How many ML of flavoring for 30ml juice?

[son et lumiere]

I am at freedomsmokeusa and strictlyejuice and I am noticing that flavorings are pretty cheap so is the nicotine 500ml of 36mg for $85 at strictlyejuice and 5ml of flavoring for $5.69. I am thinking about starting to diy my juice because of the cost but many ml would I need to use all 500ML of juice?

 

[Bahnzo]

FSUSA's FA flavoring is actually quite expensive. You can get it much cheaper at ecigexpress.com. Do some reading and download the e-juice calc stickied in this forum.

 

[son et lumiere]

Thanks I'm reading right now. Know of any other cheap sites that carry more FlavorArt flavorings?

 

[DaDuke]

Huh, quite impressive if that's not diluted flavourart. I checked into ordering direct from Italy and 20mls is roughly 6.10. ecigexpress.com is selling 30mls for 6.99. I'm a bit skeptical. Anyone actually compare theirs to the other suppliers and know if they are pure and not cutdown versions or something? Dang shame they're out of capp and tiramisu.

 

[Switched]

I am at freedomsmokeusa and strictlyejuice and I am noticing that flavorings are pretty cheap so is the nicotine 500ml of 36mg for $85 at strictlyejuice and 5ml of flavoring for $5.69. I am thinking about starting to diy my juice because of the cost but many ml would I need to use all 500ML of juice?

Between 50 and 100ml for 10-20% It's not the nic liquid that is expensive or even the PG or VG it's the flavouring.

 

[son et lumiere]

Well its 99.9999% pure nicotine and 99.91 VG. So it produces tons of vapor. Is there anything else that is the same grade that is less expensive?

 

[Bahnzo]

Huh, quite impressive if that's not diluted flavourart. I checked into ordering direct from Italy and 20mls is roughly 6.10. ecigexpress.com is selling 30mls for 6.99. I'm a bit skeptical. Anyone actually compare theirs to the other suppliers and know if they are pure and not cutdown versions or something? Dang shame they're out of capp and tiramisu.

They say they are straight from FA in Italy. The bottles I got seem to be just that, FA labels and not a third party bottle/label.

 

[DaDuke]

I contacted them and they said they do repackage it here from much larger containers. They didn't mention the labeling so i guess they're getting FA labels to add to the repackaged bottles or permission to print them here. They did say that the flavs are full strength and not diluted in the repackaging. I'm going to be placing a large order with them since i cant order direct in large enough volume to beat their price.

 

[Hoosier]

I've ordered flavoring, FA, from ecigexpress and they live up to their name. They do ship quickly and the flavoring works correctly in my FA recipes.

Wish they carried all the flavors I usually use, but otherwise I have been pleased with them.

 

[mianker]

I've ordered flavoring, FA, from ecigexpress and they live up to their name. They do ship quickly and the flavoring works correctly in my FA recipes.

Wish they carried all the flavors I usually use, but otherwise I have been pleased with them.

I have ordered both from ecigexpress and directly from FA and have not noticed a difference in the amount of flavor I need to add in recipes. I will deffinately continue to order from ecigexpress.

 

[bearscreek]

If they recommend starting at 1% for FA, does that mean 1% of the total? I just want to put some Shade or Desert Ship in some liquid I already have sitting around that doesn't seem tasty enough. I suspect I should put 0.1 mL into 10 mL? Sound about right?

 

[Hoosier]

Yeah, when we use 10% flavor that means 1ml of a 10ml batch is flavor. Percent of total. Working it anyother way really complicates the math.

 

[bearscreek]

I thought so, but it's odd that they suggest 1% but you guys are using 10%. I haven't done all that much DIY, at least not with super-exact percentages in the mixture.

 

[Switched]

IMHO 1-2% = yuck. This is where people get turned off from tobacco flavours. At 6% the nuances of the flavour start to come out and start to shine at 8%.

I believe FA's 1% is extreeeeeeemely conservative.

BTW these are straight up and not mixed with anything else per se, and I would definitely not go that high to "doctor" something up

 

[bearscreek]

I think I'll just shoot a few drops in here and there and see what happens. It's not a huge deal anyway. I guess I really need to just start making some stuff from recipes one of these days.

 

[DaDuke]

Without very precise pipetting devices it can be difficult to mix accurately. Generally 10 mls is around 160-170 drops according to google searches converting drams to ml and drops. So 5% of 10ml should be roughly 8 drops.

 

[GoodDog]

I think that's too low, DaDuke. Capella drops may be about 20 per mil but the small droppers from PA are more around 24. Best thing to do is drop from whatever measuring devise you plan on using and count how many you get for 1ml.

 

[Switched]

^^affirmative^^

 

[DaDuke]

ah, right., good point. I've always used the same dropper for measuring all fluids but even the different viscosities can affect the size of the drop. All that's gonna end with the arrival of my new pipette pumps and lab gear.

 

[DaveP]

I'm eventually going to get into DIY but it will be more from a flavor standpoint than convenience. I find that a lot of my mail order juices are weak in the flavor department. Vanilla and chocolate are two examples. Once I had those two from who knows where that were pretty strong. The ones I have ordered from two recent suppliers are barely detectable flavors. I was thinking of buying some Lorann flavor and putting a drop or two into a 10ml bottle. What do you guys think? Add a drop, shake and let sit overnight?