How long does your 510 atomizer perform perfectly
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I choose 4 weeks on average. Although it's probably more like 6. Maintenance is the key for me. Just cleaned my atty last night and the clouds of vapor let me know it's worth the effort.
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My first 510 came witha TITAN atomizer....that was 3 months ago, used it every day for 2 months before buying two more....i rotate them weekly....Absolutely no maintaining of any kind, they all work as good as the first day i got them. One of them is a Burnall atomizer. Aside from that no differance.
I think the biggest key to atomizer life is not overheating them and burning them dry.
I think the biggest key to atomizer life is not overheating them and burning them dry.
I find my 510s last 2-3 weeks (i rotate 2, and one always dies about 3-4 weeks in, so id guess 2-3 weeks each). The cost atty wise is about the same as far i worked it out (for 510 and 808), but considering you get a new atty for just one flavor, so no flavor mixing/blowing out and you dont have to buy carts (the carts do get loose ect after a while) 808 has to win in my book.
My wife and I started vaping July 24 2009. I've gone trough five Atty's. My wife has not lost one. We both direct drip with no cart filling. My wife basically keeps liquid in it to the point it gurgles as she is vaping. She also blows vapor through the atomizer and the inhales repeatedly until she gets enough of a hit. Right or wrong she has gotten almost 4 months out of her atty's. I'm not sure why I lose so many. I'll just pick my ecig up after sitting for a while and the atty is stone cold. Any advice out there?
I'm going on 3 weeks now. I've cleaned the atty twice and it performs like a champ.
Well, its been months since you posted this, so this is rather late, but maybe other newcomers will take note. You pulled out the wick. Now some say it does not matter, but I say they were very lucky. I did the same to a couple of mine in the beginning, out of ignorance, and the totally wicked black attys (sounds like a deadly snake!) I got in one batch of 5 had a LOT of wick that was getting clogged all the time, even without fluid! So I pulled out the wick, knowing it was a gamble. That atty vaped like a monster, better than I thought a 510 could EVER be! I mean voluminous billows and massive hit, flavor through the roof! For 20 minutes. Then died, cold, dead, history, archives, ex-atty. Man, when I die, I sure hope its like that...top of my game, brilliant, energized, then just drop dead.
So the lesson is, boys and girls, don't pull out the wick! I don't know why that atty became the uber-atty for several minutes, but the end result was death. If they could keep working like that, I would pay $20 a piece for them, but it didn't. Since then I have learned much about fillers, liquid thickness (VG-only is too thick), and general care. 90% of wick pulling discussed here lead to death very quickly if not immediately. It must pull out some connection to the battery or something. Perhaps the wick is looped around a microwire. Dunno. Don't do it!
The life span of the atty is very hard to determine muchless control. I, like everyone else, learns more each day about this thing called the PV. The batteries have already been successfully modded many times over. The carts have also been improved and evolved to be better than stock, though they still use the original casing. The atomizer remains the only part so far that hasn't been successfully modded. The reason for this is probably simply a money issue. They are so cheap that no one could produce them for less than they can buy them for. I mean I can buy 25 510 atomizers at $5.00 each with free shipping. So you can see that there is no money in this market. Now, as long as they continue to be readily available they are considerably cheaper than cigarettes.
My best tip I can give you is to check the resistance on the atty before cleaning it. If it is still in the normal range 2 to 4 ohm (510) you should be able to restore it to usable condition with a good cleaning. Once the resistance starts to rise above 10 ohms the atty will not last much longer.
I use battery systems capable of 3.7 volts, 5 volts, and 6 volts with a lot of amperage. If you put an atty with a high resistance on an e-cig at high voltage you can kiss it goodbye. Even at 3.7 volts you will only get marginal performance from a high resistance atty.
Hope this helps someone.
My best tip I can give you is to check the resistance on the atty before cleaning it. If it is still in the normal range 2 to 4 ohm (510) you should be able to restore it to usable condition with a good cleaning. Once the resistance starts to rise above 10 ohms the atty will not last much longer.
I use battery systems capable of 3.7 volts, 5 volts, and 6 volts with a lot of amperage. If you put an atty with a high resistance on an e-cig at high voltage you can kiss it goodbye. Even at 3.7 volts you will only get marginal performance from a high resistance atty.
Hope this helps someone.
Opionions will vary (obviously)... but if you've got a 510 atty that has above 3 Ohms resistance.. then it's simply not going to vape like a 510 can/should.
For true Joye attys..... I draw the line at 2.7 Ohms.
For true Joye attys..... I draw the line at 2.7 Ohms.
ok this happened to me too, but i didnt pull out the wick with a tweezer. i soaked it in hot/boiling water for about 10 mins then blew out the water and used a blow dryer to dry. i have the exact same problems as you described with less vapor and zero/unsatisfying taste a little less throat hit. what i noticed tho after cleaning was some frayed strings kinda sticking out of the atomizer. i did not pull it out, just left it as is, but still having similar problems as you. could it be that the hot water messed things up? anyone?
Ummmm...no way!
Here's a big secret. Many vapers are now savvy to ordering more than one atty at a time. Hey! - so do I. BUT...the warranty on these is two WEEKS! So what are they doing? They get all four attys out and try them all to make sure they work! Right? Raise your hand if you've done this. NOW - NEVER DO THAT AGAIN!
Why? Because storing an atty for any length of time unused with juice in it will shorten the life considerably. EVEN if you blow it out, the juice remaining will still thicken and harden in the atty, overwork your coil -and VOILA! - one week atty anyone?
The burn method alluded to by Pete is the only way to assure this doesn't happen, but only if you do it from the start, and only if you do it correctly.
EDIT - I never let any fluid touch my atty except for unadulterated PG ejuice. No water, no cleaner, no vinegar, no peroxide, no pepsi, no nothing.
EDIT #2 - Never top up your cart before going to bed. Always vape it down to where it needs to be topped up in the morning. Leave the cart on, and unscrew the battery (if you want your battery to last in the morning). Some people stand em up. I suspend mine horizontally.
EDIT #3 - Except for the straw mod (which I highly recommend) keep your unit as stock as possible. I don't use teabags, no coffee filters, I don't pull out the coil wisk with tweezers, etc etc. - flooding the atty is a no-no. I don't drip except on a brand new atty, and only enough to prime it a bit (maybe a drop or two at the most using a very moist cart).
One more thing. I've mentioned this in many posts over the past few weeks because it is becoming apparent that noobs do not have the patience to correctly build/re-stuff a cartridge. This is the most important thing you can learn on your PV. You can't manufacture a battery, you can't manufacture an atty, but you CAN restuff the cart correctly with practice. The vast majority of problems posted on this forum are due to incorrect cart maintenance/stuffage.
kreel can you show us the proper way to do a dry burn and the proper way to stuff a cart to make your atomizers last 8 weeks?
I'm still getting 4 - 6 weeks out of mine. I don't clean them. I just blow them out when they get flooded.
You could still try dripping, I found out the hard way that prolonged soaking or to much liquid movement while soaking will fray and dislodge the wick. They still might be good for dripping but may not soak up liquid from a cart. I have thought about replacing the wick before with some fiberglass strands but have not got arount to it yet. There are only a few strands but they do seem to make a lot of difference. For my 510's I only use a few drops of PGA and blow out from the cart side to the batt side.
thanks shadow. i thought i had killed my attys, and the only alternative was to drip. i'm getting great hits now, but does dripping eat thorugh the juice fast? i mean like 4-7 really good hits and it's done using about 2-3 drops? is this normal? vaping about close to 6ML of 24mg a day. but in the short time i've been vaping i'm a semi chain vaper. is this abnormal?
also when you drip, which way is the best way to lay the PV, with the cart point up where it'll drip toward the atomizer or the batter side facing up so it does the opposite. or it's on it's side perhaps?
Ummmm...no way!
Here's a big secret. Many vapers are now savvy to ordering more than one atty at a time. Hey! - so do I. BUT...the warranty on these is two WEEKS! So what are they doing? They get all four attys out and try them all to make sure they work! Right? Raise your hand if you've done this. NOW - NEVER DO THAT AGAIN!
Why? Because storing an atty for any length of time unused with juice in it will shorten the life considerably. EVEN if you blow it out, the juice remaining will still thicken and harden in the atty, overwork your coil -and VOILA! - one week atty anyone?
The burn method alluded to by Pete is the only way to assure this doesn't happen, but only if you do it from the start, and only if you do it correctly.
EDIT - I never let any fluid touch my atty except for unadulterated PG ejuice. No water, no cleaner, no vinegar, no peroxide, no pepsi, no nothing.
EDIT #2 - Never top up your cart before going to bed. Always vape it down to where it needs to be topped up in the morning. Leave the cart on, and unscrew the battery (if you want your battery to last in the morning). Some people stand em up. I suspend mine horizontally.
EDIT #3 - Except for the straw mod (which I highly recommend) keep your unit as stock as possible. I don't use teabags, no coffee filters, I don't pull out the coil wisk with tweezers, etc etc. - flooding the atty is a no-no. I don't drip except on a brand new atty, and only enough to prime it a bit (maybe a drop or two at the most using a very moist cart).
One more thing. I've mentioned this in many posts over the past few weeks because it is becoming apparent that noobs do not have the patience to correctly build/re-stuff a cartridge. This is the most important thing you can learn on your PV. You can't manufacture a battery, you can't manufacture an atty, but you CAN restuff the cart correctly with practice. The vast majority of problems posted on this forum are due to incorrect cart maintenance/stuffage.
One week? EIGHT WEEKS?!?!?!
I'm lucky if I get 6 DAYS out of an atty! Some of them have died the second day!
But, I have been using a mod I made with a TI chip that knocks 6-12V to 4.2. However, even on batteries I have killed an atty in 10 days. Or less.
I was cleaning them with alcohol, but this REALLY does them in fast.
So, I'm at a loss. Really, at $8 an atty...And I don't get them from just one place, but a number of different suppliers, so I can't point to one and say, your attys suck!
I don't get it...
I honestly thought I was going through attys a lot faster than I really am. I had a bunch that I thought weren't any good anymore.. and I have recently resurrected them. They are back to "near new" performance. So if I look at my stash now and do the math.. hmmm.... about a month per atty is right. And I'm at 4ml a day (for reference).
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