How many ml and nicotine concentration do you suggest ?

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tazuo

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Since a week ago i was smoking around 15 marlboro light cigarette every day.
And know i have problems finding the right amount of nicotine i need.
I'm trying to regulate myself with the hit perception but maybe i'm wrong i feel the hit of the e-cig really strong but maybe i need to see another way to find the right amount.I don't understand if is to much or not.

How many ml and mg/ml concentration do you suggest me?

considering i smoked 15 x 0,6mg a day and i smoked pretty fast untill the end so not waisting to much nicotine for every sigarette

P.S. I'm not feeling really well during this day so i appreciate so much if you veterans of vaping can help me thank you in advance
 

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I smoked light cigarettes for many years and ended up starting with 24mg nic level. Anything less than that and I was getting bad cravings. I am now switching between 24, 18 and 16mg. When all my 24mg is gone I am going to use just 18 and 16mg until all my 18 is gone. I plan on staying on 16mg after that. Compared to when I started vaping I can go for longer stretches of time without vaping.
 

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I started with 18 mg, after several months I've settled on 12 mg. I smoked 2-pack a day for 40 years. and now I do have a tendecy to chain-vape. Anything more than 12 mg would make me want to take old man naps. Also, I avoided tobacco flavors for the first four months, sticking with stricktly sweet vapes. After cigarettes started smelling horrible, and the aroma of tobacco pipes reminded me of what real tobacco was, only then did I start to explore tobacco vapes. Try several vendors and several flavors/ strenghts to find your own likngs, but whatever you do DON'T start back on the stinking weed again !
 

tazuo

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There is no a a table or a chart to follow in the forum ?

I mean i don't think for istance something change between 4 ml x 9mg/ml or 2 ml x 18mg/ml cause at the end of the day you vaped in both the situation 36mg...

Ok consider with vaping our intake is not the same of regular cigarette.

If your regular intake with analogs
was 0,6mgx15=9mg x day

But i'm pretty sure 1ml x 9mg/ml x day is not the same is far less then before...

Let's say 50%?

So at least i have to vape 2mlx9mg/ml
or
1mlx18mg/ml
or even
3mlx6mg/ml

All the examples give you an intake of 18mg/day depend if you like vaping a lot and you have time or not to do it.But in all the situation your intake is 18mg/2(50% theoretical absorbtion trought vaping)=9mg=0,6mgx15 analogs....

But the problem is i don't know the average percentage of absorbtion wich is theoretical...

I just say 50% but could be 70% or 30% i really don't know.

This part should be very important to make calculations...

What you think would be right percentage trought vaping most of people think in the forum?
 

in4mati0n11

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The best advice I can give you is buy the same juice in small quantity in both 18mg and 24mg.... Vape them and whichever one makes you "feel the joy" is where you start... The main thing is to get off and stay off the cigs...

You can taper down at any time, but make it easier on yourself at first... I started at 18mg (No Joy), I tried 36mg and found that for as much as I want to vape (Frequency), I was getting headaches... So dropped down to 24mg.

There are many variables at play here... Vape frequency, delivery method, different juice mfr's...and on and on...
 

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I'll start by saying I smoked a pack of marlboros or L&M's before vaping. When I first started vaping I was using 18mg juice, but I was still smoking my PV like it was a cigarette, that being taking a lot of hits and looking for the duration of the cigarette experience. I found the more I vaped the less I dragged on it, so eventually I switched over to 24mg/mL and I just take one or two big drags here and there and I find that more gratifying than trying to drag on a PV for 5 mins. But find what works for you. I would definitely start with 18 though.

Good luck!
 

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It's difficult to pin down how much nicotine you need for vaping because it's not the same as cigarette smoking. I would try a small bottle of 2.4 mg, and a small bottle of 1.8 mg. Don't worry about how many ml/day you use. Everyone is different, so there is no "etched in stone" guideline.

Since a week ago i was smoking around 15 marlboro light cigarette every day.
And know i have problems finding the right amount of nicotine i need.
I'm trying to regulate myself with the hit perception but maybe i'm wrong i feel the hit of the e-cig really strong but maybe i need to see another way to find the right amount.I don't understand if is to much or not.

How many ml and mg/ml concentration do you suggest me?

considering i smoked 15 x 0,6mg a day and i smoked pretty fast untill the end so not waisting to much nicotine for every sigarette

P.S. I'm not feeling really well during this day so i appreciate so much if you veterans of vaping can help me thank you in advance
 

tazuo

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The best advice I can give you is buy the same juice in small quantity in both 18mg and 24mg.... Vape them and whichever one makes you "feel the joy" is where you start... The main thing is to get off and stay off the cigs...

You can taper down at any time, but make it easier on yourself at first... I started at 18mg (No Joy), I tried 36mg and found that for as much as I want to vape (Frequency), I was getting headaches... So dropped down to 24mg.

There are many variables at play here... Vape frequency, delivery method, different juice mfr's...and on and on...

As you said there are many variable
but at the end the intake would be exactly the same at the end of the day no matter if you smoke with a provari or an ego c
For example if you smoke an 8mg/ml juice with provari you will get probably the same strong hit after a puff with a regular ego with 16mg/ml...
But with provari you will finish the same amount of eliquid in half of the time.
So 2ml at 8mg/ml with provari should finish in the same time of 1ml 16mg/ml with a regular ecig...

By the way at the end of the day you vaped in both situation the same amount of nicotine and in the same time with the same hit.
So more powerful is the hardware is better to lower nicotine concentration an vape more liquid cause it will finish really fast...Each puff with provari is almost doubled so nicotine feeling is the same with less concentration.
Is not good to say for istance 12 or 18 or even 36 is better this is up to you if you want to vap less or more.
But if you vape 10 ml at 9=90 mg if you vape 1 ml at 36=36 mg by far less nicotine in the second case...

The only method to calculate the nicotine intake is to know how many ml and mg/ml at the end of the day.

The most important thing would be the comparison between regular cigarette mg intake and trought vaping intake.

If you think vaping absorption is 50% you have to double your average intake of mg calculate with analog.
If is 20% you have to multiply x 5...

You know what i mean?

Unlucky there are no study.
But woul be nice to know how many mg people vape now in comparison when they smoked...

Let's say i'm vaping 2ml x 11mg/ml =22 mg vaping

I smoked 15x0,6 mg=9 mg smoking

So i changed from 9mg to 22mg and i'm fine like this...


Saying just the concentratio doesn't help for nothing cause you can vape from 0,5 to 10 ml a day so what's the point?
 

in4mati0n11

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As you said there are many variable
but at the end the intake would be exactly the same at the end of the day no matter if you smoke with a provari or an ego c
For example if you smoke an 8mg/ml juice with provari you will get probably the same strong hit after a puff with a regular ego with 16mg/ml...
But with provari you will finish the same amount of eliquid in half of the time.
So 2ml at 8mg/ml with provari should finish in the same time of 1ml 16mg/ml with a regular ecig...

By the way at the end of the day you vaped in both situation the same amount of nicotine and in the same time with the same hit.
So more powerful is the hardware is better to lower nicotine concentration an vape more liquid cause it will finish really fast...Each puff with provari is almost doubled so nicotine feeling is the same with less concentration.
Is not good to say for istance 12 or 18 or even 36 is better this is up to you if you want to vap less or more.
But if you vape 10 ml at 9=90 mg if you vape 1 ml at 36=36 mg by far less nicotine in the second case...

The only method to calculate the nicotine intake is to know how many ml and mg/ml at the end of the day.

The most important thing would be the comparison between regular cigarette mg intake and trought vaping intake.

If you think vaping absorption is 50% you have to double your average intake of mg calculate with analog.
If is 20% you have to multiply x 5...

You know what i mean?

Unlucky there are no study.
But woul be nice to know how many mg people vape now in comparison when they smoked...

Let's say i'm vaping 2ml x 11mg/ml =22 mg vaping

I smoked 15x0,6 mg=9 mg smoking

So i changed from 9mg to 22mg and i'm fine like this...


Saying just the concentratio doesn't help for nothing cause you can vape from 0,5 to 10 ml a day so what's the point?

I gave you "my" best advice.... Not necessarily "the" best advice.....

I try not to think about these things too much, it makes my head hurt just like 36mg nic juice does. :D
 

tazuo

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I'll start by saying I smoked a pack of marlboros or L&M's before vaping. When I first started vaping I was using 18mg juice, but I was still smoking my PV like it was a cigarette, that being taking a lot of hits and looking for the duration of the cigarette experience. I found the more I vaped the less I dragged on it, so eventually I switched over to 24mg/mL and I just take one or two big drags here and there and I find that more gratifying than trying to drag on a PV for 5 mins. But find what works for you. I would definitely start with 18 though.

Good luck!

You all suggest at least 18mg but don't you think the hit is much more stronger than it was with regular cigarette.
Yesterday i was vaping a juice at 16mg/ml and i tried just a puff of marlboro light and i founded with a very light hit...
Hit has having something to do with nicotine intake or is normal that e-cig always have stronger hit for the same intake ?
 

in4mati0n11

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You all suggest at least 18mg but don't you think the hit is much more stronger than it was with regular cigarette.
Yesterday i was vaping a juice at 16mg/ml and i tried just a puff of marlboro light and i founded with a very light hit...
Hit has having something to do with nicotine intake or is normal that e-cig always have stronger hit for the same intake ?

We haven't even gone into PG vs VG and its effects on the "Hit".... like I said, many variables.... Good news is there is a lot of good folks here that have done a lot of testing and documentation in this forum...
 

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There aren't any charts to answer this question or any one-size-fits-all answers.

Everyone has a different vaping technique and they spend different amounts of time vaping. Some vaping techniques deliver more nicotine than others and newcomers are most likely to use PVs like a cigarette, getting less nicotine in the process.

I agree with the others in suggesting 18 mg juice for the OP. based on what was previously smoked and how much. If the vaping technique is good then 2 ml per day will do. That ml amount can easily be doubled if the OP's vaping technique is less than optimal.

Vaping technique: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/337017-inhalation-technique-e-cigarette.html
 
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