How Safe Are Electronic Cigarettes?

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wv2win

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One more BS and poorly research article on vaping. Isn't it ironic that the "so-called experts" love to tell people to stick with NRT products like nic gum and patches, but neglect to mention the failure rate for these products is 93%. Or that the "contaminates" found in just two of the few cartridges the FDA tested, is the same contaminates and in the same levels as in NRT products. And the "reporter" (must use that term very loosely) didn't interview experts such as Bill Godshaw or Dr Seigel or anyone from the Harm Reduction area of expertise.
 

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One more BS and poorly research article on vaping. Isn't it ironic that the "so-called experts" love to tell people to stick with NRT products like nic gum and patches, but neglect to mention the failure rate for these products is 93%. Or that the "contaminates" found in just two of the few cartridges the FDA tested, is the same contaminates and in the same levels as in NRT products. And the "reporter" (must use that term very loosely) didn't interview experts such as Bill Godshaw or Dr Seigel or anyone from the Harm Reduction area of expertise.

Perhaps you should contact her via the Parade Magazine site.
 

tommy2bad

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How can e-Cigarettes be considered Unsafe, or Safe for that matter, when there is No One Agreed upon Standard to what is even in an e-Liquid?

Or that No Long Term Studies can be performed because Habitual use of e-Cigarettes hasn't be going on for Long Enoug?

It would be a balance of probabilities thing. Figuring how safe they might be in a large population shouldn't be that hard especially as they comparator is proven unsafe.
 

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How can e-Cigarettes be considered Unsafe, or Safe for that matter, when there is No One Agreed upon Standard to what is even in an e-Liquid?

Or that No Long Term Studies can be performed because Habitual use of e-Cigarettes hasn't be going on for Long Enoug?

There have been more than enough studies to know that it is 100% safer than smoking and in the same realm as using NRT products if one will just read the studies. And as far as long term, that applies to every product in the last 10 - 20 years used by consumers. Is using a cell phone safe from a long term standpoint? Are energy drinks safe long term? Your point is obtuse.
 

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They ask the wrong question. The question should be posed to the two "experts" quoted in the article:

How safe is it to continue smoking?

Their answer will no doubt be something like, "Well, we said, over and over, smokers should use the FDA-approved smoking cessation treatments."

To which the response would be, "Well, duh! Why didn't WE think of that. Sorry about the sarcasm, but you seem to be unaware that every year 40% of smokers try to quit, (NOTE: in 2009, that would have been about 18 million people). Between 1990 and 2009, the number of smokers hovered right around 45 million. That tells us that very, very few people are succeeding by following your advice.

"The CDC tells us that about 395,000 smokers will die each year*, and about 1000 people per day (365,000 / year) become new daily smokers**. Do the math.

If the number of smokers has been remaining static (up until 2010, that is), then only about 30,000 smokers managed to quit each year. That represents 1/10 of 1% of the 18 million who tried to quit. What happened in 2010 to make the number of smokers start going down? People started using e-cigarettes instead of using your recommended products. So it would appear that switching works better."

To which they would no doubt answer, "You have to keep trying."

To which our next response would be, "Again, how safe is it for me to continue smoking?"

To which if they are honest, they might respond, "Well, as you know that really isn't safe at all. You should keep trying and quit."

To which we might press the matter, "How much more hazardous is it to switch to an e-cigarette and stop inhaling smoke immediately than it is to continue smoking, quitting, and relapsing over and over for years on end?"

To which they will probably weasel: "Well, we really don't know for sure how hazardous using an e-cigarette might be."

To which we can reply, "Well, we can tell you from personal experience that we feel healthier and our doctor tells us we ARE healthier since we switched to an e-cigarette. What do you have to say about that?"

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* CDC - Fact Sheet - Tobacco-Related Mortality - Smoking & Tobacco Use
** CDC Online Newsroom - Press Release - US high school students improve motor vehicle-related health behaviors June 7, 2012
 

Bill Godshall

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This same propaganda (with "Stay Healthy" as its top headline) was in today's Pittsburgh Post Gazette as well.

The only so-called "experts" they cited were drug industry financed ACS' Tom Glynn and Legacy's Nathan Cobb, who have been spitting out fear mongering propaganda on e-cigarettes since 2009 when they first urged FDA to ban the products.

Of course the author of this Big Pharma funded propaganda failed to point out any of these facts, or that 13 federal judges rejected FDA's false and misleading fear mongering claims about e-cigarettes when they struck down the FDA's unlawful ban in 2010 and 2011.
 

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I read the article and thought it was full of non information. At least it is making people more aware of an alternative. What irritates me most is that Dr's are so afraid of lawsuits that they will never go out on a limb and say they think it's safer. To keep their malpractice insurance lower they always take the safe "FDA Approved" route. I hate it but until the malpractice laws get changed there isn't much they can do I guess.
 

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I know that more research is needed to answer this question accurately however my personal opinion is that e cigs have to be safer than smoking. This opinion is both on what I know about cigarettes and the thousands of chemicals that are inhaled when using them and also from personal experience in feeling like a new person since using my electronic cigarette.

There has been a recent study by a Dr Konstantinos Farsalinos that shows using an e cig is beneficial to a smoker...you can have a look at the infographic with the statistics here...

Are Electronic Cigarettes Safe? | E Liquid Blog
 
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