Even then when you get to say over 250ml. you can be of off by as much as 1-3% or more on the flavor per bottle. not that big a deal on a 2 flavor or 1 flavor batch but when you get in to real recipes that involve flavor you would need to know the specific gravity of each concentrate as well as a very accurate scale. Back, when I bought juices, No 2 bottles were the same. I have a very sensitive pallet, i am a Trained Chef and Somalia. S0, i could notice the different notes/flavors, showing themselves as they got hotter. Some companies were horrible. ! bottle tasted good while another from same batch would make me puke. I use calculators. "I Have Used Yours." But they are only as good as the measuring and mixing that is done. I mix a 30 ml bottle for 15 minutes, after i finish adding Nic and VG, Not to mention that my flavors are being mixed before hand. your calculator is one of the best. but for big batches you need to weigh using specific gravity(not measure with a flask or syringe)And then mix (Say a 250 ml recipe) for at least 2 hours or more depending on how you mix. and then steep as a giant bottle not break up immeadiately.
How Do You Mix Your Fluids?
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Make sure water is not above 90 degrees Fahrenheit. Higher temperatures will break down nicotine turning it brown throw off the taste. And many flavors you add especially ones that have a overwhelming smell in their bottles. You will vaporize them in the bottle and lose a lot of flavor. 90 degrees is the point that nicotine begins to breaks down, some flavors can be as low as 80 degrees Fahrenheit.
The liquid barn mixer is great for 1 or 2 flavor mixes, unless you want to hold it for 15 minutes. you have to mix the flavors before adding your base.. But Please stop heating your mixes unless its 90 degrees Fahrenheit or below. An ultrasonic cleaner works great to shorten steeping time but still, never over 90 Fahrenheit. Just read any nicotine bottle you buy. Ultrasonic is not a real mixer though you have to mic first even if just shaking. The ultra sonic just allows oils to blend with with water soluble liquids. Like adding dish soap to clean oil covered dishes or alcohol to a pan of oil. They simply do the same thing acting as surfactants, allowing water to mix with oil but you still need to mix the mixture afterwards.
Oy-vehh you have to mix right when you make then depending on flavors involved there can be a lot more involved. you are missing out on so many intricacies of flavor
One important thing, IMO, that most of us have learned when DIY our eliquids is: There are many different ways to achieve the same desired end result. As long as we're happy with the way we're measuring, mixing, steeping or not, etc.... it's all great if it ends with us having eliquids that meet our needs and make our taste buds "do the happy dance"! 
The temperature that Nicotine starts to be affected is 150°F not 90°. If Nicotine was affected my normal temperatures most would be ruined during shipping.
lol I just use a syringe measure and squirt in the bottle... rinse with hot water then shake the heck out of it until it doesn't look slimy. Once it looks clear and full of air bubbles right into the tank it goes. No need to over do it
I used to duct tape my bottles to a sawzall... honest! I later modified a clamp to fit in the saw and it worked well. Eventually it broke after a year and I decided to go the ultra sonic cleaner method but it was a cheap one and stopped working after a few short months. I finally purchased a magnetic stirrer with heating plate and love it. I can mix batches up to 220ml. I heat the juice to about 140 - 150 degrees. After I'm done mixing I turn off the heat, let it cool and then add my nic.
Agreed there is more than 1 way to skin a cat. But some make it more difficult or dont give the same quality. Mine was a question on how people are doing it. Then an explanation of how I do mine. The only FACT I say is crucial is not heating above 90 degrees Fahrenheit. Your choice if you want to but check the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) on any flavors that you can find them for. Or The MSDS for Nicotine pure or mixed with base They will all ahow to keep below 90 degrees. To each their own but that is simply a fact. you may get the flavor you like by heating it because you added to much and the hot water vaporized the flavor which came out when you opened the bottle, or changed form. I have an ultra sonic, I have my magnetic mixer, but i started shaking like a lot of people.One important thing, IMO, that most of us have learned when DIY our eliquids is: There are many different ways to achieve the same desired end result. As long as we're happy with the way we're measuring, mixing, steeping or not, etc.... it's all great if it ends with us having eliquids that meet our needs and make our taste buds "do the happy dance"!
i did the same thing but instead of a saw-zaw I used my jig saw. LOL
Lately I've been measuring with graduated cylinders. Eventually I'll get a scale and measure by weigh except flavoring because I use only 1-1.5%. For mixing I shake the bottle. May be if you are in a hurry wrap the bottle in a towel and put it in the clothes dryer on cold air only. I've never done that because it just occured to me and sounds like a dumb idea, but it's funny.
I would be grateful if you would include a link (or 2 or 3) to this "FACT" (emphasis yours). I did a quick look-see and could find nothing of the sort.
All I do is mix, shake, and steep for 3 or 4 weeks. I shake the bottles daily for about 30 seconds each the first week or two. After that, they sit and steep until I sample them and decide that they are ready to go from the glass bottle to the HDPE bottles that fit my atomizer fill hole.
I like the Sawzall idea! I have a Milwalkee. But, I think I'll just keep taking the gentle route and let them sit with a daily shake session. Times heals all (most) juices.
It's interesting how tobacco flavors increase in flavor each week. Sometimes, they get too flavorful and I like them better in week two. I just got through with some that were created back in early September that were really good. Others in that batch needed a higher percentage of flavor.
I like the Sawzall idea! I have a Milwalkee. But, I think I'll just keep taking the gentle route and let them sit with a daily shake session. Times heals all (most) juices.
It's interesting how tobacco flavors increase in flavor each week. Sometimes, they get too flavorful and I like them better in week two. I just got through with some that were created back in early September that were really good. Others in that batch needed a higher percentage of flavor.
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I don't use heat at all. Shake it vigorously, taste and vape test it...if needed put it away for several days. That's it...works for me.
I'm curious about this as well.
As I'm sure we are all aware, most of these flavors are used in other goods and are not necessarily specific to ejuice. If they are are not to be used at temperatures above 90 degrees, this would rule out use in bakery items and even hot beverages so that doesn't seem very likely.
A Couple of Questions.
What happens when the Temp goes over 90F ?
Do you a Temperature Control Mod that you can set to below your Body Temperature?
Do you Vape during the Summer?
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