Burning question here..Are the majority of Ejuices made in professional, quality controlled labs like products you would find in a grocery/drug store or made by mom and pop shops in their basement? I'm new to vaping but the juices I have bought don't look like professional products at all (no ingredients/labels/etc other than what the flavor is). What goes into the PG/VG mixture to give it say..a tobacco flavor/vanilla flavor/peach flavor? How safe do you think the typical ejuice you buy off the internet really is and where is it typically made and by who?
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Personally, I would buy my juices only from the vendors you find on this forum as they're all known for good quality products. I would assume that carries over to their juice as well. The flavors are generally going to come from candy flavoring.
Are you asking if they are "safe" or "consistent?"
As long as the products they use to mix their juices are of good quality then it shouldn't be an issue...unless they are mixing it in a toilet or something
And some of these "Made in America" juices are incorrect..why..all the components they used to "mix it" came from China shipments...
Honestly would like to know if they got their Nicotine concentrate made in America...or "imported to America" to an American company from a Chinese distributor
As long as the products they use to mix their juices are of good quality then it shouldn't be an issue...unless they are mixing it in a toilet or something
And some of these "Made in America" juices are incorrect..why..all the components they used to "mix it" came from China shipments...
Honestly would like to know if they got their Nicotine concentrate made in America...or "imported to America" to an American company from a Chinese distributor
I wouldnt know because I havent been to the major juice makers mixing rooms. Do you really think people gather up their juice making supplies and go downstairs in a dirty moldy corner of their basement and mix up juice ?
I make my own at my kitchen table. A syringe to one substance, then to another, then to another and then cap it off.
Do you think I need a stainelss steel room with professional air scrubbers and me wearing a bio suit ? They dont do that at Coca Cola Bottling Co.
Sorry for the smart alec remarks, but I see posts like this quite often and while I understand your concern, its not rocket science. Im sure your vendor would tell you whats in it, with the exception of the mixture of their food flavorings. Coca Cola wont give you that either.
Just my opinion.
I make my own at my kitchen table. A syringe to one substance, then to another, then to another and then cap it off.
Do you think I need a stainelss steel room with professional air scrubbers and me wearing a bio suit ? They dont do that at Coca Cola Bottling Co.
Sorry for the smart alec remarks, but I see posts like this quite often and while I understand your concern, its not rocket science. Im sure your vendor would tell you whats in it, with the exception of the mixture of their food flavorings. Coca Cola wont give you that either.
Just my opinion.
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The flavorings are coming from different parts of the world. Always have been. These are the same flavorings that go into every product with artificial or natural flavors at any grocery store you go to.
Good point, if we were heating and inhaling flavorings from the food in our grocery stores. Don't know about anyone else, but I eat stuff from a grocery which goes through my digestive tract, not inhale and go through my respiratory. Most of these flavorings have been tested for consumption, not sure about inhaling. Just say'in..
I think it's a ligit question and one that I was curious about as well. I feel like if a supplier is good, cares about our health versus profit, they shouldn't have a problem labeling whats in their juices or providing info. There are some USA suppliers that follow FEMA/GRAS flavoring and I try and stick w/those.
for those of us with asthma we inhale pg/vg a few times a day. not so much on the flavoring though. i do wish the stuff tasted better though
I will admit that my first purchase of e-juice was fro m a guy in a flea market and he mixed up my flavors right then and there...at the time I was just happy to have my vape (yes I way overpaid for a blister pack knock-off) and 2 bottles of liquid. A few days later it hit me that buying the liquids mixed in that manner may not have been the smartest choice. In less than a week I could not tolerate either flavor he had made and purchased a bottle from a local B&M that was commercially made. It was enough to tide me over until a couple of samplers I mail ordered came in.
I have no worries about buying from vendors recommended on this site, I just research reviews and go from there...I have found that I do not like tobaccos and I do prefer all natural vapes to avoid chemical after tastes.
SDo I guess in a nutshell...yes I do think the e-liquids I now buy are safe
I have no worries about buying from vendors recommended on this site, I just research reviews and go from there...I have found that I do not like tobaccos and I do prefer all natural vapes to avoid chemical after tastes.
SDo I guess in a nutshell...yes I do think the e-liquids I now buy are safe
SO your trying to say you won't buy my Juice ? I mix it in my Bathroom, in the tub, I let it steep sitting on the sink. Something wrong with that?
LOL, J/k I think most are fine, as long as others have said they ordered from the, I did order from one place that no one else on here seems to ever used but it was super cheap. But i don't like the taste so won't order again.
LOL, J/k I think most are fine, as long as others have said they ordered from the, I did order from one place that no one else on here seems to ever used but it was super cheap. But i don't like the taste so won't order again.
If your that concerned about inhaling any of these ingredienats, you should quit right now. Just kick the habbit all together. We dont know of the long term dangers. We wont know for years. These forums seem to show every report and test that comes down the pike ( love ECF because of this ) Ive not seen anything that would sway me yet, but thats my decision. The day I do read something that concerns me enough to quit, then I will have a decision to make. Each of us will.
Even if vendors told you exactly what flavorings they put in their juices, you still wouldn't know if it's "safe" since there haven't been any long term studies of the effects of inhaling vaporized flavorings. That being said, it feels and tastes a whole lot better than inhaling tobacco/additive smoke.
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I kinda get the whole wondering thing, I don't want to grow extra appendages. But like was mentioned above, compared to cigs???? I'll take my chances for now and leave that worry for those out there who do.
I don't see any real negatives with it. Keeping well hydrated will logically make sense that what VG&PG are metabolized down to would flush out easily. Your body already deals with those compounds, not to mention they are water soluble. I don't know about flavorings, but regardless, does it matter? It isn't worse than cigarettes. I don't need a scientific study to understand that when comparing the chemicals of both things.
Yeah I was gonna say a heck of a lot safer than cigarettes...
In general, my thinking is that it's probably not quite as safe as breathing fresh air, but considerably safer than cigarettes. And that's probably still true even if one particular ingredient turns out to be carcinogenic.
I guess if I were a pessimist, I would think back to the Kent Micronite filter which, for a time (long before my time, actually) contained asbestos. It turns out you would have been better off sticking with the unfiltered cigs. So if there's something along those lines, I guess I'm willing to take my chances. It doesn't seem particularly likely.
It seems to me slightly more likely that a particular batch of e-liquid will turn out to contain some sort of toxic chemical as a result of a mix-up at the factory. In other words, when the employee reached for the bottle of PG, they actually grabbed the bleach. Or possibly more likely, the mixed up a batch with a dangerously high level of nicotine.
Again, I'm willing to take my chances with those as well. After all, there could be a similar mix-up with any kind of food or beverage product, and I don't spend much time worrying about those possibilities. I have started buying my e-juice in advance, which provides me some protection. Presumably, if there's a tainted batch floating around, I would eventually hear about it before I opened mine. Also, I do tend to add the new bottle to what I've already been using, so if one bottle has a potential nicotine overdose waiting for me, at least I'll be diluting it, and would probably notice the problem.
So I guess it's prudent to consider the risks, but not allow yourself to be paralyzed by them.
I guess if I were a pessimist, I would think back to the Kent Micronite filter which, for a time (long before my time, actually) contained asbestos. It turns out you would have been better off sticking with the unfiltered cigs. So if there's something along those lines, I guess I'm willing to take my chances. It doesn't seem particularly likely.
It seems to me slightly more likely that a particular batch of e-liquid will turn out to contain some sort of toxic chemical as a result of a mix-up at the factory. In other words, when the employee reached for the bottle of PG, they actually grabbed the bleach. Or possibly more likely, the mixed up a batch with a dangerously high level of nicotine.
Again, I'm willing to take my chances with those as well. After all, there could be a similar mix-up with any kind of food or beverage product, and I don't spend much time worrying about those possibilities. I have started buying my e-juice in advance, which provides me some protection. Presumably, if there's a tainted batch floating around, I would eventually hear about it before I opened mine. Also, I do tend to add the new bottle to what I've already been using, so if one bottle has a potential nicotine overdose waiting for me, at least I'll be diluting it, and would probably notice the problem.
So I guess it's prudent to consider the risks, but not allow yourself to be paralyzed by them.
While I doubt most USA juice is mixed in super sanitary, climate controlled labs while wearing hazmat suits, I do think most small USA vendors take more care with their products. America is a law suit happy country and I have to believe most vendors care about quality and repeat customers. I don't think the the vast majority can afford or survive a law suit from dirty, improperly prepared products with iffy chemicals. From that I've read, most just use 4 ingredients, FDA approved nicotine, PG, VG and flavoring. They are vapors who've turned their hobby into a business. Bottom line, I trust small vapor producers a lot more than I'd trust a big one, including big tobacco when they finally turn out liquid. Who knows what will be in those bottles.
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