I have an antique duck press. I'll just toss in some PG, a little VG and some tobacco and squeeze the nic out...
How to Get Around Future E Cig Taxes
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I am curious also. I am afraid it is pretty poor method of extraction.
I didn't extract nic. I just posted the info from an old ecf thread (in the link above the quote)
***This is from an old ECF thread. It's not my post. I'm providing attribution by quoting the author and including the link.***
Originally Posted by: BurnRubber on 12-26-2009, 09:49 PM
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/54156-method-i-used-extract-nicotine.html
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I just edited the post to make the attribution clearer. I'll try to reach the author to get them to chime in on this thread.
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That's really the point, is it not? Producers are paying for that, not consumers.
So, maybe I should have been more specific earlier: "Would you support a new, "reasonable tax", at the CONSUMER's expense, on manufactured foods also??"
Because you seem to be OK with VAPERS, not e-juice producers, being forced to pay additional taxes (other than sales tax), to cover for the "cost" of the same kind of regulations that are already applied to food items.
First you'll need people to agree on what's a "reasonable" tax. That's a tough one 
I have to chuckle here. You, Rossum, myself and several others on here are lone wolves rather than pack wolves; it is our nature to veer from the crowd. Periodically, I have found that a very loose association with a selected crowd for limited purposes and for limited times to be helpful in maintaining my independence. So, like you, the esteemed Curmudgeon and many others, I have joined CASAA to add to the numbers and to the treasury of the group, CASAA. Every group changes from a movement with a defined purpose into an organization whose purpose then becomes its own existence with intricate structure, political hierarchies and a primary concern for its own growth. At that point, I will go.
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First you'll need people to agree on what's a "reasonable" tax. That's a tough one
If the Feds taxed e-Liquid use at $1.01 per day for the Average e-Cigarette User, would You consider that to be Reasonable?
If you refer to the debt [now over 18 T], there is no intention to fill that hole - never is, never will be. Any revenue raked in will go for new spending and the debt will grow. Politicians are or will become thieves at heart. They have no concern for the nation nor for the individual, they first care about re-election and then about increasing their own wealth. Too few of us are concerned about debt to make them fear re-election.
If you look back at my other arguments I defined both sensible regulation and reasonable tax. I think it should be either a licensing fee say $200-300 per year or a flat tax of $5 per litre, billed to the producers.
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That's really the point, is it not? Producers are paying for that, not consumers.
So, maybe I should have been more specific earlier: "Would you support a new, "reasonable tax", at the CONSUMER's expense, on manufactured foods also??"
Because you seem to be OK with VAPERS, not e-juice producers, being forced to pay additional taxes (other than sales tax), to cover for the "cost" of the same kind of regulations that are already applied to food items.
Producers pass the tax or fee on to consumers and so, we pay the tax - we just don't pay enough attention to realize that. A producers is merely a tax collector. It's like taxing any evil corporation. A corporation is merely a pass through device from consumer to government. But we all cheer wildly when a corporation gets gouged by the tax man.
So very true -- when the polio vaccine(s) were finally a reality and polio basically went the way of the dodo, what was The March of Dimes to do? They "adopted" muscular dystrophy, but that's a really rare condition; I suppose they may also work to raise money for ALS (gehrig's disease) research, but that's also fairly rare. They're still around, but by vanquishing polio, they nearly put themselves out of business. And that's exactly what's going to happen to the various charities that have been screeching and whining for years about quitting smoking; now there actually is a way that millions might do that easily, but are they happy?
Of course not; a) they didn't invent and patent it, and b) the cure for smoking might easily put them out of business -- they will very shortly have outlived their usefulness. What hypocrites. And yes, I did just compare vaping to the polio vaccine; I think the analogy is quite apt. I don't think anyone thought that polio victims, since they were silly enough to catch it, deserved to just die, and that's the msg we need to be spreading, shouting, hollering from the rooftops.If we ever manage to get the dimwits in DC (and other hotbeds of that virulence called government) to figure out that vaping is NOT smoking, then yeah, it might be time for me to go my own way, but it appears that this might be a lengthy battle. Good thing that switching to vaping gives us all a much longer life expectancy.
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Let me Rephrase that. Because I don't see a way to Tax 0mg e-Liquids. They are Not going to be Deemed a "Tobacco Product".
If the Feds taxed e-Liquid use at $1.01 per day for the Average e-Cigarette User using up from 1mg to 18mg, would You consider that to be Reasonable?
I suggest a visit to the Media and General News section, in Canada 0 nic will be treated exactly like nic.
No. As we've already seen with cigarettes, once such a tax is established, it will only grow year after year. The real question would be "If the Feds taxed e-Liquid use for an initial $1.01 per day for the Average e-Cigarette User using up from 1mg to 18mg, then increase that tax yearly, would You consider that to be Reasonable?"
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Sorry. I tend to Forget that you are in Canada. And seem to be a Stickler for Wording.
Ok. So you don't feel a Buck-a-Day is Reasonable. What per day Rate for the Average e-Liquid User (and Yes, I mean those who Use e-liquids which contain Nicotine) do You think is Reasonable for the Feds to Impose?
Same as for General Consumer Goods or whatever that category is called in US.
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I was Kinda looking for a Dollar Value per Day.
Because "Tobacco Products" are not Taxed the Same way that Other Items in the USA are Taxed.
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