hero!
I hope you feel better soon!ETA: I don't ever want to hear the word CEO again.
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Well I'm glad I actually did it. Thanks for all the Kind words, and a big thanks to Cozzicon AND Brad for staying on topic and trying to get to the bottom of this dangerous debacle. We didn't, clearly, but given the PMs I am getting from vendors to test their nic, I think this was a great day for all of us. Everything changes now, and for the better. I have to be up at 5, so I will try to catch up here tomorrow. Work...what a concept. We ALL did good this last 24 hours. Thanks to everyone.
Thanks Kurt great talk, can you tell us a method or quick way to test my supplies with a PH meter alone?
Thanks
+1 Let's hope so. Keep the pressure on but reward real changes for the better no matter past mistakes.
We've had an impact in the past with things like, child-proff caps and age-verification. Let's now go for full labelling (batch IDs, dates), sample testing, ... make QC a must-have for success.
imo, BE should cease sales until the problem is fully sorted out.
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Kurt you presented yourself and the vaping community very well on the show. Thank you for that!
Just wanted to thank Kurt for this info, and for being willing to address the issue on the show. Great job Kurt, really appreciate it!
Thanks Kurt, you did a great job! Cozz, I have renewed respect for you. You did a fantastic job of keeping it all together and with finesse. I wish more would have been addressed about his other companies that he's the "CEO" of, like GV, and if this problem could happen if they or other vendors got their mislabeled nicotine.
I agree that was painful--just wow. Nice job Kurt and thanks everyone that brought this info to our attention.
It was almost as if Brad believed just his presence and calling himself the CEO dozens of times was suppose to impress us into not demanding answers. I like phrases like our production facilities. I wish someone would have asked where and what was involved with that. More about how the base comes in and who is mixing it. Is it him in his garage with the doors open? He would have just deflected the question anyway.
Forums like ECF do help police the e-cig vendors/industry. This was a great example. A problem was brought to the forum's attention, someone listened and even better did something about it. The fanboy/girl mentality sometimes works against us when people don't feel free to complain. What would have happened had a newbie DIYer gotten that 270 mg bottle? Scary stuff.
That was one clueless CEO.
It was almost as if Brad believed just his presence and calling himself the CEO dozens of times was suppose to impress us into not demanding answers. I like phrases like our production facilities. I wish someone would have asked where and what was involved with that. More about how the base comes in and who is mixing it. Is it him in his garage with the doors open? He would have just deflected the question anyway.
Forums like ECF do help police the e-cig vendors/industry. This was a great example. A problem was brought to the forum's attention, someone listened and even better did something about it. The fanboy/girl mentality sometimes works against us when people don't feel free to complain. What would have happened had a newbie DIYer gotten that 270 mg bottle? Scary stuff.
That was one clueless CEO.
Kurt, Coz - you guys did fantastic tonight. Well done, you guys are class acts.
Agreed!! He was not even very good at CYA. He mentioned thet he sells to people that he cares for and loves as a community. My impression is that he cares for and loves the money.
But kudos to Kurt for remaining respectful through the entire show
I think what Brad was saying awkwardly was that he bears legal responsibility and he's been instructed not to say too much. And maybe we should understand that and cut him a little Slack. I too was irritated by his vagueness, until I thought about it.
Thanks again, Kurt and Coz!
And thanks Brad for showing up. I'm sure it wasn't easy.
Let's hope that this incident will make every vendor test their nic--incoming and outgoing. There is no other way. We're dealing with a powerful poison here, and the sooner we all realize it, the better.
Good job, guys.
And thanks Brad for showing up. I'm sure it wasn't easy.
Let's hope that this incident will make every vendor test their nic--incoming and outgoing. There is no other way. We're dealing with a powerful poison here, and the sooner we all realize it, the better.
Good job, guys.
I agree to a point. He is a person running a small business in an industry that is regulated by us, really. He should have addressed the issue in the begining, but who knows what he saw from his end? I wish that he never had this issue, that no one ever received super high nic, but it happened and he just had the unluck of being the cautionary tale we will tell. Hopefully he can act with honor and restore safety to his product and perhaps save his reputation, but time will tell. Now I hope that all vendors will take it seriously and test their product before sending it out to us.
Maybe some honesty saying I can't comment as per my attorneys would have worked. Getting all defensive saying it was impossible because base nicotine gets mixed at a separate facility under his control or better yet it would show up in his bookkeeping if it happened, was double talk. He was downright delusional and in denial. I didn't catch any sincere concern that more of this 270mg stuff could be out there. He was an idiot to go on that show to say what he did. He can fix all his QC problems, but I'd never buy from him again based on that performance. CEO, best nic, or not.
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