Huff Post runs three more anti e-cigarette rants advocating prohibition/regulation

[Bill Godshall]

Huff Post runs three more anti e-cigarette rants advocating prohibition/regulation (in US, Canada, UK)
http ://www. huffingtonpost. com/sheelah-a-feinberg/e-cigarettes-health-risks_b_3833901.html
http: //www.huffingtonpost. ca/theresa-albert/e-cigarette-risks-nicotine-_b_3853518.html]Before You Puff an E-Cigarette, Read This | Theresa Albert
http:/ /www.huffingtonpost .co.uk/dr-nitin-shori/ecigarettes-jury-out_b_3843033.html

 

[2coils]

These puffing sticks are perceived as cool, harmless, and fun by teens who have never smoked and may have no desire to. If they pick one up at a party, they could be inhaling nicotine and an addiction that they haven't bargained for.

Where is the logic here. If they are at a party??? You mean the party with alcohol??? I guess the booze is ok huh?? How about going back to having responsible parents and keep the teens away from these parties? idiot!

Need to break the links to this rubbish too!!!

 

[NiNi]

I'd really like to "see" data that minors are clamoring to get e-cigs. Puff vs vape, analogs are more bang for the $ vs. disposables, and all this "candy, fruit, whatever" flavor business? How many pre-mixed E-liquids really compare to the "real thing" unless you add a little extra of this and that? And then, it's a matter of taste buds.

I really doubt the non-smoking teen is going to high tail it to the Vape Shop, just like the non-"smoking" teen is going to run to buy pot in States that are decriminalizing ..........

Another rant, while I'm on it. Many, if not ALL, the smoking cessation pharmaceuticals either have nicotine continually delivered into your body, or have bad side effects from the chemicals. CHEMICALS. CONSTANT DELIVERY OF NICOTINE. You have oral medications that were first used "off label" for smoking cessation, originally intended for depression, arthritis, sleep disorders, DIETING. And the testing for "labelled use" came from little 3rd world pockets where paid volunteers could have as many as 4 or 5 different meds in their system from that many different studies. Did any of those meds REALLY cause the participants to quit smoking? Or was it a choice of buying analogs or eating?

I have much more faith in independent studies of vaping than anything the FDA is going to put on the table, as long as BT has a hand in it.
I know I feel incredibly more healthy vaping, you know the drill. Anyone with a general High School knowledge of science can understand the delivery processes of ignition vs. evaporation, what a carcinogen is, etc.

And why doesn't BT have to list the chemicals on the packages of their products? Seriously. I hear the BT and anti's saying "Who knows how much nic is in the juice", "It's not being made under monitored conditions", "We don't know what all is in it." Well, why don't they apply THAT to BT? And where does that "Tobacco Tax" REALLY go?

Ok, I'm gonna chill out. Hope I didn't break any TOS's, but sometimes it amazes me that the public at large is being "educated" by a news article by someone who is ignorant of the facts or stuck on stupid. JMO.

 

[AgentAnia]

HuffPost has achieved ANTZdom...

 

[nomoe]

the huffington is about the one of the worst rags out there.

 

[cvedrick]

HP is a ranting liberal rag, expecting truth or good reporting from them is like expecting a used car dealer to give yo a really good deal.

 

[frosting]

HP is a ranting liberal rag, expecting truth or good reporting from them is like expecting a used car dealer to give yo a really good deal.

I use to think I was liberal as the good blue state girl I am and all....

Then I went on Huffpost. Apparently I'm an independent moderate after-all.


--The articles themselves which I took a peek at... Pure propaganda that only works on pure ignorance.

 

[RobinBanks]

Beyond all the normal garbage, the statement that gets to me most is when these articles claim that "Kids can easily buy e-cigarettes online".

Can someone explain to me how the hell they're doing that?
And if they are, whose fault is that?

 

[KjAthena]

I cant handle the Huff anymore...ignorance is excusable.....stupidity is not

 

[williebb123]

i would love to see some billionaire buy the huffington post and change the name to the vaping post

 

[Uma]

SOMEBODY CALL A STATE EMERGENCY!! Even the kids are quitting smoking, by switching to safer alternatives!! Years of tax monies down the drain!! WE MUST STOP THIS NOW WHILE SOME ARE STILL ADDICTED TO THE REAL CIGS! Think of our vacation houses in the Hamptons, people!!

 

[Uma]

How many of us started smoking before our teens? In our teens? How many of us lost our childhood to cigarette addiction? Had there of been a safer alternative sooner, we might haven even able to save a portion of our youth. We are the children of yesteryear, caught inside these old, wrinkled, yellowed from years of smoking bodies. Today, we stand proud, finally smoke free, thanks to the safer alternatives, hold each others hands in full support, and sing "WE are the children, we ARE the children ...

 

[pinkcloud]

I'm holding your hand and singing with you Uma...if only we were heard round the globe.

 

[RoseB]

This past week has been a full on beat down from the media. It is quite disgusting. One thing e cigarette users have in their corner is....who really trusts the "news"? I live in a small town. Over and over again I see young people picking up smoking. They're bored and it's something dangerous to do. Have yet to see even a 20 something with an e cig. Most of the other e cig users I know, are more seasoned. Getting sick from cigarettes has a way of driving folks to quit. While I don't condone underage sales, is it a bad thing for a young smoker (18+) to get into e cigs? In my opinion - no. Another generation of young people shouldn't have to go through the seasoning. That's where the true economic loss is. All of the doctors appointments when one's health tanks, due to cigarettes. One man's loss is another's gain. It's all a struggle over money.

 

[Insignificance]

Here is where websites like this (i.e. Liberal websites) are chock full of hypocrisy......and bear in mind I would be considered a Liberal on several issues. They run these articles to bash e-cigs relentlessly yet you will never see an article that goes against their push to legalize an illicit drug that has been legalized in two states out west.

If I found out my kid was at a party "smoking," I'd feel much better to hear afterwards that he was vaping versus getting stoned.

And the irony for me is that I'm for legalization of said illegal drug....the idea that it is a class 1 drug with no medicinal value (tell that to a cancer patient who is going through chemo and using it to ward off nausea) is absurd. It should be legalized and treated just like alcoholic beverages (no one under 21, no driving while impaired, etc.).

I'll never understand the cognitive dissonance between railing against vapers yet celebrating a bunch of people getting stoned in a public square.

 

[Petrodus]

I came of age in the 60's
Our generation coined the phrase
“Don’t trust anyone over 30” ... for very good reasons !!

 

[River]

Pretty obvious someone at huffpo is financially connected to either the pharma or tobacco industry.

 

[BuGlen]

Huff Post can't seem to make up their mind on where they stand on this issue. One week, they run a story about the positive aspects of e-cigs, albeit, played down. The next week they run a "10 reasons why e-cigs will destroy your life!" scare monger piece. Most recently they ran a story on the patch vs. e-cig story, and they were the only outlet I could find to include this little blurb:

There is an obvious source of evidence as to whether use of e.cigarettes leads to an increase or reduction in tobacco smoking: the trajectories of sales of e.cigarettes and tobacco cigarettes. If growing sales of e.cigarettes coincide with increased sales of tobacco cigarettes, tobacco control activists arguing for restriction of e.cigarette availability would be vindicated. If traditional cigarette sales decline as e.cigarette sales increase, it would suggest that e.cigarettes are normalising non.smoking and that it is in the interest of public health to promote and support their development rather than try to restrict it.

I believe to say Huff Post is irresponsible and doesn't vet the stories it publishes is a very fair statement. To believe that they are truly aligned with one side or the other on this issue, well, there just doesn't appear to be any real evidence of that. Like most media outlets on the web, I believe it's really about getting the most traffic, plain and simple.

 

[klynnn]

I would love to know where all these kids get their money to buy all these fancy ecigs that the news media talks about.

 

[Petrodus]

I would love to know where all these kids get their money to buy all these fancy ecigs that the news media talks about.

The same place where they get money to buy booze OR Anything Else they want.