How many people are vaping all over the world?

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Daniel Park

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I have a few friends whom I want to recommend e-cig.
But they are worried about the safety.

How can I make them relieve with a brief explanation?
If I tell them the number of people who are vaping all over the world and no critical symptoms for long long times, it will be effective?

Let me know, …
How many people are vaping all over the world.
Is there really no critical symptoms for long long times?
When does e-cig begin to be popularized?

What would you say if you were in my case?
 

Shortstuff116

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There is a lot that can be said in favor of e-cigs, but as far as the number of people vaping no one really has any hard numbers that I know of. I did read one time that one of the largest selling e-cig companies sold over 600,000 units in the first 2 years of business, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

There is no hard evidence that has shown that e-cigs are either harmless or harmful. I've also read that not one report of serious illness or death has been attributed to the use of e-cigs.

Others will chime in here and provide much more information for you.

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Daniel Park, if your friends are currently smokers they would greatly benefit from using e-cigs instead. If they are NOT currently smokers there is very little chance that they will enjoy them very much.

E-cigs are meant to be used by smokers who either are unable or unwilling to quit smoking and due to their high expense in having to buy and replace all the components and because they require quit a bit of maintenance throughout the day, we find that non-smokers tire of them quite easily.

Here are some facts that I copied from the petition at the top of the page:



FACT: There is NO evidence of any harm or illness, due to electronic cigarettes, during the five years they have been on the world market.

FACT: Testing by the FDA and independent labs has shown that electronic cigarettes do not have toxic levels of chemicals and contain no more carcinogens than FDA-approved smoking cessation products.

FACT: Electronic cigarettes are advertised to and largely used by ADULT committed smokers, the majority of whom have no intention of quitting nicotine use in the near future.

FACT: There is no verifiable evidence to show that children/teens are attracted to electronic cigarettes.

FACT: Accusations that electronic cigarette advertising is targeting children is based entirely on the false assumption that adult smokers would not be attracted to candy flavors or electronic “gadgets.”

FACT: The overwhelming majority of electronic cigarette retailers already have implemented policies against sales to minors and anecdotal reports of minors purchasing electronic cigarettes are extremely rare.

FACT: Electronic cigarettes have been shown to be tens of thousands of times less toxic and less carcinogenic than traditional cigarettes.

FACT: The majority of electronic cigarettes users discontinue smoking traditional tobacco.

FACT: If electronic cigarettes are removed from the U.S. market, the majority of electronic cigarette owners will turn to ordering the devices from China or worse, return to smoking traditional cigarettes.

FACT: Electronic cigarettes pose little, if any, risk to the general public, yet their removal from the market would have a huge, negative impact on the hundreds of thousands of actual users of the devices.
 

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No-one right now can guarantee these are safe, but then the cigarettes your friends are smoking are PROVEN not safe. Its thier choice, something PROVEN not safe or something that MIGHT be SAFER - no-one is going to say for sure PVs won't cause some harm in 10 years time because they havent been out that long yet and nobody knows. We are going on annecdotal evidence from users, and many have been using PV for over a year (some longer) without side effects (certainly no side effects comparable to cigarette smoking).
Maybe your friends should have reserached cigaretes in the same details before they started smoking - I know if I had I might not have started, but I didn't, and neither did most people. By the time they were aware of the dangers they had ceased to care.
 

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Thanks.

Yes, I already said so.
But it was not enough.

i get that from smokers sometimes, and it just boggles my mind. now i'm definitely not one of those people who look down on smokers because i vape, but it's ridiculous when someone looks at me strangely and says, "are you sure that's safe?" as they puff on a cigarette. please!

i mean you can count the number of ingredients in e-juice on one hand, while cigarettes have 4000+ including arsenic! all which btw, are FDA "approved". :rolleyes:
 

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It would be hard to give a figure on this. Some people have only got one PV, while others may have ten, so sales figures won't help a lot.
Here in the UK, in my area, i don't know anyone else that vapes, people i have spoken to, have never heard of the E-Cigs. Even Doctors and nurses and local pharmacists have not heard about them and it appears from the UK forum, the amount of feedback on there is very slow and from just a few people scattered around the UK.

We are the Guinea pigs, the people that smoke analogues, the people that would probably die anyway of cancer or other tobacco related disease. Therefore we have nothing to lose, but possibly lots to gain by using the Electric PV's,....if we are lucky.
 

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Electronic cigarettes were invented in 2003 in China by Hon Lik. They have only existed for 7 years however they are pretty much the same thing as a fog machine. Fog machines have been used in theatre productions for a long time and I have never heard of ill effects reported by stage hands from breathing the vapor from fog machines.
 

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Electronic cigarettes were invented in 2003 in China by Hon Lik. They have only existed for 7 years however they are pretty much the same thing as a fog machine. Fog machines have been used in theatre productions for a long time and I have never heard of ill effects reported by stage hands from breathing the vapor from fog machines.

That is a very good argument.
If I understand right, the only real difference between the ECig Vapor, and the fog machines is pretty much the Nicotine and Flavorings.


But here's what I'd say...

"You do know that your cigarettes are proven to cause cancer right? You DO Know that, don't you? So you go ahead and keep smoking those, I'm gonna sit over there and inhale some flavored water and nicotine instead."


You can also show them this
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,932876,00.html
A study from 1942 on propelyn glycol (then main incredient of the Ejuice).
Shown to be completely safe, and actually kills germs.

This paragraph from that article says it all

Dr. Robertson placed groups of mice in a chamber and sprayed its air first with propylene glycol, then with influenza virus. All the mice lived. Then he sprayed the chamber with virus alone. All the mice died.
 
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Judging from all the web stores that are all over the world, I would have to say that they must have a good following.

Ireland, England, France, Germany, The Netherlands ETC. There are also mods from Romania, Australia, and Croatia.

People are tired of being held captive by the analog companies and the government taxes not to mention all the illness that analogs cause.

The government has always proclaimed that they have the peoples best interests at heart. I say BULL .....
 

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Government / Peoples best interest....LOL. Those two things don't go in the same sentence.

We are supposed to be Innocent until proven guilty. At least in the US.
So realistically, letter of the law, the burden of proof lies with the Anti-Ecig Groups.
They have to prove they are bad, we don't have to prove they are safe.

But, we all know that isn't how it works.
Because it's the Anti Ecig (pro tobacco) groups that have all the money.
They can pay for bogus reports, payoff officials etc...

If the Govt. really had our best interests at heart, they wouldn't even consider banning Ecigs.
 
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Col. Gaunt

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I hear you but no one else is gonna listen in DC!

The thing that is really scary about our government is that for such an advanced nation as the United States is then how come they STILL have not cleaned up Louisiana?

Now there is that oil spill!

Disaster preparedness? HA!

They can spend the time and the money to attack e-cigs but they cant help the vets, elderly, developmentally disabled, homeless etc.

Yup, real good priority's!
 

mistinthewoods

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jonmo, Col., I used to think that everyone in the government was an a**hole too but I've been paying much closer attention for the last ten years and there actually ARE some members of congress and a few senators that are there to serve the interest of the people. Actually more now than there was five years ago. It is possible for america to become a democracy again, but this is a pretty big ship to turn around. It'll take time but I see it starting to happen.
 
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