How to survive the ban (a guide)

[GreekLion]

Surprisingly, this is very easy and I don't know why everyone is panicking.

1. SS mouthpiece - get a few, these will last
2. RBA - all metal w/ metal tank, will last. rebuild with legal materials.
3. Mod - mechanical kicked (expensive but some can seemingly be heirloom quality)
4. juice - all the ingredients are readily availible, you could probably go to a supermarket and a pharmacy at a minimum and make something
5. AW batteries for MM - will not be banned

This poses for a better vape for some and will actually save everyone money in the long run anyways.

There, we survive the ban!

 

[Ken62]

You forgot nicotine

 

[gthompson]

You forgot nicotine

Which is the only thing that could conceivably be banned. I guess people just enjoy freaking out.

 

[echofinder]

Tobacco seeds.

Yes, nicotine extraction is probably difficult and certainly dangerous, but I have no doubt it is doable.

 

[gthompson]

You don't have to grow it, you can buy it.

 

[Ken62]

But if nicotine is banned we wouldn't be able to buy it! Just like you can't buy illegal drugs.

 

[gthompson]

Let me say this slowly,

They
can't
ban
nicotine.

Do you seriously think they're going to ban cigarettes and pipe tobacco and cigars and dip and snuff and..... seriously?

 

[Judge Dredd]

Let me say this slowly,

They
can't
ban
nicotine.

Do you seriously think they're going to ban cigarettes and pipe tobacco and cigars and dip and snuff and..... seriously?

They can ban the use of nicotine in electronic cigarettes.....

 

[Beccca]

They can ban liquid nicotine....they won't ban it from tobacco companies. FDA is different then the Gov. Agency that controls tobacco.

 

[Ken62]

Believe me, I am not in the "OMG! They're banning e-cigs" crowd. I agree that they can't ban nicotine, or won't...

 

[GreekLion]

Let me say this slowly,

They
can't
ban
nicotine.

Do you seriously think they're going to ban cigarettes and pipe tobacco and cigars and dip and snuff and..... seriously?

They are going to ban e liquid, which is the equivilent of banning tanks of air and telling you you cant breathe anymore.

Nicotine is used in medical settings for various purposes, and it isnt going anywhere.

Good e liquid has PG/VG, flavoring, and nicotine. None of these can really get banned individually but potentially as a combination.

My list above focuses on the hardware side, which would be the most important part in the long-term as the same level of access would be cut off as we have now.

I don't think it comes down to a question of availibility, I think it mostly comes down to whether or not one is willing to break the law to vape.

 

[Ken62]

They can ban liquid nicotine....they won't ban it from tobacco companies. FDA is different then the Gov. Agency that controls tobacco.

...and if they ban liquid nicotine it will be purchased underground.

 

[Kopfstimmen]

Let me say this slowly,

They
can't
ban
nicotine.

Do you seriously think they're going to ban cigarettes and pipe tobacco and cigars and dip and snuff and..... seriously?

Hahaha... You're pretty awesome, gthompson. I wish I could like that twice!

 

[Leatherneck]

Let me say this slowly,

They
can't
ban
nicotine.

Do you seriously think they're going to ban cigarettes and pipe tobacco and cigars and dip and snuff and..... seriously?

No, but they could require a regulatory license to use/manufacture/process, etc liquid form nicotine.

 

[gthompson]

No, but they could require a regulatory license to use/manufacture/process, etc liquid form nicotine.

Of course they could. That is not a ban.

 

[Leatherneck]

Of course they could. That is not a ban.

Well yah. But if they require a regulatory license with fees that put it out of reach of most, if not all, vendors, problem solved and without a shred of legislation.

 

[Boiler]

deleted **drug reference

 

[MikeA5]

They probably won't ban it but they sure as heck will tax the heck out of nic.
So I'll stock up on it.

 

[SuperSteph]

At most they could regulate the sale of liquid nicotine. You could still buy e-cigs, still get e-juice without nicotine, etc.
They can'd ban the flavorings. they can't ban VG/PG, they can't ban batteries or atomizers. Much like Boiler said.

 

[Kemosabe]

i know that some folks are already vaping tinctures instead of traditional ejuice.

i doubt theres much nicotine in it, but a tincture using tobacco leaves, pg, vg, and flavorings is already minorly popular.
some ejuice companies are even selling "steep-it-yourself" tobacco leaves in a bottle, ready to mature. i cant remember who, but maybe someone reading this will. its probably more of a NET effect than a nicotine effect overall.

then again, maybe there is a few mg of nicotine per ml. i think it woudl be worth it to do a test. its possible that all this freaking out (IF youre freeaking out) could easily be put at bay. but i doubt its going to be incredibly simple.



Bill Godshall expressed in a recent interview that while he does not believe our devices will get banned, it is entirely possible. its possible that they could ban all models made after 2007. but its also possible that they could change it and try to ban all devices made after 2013. and he said its also possible that they could not try to ban devices at all. its up to us to fight!