3 510 atty's and 2 Blu for 6 weeks in constant rotation. So far all are very much alive.
How long did your first atomizer last?
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Having just ordered a Titan Kit, this is the sort of post I want to see more of!
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even if it dosnt present a true picture.. ???
and if any supplier isnt aware atomizers have problems.. nah he cant be that unaware which simply leaves this thread as simple spam..
this is someone promoting their own business..
how long do atomizers last... we are not aware of problems with our products.. jeesh..
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to maintain maximum performance we tell our customers to chuck them every two weeks.. we dont do this for fun.. and we dont deliberately sell duff atomizers..
bullsh-t follows bullsh-t.. and when are folks going to realize the atomizer problem isnt how long before they die.. the problems is they turn into under performing wimps long before they expire completely..
the last attempt at estimating how long an atomizer remained usable was around 5000 puffs.. put your own time frame around this one.. 5000 puffs before wimp land.. i have a large pile of discarded atomizers..
probably one in twenty of my discarded atomizer are what folks on here consider dead.. the vast majority simple only perform at fraction of the level they did when new..
soooo its time folks started asking the right question.. the question should not be how long before they die.. but how long before they simply become unusable minimal vapor producing wimps..
dumb and getting dumber.. another piece of what used to be common knowledge has past away due to spammers and noobs now dominating this place..
trog
ps.. competition is now high in the e cig industry.. the bullsh-t factor is also now high and getting higher.. in this place.. noob opinion and vested interest but clever spam now seems par for the course..
is their any supplier brave enough to try and prove me wrong on this.. it should make an interesting thread..
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Trog, I was only being light hearted, the site I ordered from clearly states that they only guarantee them for 28 days and that they have an average lifespan of only 14-60 days.
I've read enough of this forum to know that regardless of what it says on the website anyways, these things are incredibly random in their reliability.
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I've read enough of this forum to know that regardless of what it says on the website anyways, these things are incredibly random in their reliability.
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Haha ..that's what I like about trog, often grumpy and abrupt but never any devious bulls**t .
the instant death factor is random.. its also isnt that common.. lets say its in the odd bit of bad luck range..
the wear out and become pretty useless after xxxx number of puffs isnt random.. its very predictable.. as i said the last attempt made many months ago by a seller was 5000 puffs..
i tried many moons ago to get the makers and sellers to quote atomizer wear out rates in a meaningful way.. in simple terms how how many puffs per atomizer before it should be replaced.. .. time is meaningless and made more so by folks who say months when they are cycling ten of the buggers..
all cycling means is they all reach the knackered stage at the same time.. then the story changes somewhat.. he he
instant death is an easy one.. gradual wear out isnt so easy.. sometime it takes a new one to be used to show just how bad the current one in use has got..
the cyclers bless their little cotton socks miss this one..
soooo sellers and makers... how may puffs should your atomizers last before their performance drops off to lets say 50% of new..
casting spells.. sacrificing chickens.. cleaning in the fresh blood of virgins and other methods of trying to make the things last longer just obscure the truth.. which is atomizers wear out pretty quickly..
i dont have a problem with atomizer needing replacing.. they are cheap enough.. i do have a problem with folks being misled which simply leads to frustration amongst new users.. mind you looking for new atomizer life prolonging spells does keep this place busy... he he
trog
100% agreement with trog on spam and atty's..............drug my first one around 3 mos and was still giving good vape until I replaced it and realized I was kicking a dead horse. I will start tossing mine now anytime I take a drag and can still see the computer screen
to finish my rant...
poor quality control isnt true.. the qualty control now is good.. we test hundreds of atomizers.. they are very reliable.. also very consistent.. one dosnt vary much from another..
the problem is a simple one.. if its a problem at all.. they are only good for xxxx number of puffs.. they start to wear out.. the wear out rate is predicable..
the other problem is that users seem to be totally oblivious to this fact.. it dosnt take a genius to work out why.. only buggers like me dare state it..
wishful thinking affects the new users and the sellers have their own reasons for obscuring the truth.. they are trying to sell products in what is now an over competitive environment..
trog
poor quality control isnt true.. the qualty control now is good.. we test hundreds of atomizers.. they are very reliable.. also very consistent.. one dosnt vary much from another..
the problem is a simple one.. if its a problem at all.. they are only good for xxxx number of puffs.. they start to wear out.. the wear out rate is predicable..
the other problem is that users seem to be totally oblivious to this fact.. it dosnt take a genius to work out why.. only buggers like me dare state it..
wishful thinking affects the new users and the sellers have their own reasons for obscuring the truth.. they are trying to sell products in what is now an over competitive environment..
trog
Hey Trog, How are you, Still LOVING my SD. So how long do you think a atomizer should last with normal use? I have been using my 510, and 901 for about almost 4 months now, I clean them out regular. Do you think if I put on new ones right now, that I would get better performance?, or the same. I personally value your opinion.
it's an 801 and I've been using it since Feb. and also the batteries that came with it are still working great. I have been alternating the 801 with a 112.
This is where it gets subjective, especially for us n00bs. (Yes, after a bit over 2 years - I still consider myself a n00b - it is about to become clear why)
Like Trog stated - I am sure you can get at least a reasonable test rate of xxxx puffs per peak use out of an atty.
Problem is though, dorks like me out there buy a unit from some guy in a smoke shop, buy some carts for it, and think 'this is great' - and just keep buying carts and puffing along. The degredation of the atty is So slow I guess that it never seems to be a problem until it gets REALLY bad. I believe this is the only reason my Pen Style NJoy lasted so long -> It was probably hurting for 6 months -- I just didn't know any better until it started really going out, and I found this place.
Now there are tons of new options, I'm playing around with a bunch of them, and still am having good success rate with attys, but see the subtle differences where I did not before. Only because people are telling me what to look for. lol
Take care,
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Like Trog stated - I am sure you can get at least a reasonable test rate of xxxx puffs per peak use out of an atty.
Problem is though, dorks like me out there buy a unit from some guy in a smoke shop, buy some carts for it, and think 'this is great' - and just keep buying carts and puffing along. The degredation of the atty is So slow I guess that it never seems to be a problem until it gets REALLY bad. I believe this is the only reason my Pen Style NJoy lasted so long -> It was probably hurting for 6 months -- I just didn't know any better until it started really going out, and I found this place.
Now there are tons of new options, I'm playing around with a bunch of them, and still am having good success rate with attys, but see the subtle differences where I did not before. Only because people are telling me what to look for. lol
Take care,
- Hap
I have been vaping for 6 months now and have had only 2 atomizer die. I rarely do maintenance on them. Maybe once a week I blow them out. When I first started vaping I did regular maintenance on them and these were the ones that quit working.
I think too much maintenance can cause problems.
I think too much maintenance can cause problems.
soooo its time folks started asking the right question.. the question should not be how long before they die.. but how long before they simply become unusable minimal vapor producing wimps..
dumb and getting dumber.. another piece of what used to be common knowledge has past away due to spammers and noobs now dominating this place..
trog
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Well I just put a new atty on and Trog Is 100% correct. What a difference!
soooo its time folks started asking the right question.. the question should not be how long before they die.. but how long before they simply become unusable minimal vapor producing wimps..
dumb and getting dumber.. another piece of what used to be common knowledge has past away due to spammers and noobs now dominating this place..
trog
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Well I just put a new atty on and Trog Is 100% correct. What a difference!
interesting stuff really.. knowing exactly when to chuck them isnt easy.. one other thing we tell our customers.. always have new spares at hand.. comparing new with old will show up the difference.. if you dont have something of known value to compare with you are lost... memory is useless..
the other thing that happens is folks compare their old semi worn out type e cig with their latest just purchased new type.. comparing new with old also creates confusing results..
the bottom line is most of the commonly sold and known e cigs all work okay when new.. but after the first couple of days the performance to slowly drops off.. this applies to both batteries and atomizers.. how long you can tolerate or remain unaware of this drop off is down to the user.. and how hard the device gets worked..
e cigs do work.. but it can be frustrating if the user is unaware of how they work or more importantly how they slowly cease to work... he he
trog
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3.5 mnths 1 evo + 2 901 atty's but am heavy user so 1 a mnth not to bad, just ordered 10 901s from TW in 30% off birthday one day sale, should last me for a while
I'm STILL using my first atomizer, because all my other ones died. I bought a DSE901 kit from PureSmoker last winter, and vaped on and off because I couldn't get away from analogs; I'm back to using old faithful because my gold band-ed 510 atomizer from TW is flakey, although I admit I haven't taken very good care of it. Both spare 510 atomizers I bought from HealthCabin.net suck, the first one lasted a month and is now burning red hot after a couple of seconds pulling, tried 70% isopropyl, a Pepsi bath, and pulling out the nylon fibers to no avail. I just got one that also tastes burnt, except I got it a couple of days ago...c'est la vie.
We have the RN4081 atomizers for our super minis and only two have died in the three months we've been vaping. Both of the ones that died did so immediatly after I cleaned them. My wife has never cleaned hers, other than to blow them out once in a while. Hers have had no problems. Not even operating at a poor level of efficiency as someone charged earlier. And I would never toss one out after a couple of weeks if it was working just fine. That's foolish. I have two new ones and I do not intend to clean ever again. If it ain't broke - don't fix it.
Bout a month on a 510 atomizer. But it was getting mighty wimpy toward the end. Just toss 'em! (My new motto for atomizers, when I'm on the 510).
I like to say "love the vaporizer, not the atomizer!" You tend to get attached to components, but eventually you're going to have to let them die an honorable death.
I had a 901 that lasted about 3 months (seriously) but I was so disappointed in the way it behaved. So, when I finally tossed it and got a new one I was like--bamm--that's what I loved about this model in the first place. There's nothing quite like recapturing that fresh out of the box feeling.
My longest 510 was about two months. I also like to replace them about once a month. I deserve a new atomizer and they really are cheap enough.
My original, original e-cig was the JOYE306A and it lasted about three months. It didn't die. It was murder. The second e-cig was the DSE103 and it's been going a good 5 months. The 103 is like a 306 only bigger. If you look at them they're just a sturdy hunk of metal.
901's seem to have about a 1 month life span. No warning, just gone.
510's seem to be very durable. I've got 4 back up atomizers just sitting in wait. My month is up on the current atomizer, but I clean it regularly give it a diet coke bath from time to time and I just can bare to toss it at this time it's doing such a great job.
Instead, I'm just going to order two more 306 atomizers to use on my 510 and try out the 510 knockoff from bestecig.
--Prof Daffy
So glad I read this thread. I've been rotating 2 atomizers for about 2 months, and after reading troggs post about waning performance I took out an (almost) new atomizer and BAM tons of vapor! I didn't know what I was missing!
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