Hussar Project X RTA Clone (by Coppervape)

[ShowMeTwice]

I dont understand what your saying about the juice control.

@johnpalley , here is a photo that shows the Project X parts. I added some notes to explain how the juice flow control (JFC) works on a Project X.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

How did you know what sizes to get? Or did you just buy an assortment?

Hi Zazie, I went with what the authentic sizes are listed as. When I received those they were off. I still need to measure the ones that came with the Project X and then reorder some new ones. When I do I will test them and post an update with the correct sizes. Clone o-rings are wonky versus authentic's.

 

[johnpalley]

The Project X tank uses juice flow control, or JFC. It needs to be open for juice to flow onto your wick and avoiding dry hits. The PEI tank section rotates to close and open the JFC. On your X there are two cut out tabs on each side of the PEI tank. Those line up with the two juice flow circular slots inside the tank that allow juice to flow onto your wick.

You close it to fill the tank and then open it to allow juice to flow onto your wick. Take yours and hold it by the yellow tank section and also by the bottom metal base and twist. It should move from side to side. I have one where it is tight and another that moves more freely.

Pics...

On this one the JFC is closed. Meaning no juice will flow onto the wick. If you vape it like this you will get a few hits and then dry hits because no juice is flowing from the two holes inside the tank section onto the wick.
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Here the JFC is open allowing juice to freely flow onto the wick. You know the JFC is wide open when the tabs on each side line up with the middle of the tabs. Or the middle vertical line of the three.
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Here on an X with the extended tank section. In the closed position.
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And in the open position.
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ETA: Yay, it's fixed. My stupid browser cache had to be cleared. Tech, gotta love it.

Ok I finally get it. I didn’t know you can also turn the yellow piece on the tank. This whole time I haven’t been using it correctly. I thought that when you put the entire tank on and twisted to the right I thought that automatically opened the juice control lol. For the first time I have the big middle line lined up with black piece inside where the bubbles come out of. Let’s see how this goes. It seemed like I was just still having problems but I’ll see how it goes now. I’ll post back in a few. Thanks!

 

[johnpalley]

Yes, on your first photo I can see the tab of the PEI tank section is clearly lined up with the middle vertical line on the base. Your JFC is wide open.

Good to know it's vaping nicely for you. Hopefully you got it now.

Let us know later on how its going.

Cheers

I’m not sure what you mean cause In my pics the big middle line isn’t lined up to where the juice comes out. I just now changed it to how it is in your picture where you said it was wide open. This is how it looks now which is different then my earlier pics

 

[ShowMeTwice]

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I’m not sure what you mean cause In my pics the big middle line isn’t lined up to where the juice comes out. I just now changed it to how it is in your picture where you said it was wide open. This is how it looks now which is different then my earlier pics

Maybe because of how the photo's are it is difficult to see open vs closed in my pics.

On your pic, the one you last posted, you have the indented parts of the yellow tank section perfectly lined up with the middle vertical line on the bottom of the tank. That's a fully open juice flow control. As it should be when you vape.

When you refill the tank you should close off the yellow tank section by rotating it to closed. Once filled then open it back up just like in your photo for vaping.

You could also use the black o-rings inside as a reference and line one of those up with the middle vertical line.

If you don't close the JFC the tank for refilling it could flood and leak. There is one member here who doesn't close his and doesn't get any flooding or leaking. I just close mine by habit.

Ok I finally get it. I didn’t know you can also turn the yellow piece on the tank. This whole time I haven’t been using it correctly. I thought that when you put the entire tank on and twisted to the right I thought that automatically opened the juice control lol. For the first time I have the big middle line lined up with black piece inside where the bubbles come out of. Let’s see how this goes. It seemed like I was just still having problems but I’ll see how it goes now. I’ll post back in a few. Thanks!

When the yellow tank section is like it is in your last photo the holes all line up. From the yellow tank section to the bottom tank section and onto your wick. Inside the yellow tank section you can see two black o-rings. Those are on the bottom of the yellow tank section to direct the flow of juice to your wick.

Here using your photo...you have it perfect.

I hope that helps. Let me know.

 

[johnpalley]

Maybe because of how the photo's are it is difficult to see open vs closed in my pics.

On your pic, the one you last posted, you have the indented parts of the yellow tank section perfectly lined up with the middle vertical line on the bottom of the tank. That's a fully open juice flow control. As it should be when you vape.

When you refill the tank you should close off the yellow tank section by rotating it to closed. Once filled then open it back up just like in your photo for vaping.

You could also use the black o-rings inside as a reference and line one of those up with the middle vertical line.

If you don't close the JFC the tank for refilling it could flood and leak. There is one member here who doesn't close his and doesn't get any flooding or leaking. I just close mine by habit.



When the yellow tank section is like it is in your last photo the holes all line up. From the yellow tank section to the bottom tank section and onto your wick. Inside the yellow tank section you can see two black o-rings. Those are on the bottom of the yellow tank section to direct the flow of juice to your wick.

Here using your photo...you have it perfect.
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I hope that helps. Let me know.

Yup you’ve really been helpful and I appreciate it. I think I might of already burned the coil though earlier cause the juice control was off. We’ll see how the rest of the night goes but something seems off. I might have to put some cotton in one more time to know for sure. I’ll post back with an update thanks

 

[Heartsdelight]

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I’m not sure what you mean cause In my pics the big middle line isn’t lined up to where the juice comes out. I just now changed it to how it is in your picture where you said it was wide open. This is how it looks now which is different then my earlier pics

You got it now!

 

[AngeNZ]

Its crazy cause I comb the cotton alot. It gets to the point where I sometimes think too much is being stripped off. I haven't had alot of luck with this cotton bacon ive been using to be honest with you. Ive never had a wick last more than like 3 days and most of my wicks have problems. Ive never tried any other type of cotton and im thinking maybe I should. Im gonna give it another try today before work Thanks.

Does anyone know what kind of cotton Tod used in his video? He didn't even have to comb it at all I like that. When he tested his wick before he put the tank on he gets a huge amount of vapor coming out. I never get nearly that much vapor when I do that and he's just using basic kanthal. The french guy also doesn't comb at all. I think if I did this with my cotton bacon it would be clogged like hell. Im gonna try it similar though and see what happens. I noticed the french guy is using Native Wicks. Maybe I should try some of that. For the record Im using cotton bacon prime to be exact. I want a cotton that I dont need to comb.

I'm using cotton bacon prime - I don't comb it at all. I cut it a bit beyond the deck, fluff the crap out of, and gently place the ends into the well.

I've used native wicks before. It wicks as fast as prime, but it is a bit more 'bobblier' - worth a try.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

@johnpalley , I decided to rewick one of my Project X's earlier today. Maybe these photo's will help.

This is the same deck and clapton coil I posted a photo of earlier that had a cotton wick.


Here you can see how much I trimmed at the edges of the deck. I left 2mm overhang on each side of the deck (I measured). I did not trim any off the sides or top of the wick before tucking into the juice wells. Nor did I comb it. Finger fluffed it some.


Tucked into the juice wells.


Same as above from the side.


Juiced up. Then I put the tank together and vaped.


The only difference is I used rayon this time versus cotton. The method is basically the same. The Project X works great with either cotton or rayon. The only difference with rayon is I don't trim any off the sides or top of the wick. Once a rayon wick is saturated with juice it will contract/collapse some versus cotton which will expand. In my experience with rayon if you trim additional from the sides or the tops of the wick is where juice can, and will, begin to pool in the juice wells and eventually flood the X.

I've been vaping on this wick for several hours and I don't have any flooding or dry hits. I was vaping at 30w in wattage mode for a bit and then switched over to TC at 20w and 440f. It's vaping great with excellent flavor.

I hope this helps.
Cheers

 

[Janusz]

I am using Project X for couple months and the only time I got dry hit is when I forget to open juice flow control. Juice flow control has nothing to do with air flow holes. To open juice flow control you have to turn only yellow part of tank so flat area of yellow tank is centered with indented long line on metal bottom silver ring. Instal new coil with new wick and start enjoying the best RTA I ever used... and I have more than dozen different RTAs so my claim is based on using them...

 

[Nailz]

Funny different methods work, I cut my wick on the edge of the deck, then fluff up and cut about of the 3rd of thickest of it off, then lay on the juice wells, I don't tuck it down into the juice wells at all, and not had any flooding or dry hits, I do find with this atty, less is more when it comes to wicking for me.

 

[johnpalley]

I'm using cotton bacon prime - I don't comb it at all. I cut it a bit beyond the deck, fluff the crap out of, and gently place the ends into the well.

I've used native wicks before. It wicks as fast as prime, but it is a bit more 'bobblier' - worth a try.

Great info! I won't be combing anymore just fluffing. Do you find it easy at all to choke the wick when its too tight in the coil using the cotton bacon prime? Im just trying to figure out if this could of been a possible issue I was having in the past.

@johnpalley , I decided to rewick one of my Project X's earlier today. Maybe these photo's will help.

This is the same deck and clapton coil I posted a photo of earlier that had a cotton wick.
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Here you can see how much I trimmed at the edges of the deck. I left 2mm overhang on each side of the deck (I measured). I did not trim any off the sides or top of the wick before tucking into the juice wells. Nor did I comb it. Finger fluffed it some.
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Tucked into the juice wells.
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Same as above from the side.
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Juiced up. Then I put the tank together and vaped.
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The only difference is I used rayon this time versus cotton. The method is basically the same. The Project X works great with either cotton or rayon. The only difference with rayon is I don't trim any off the sides or top of the wick. Once a rayon wick is saturated with juice it will contract/collapse some versus cotton which will expand. In my experience with rayon if you trim additional from the sides or the tops of the wick is where juice can, and will, begin to pool in the juice wells and eventually flood the X.

I've been vaping on this wick for several hours and I don't have any flooding or dry hits. I was vaping at 30w in wattage mode for a bit and then switched over to TC at 20w and 440f. It's vaping great with excellent flavor.

I hope this helps.
Cheers

Thanks for taking the time to post this. Looks exactly what I did with the cotton bacon prime except your wick is a little thicker.

Funny different methods work, I cut my wick on the edge of the deck, then fluff up and cut about of the 3rd of thickest of it off, then lay on the juice wells, I don't tuck it down into the juice wells at all, and not had any flooding or dry hits, I do find with this atty, less is more when it comes to wicking for me.

This is exactly why I was cutting my cotton at the edge of the deck before. I heard people were loving it like that. Now that I know I was having a jfc issue im gonna test out both ways.

Oh and Janusz thank you I'll be replacing the coil again tomorrow and starting over again.

 

[ChelsB]

Hello all, I finally built and filled my new Hussar last night. Within 2 minutes half of the liquid had leaked out. Help!!
Also, how do you adjust the airflow? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. I’m sure this is probably operator error but I have no idea what I did wrong for it to leak SO bad that it’s unusable


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[ShowMeTwice]

Hello all, I finally built and filled my new Hussar last night. Within 2 minutes half of the liquid had leaked out. Help!!
Also, how do you adjust the airflow? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. I’m sure this is probably operator error but I have no idea what I did wrong for it to leak SO bad that it’s unusable

Hi Chels long time, how are you? Sorry about your leaking Hussar. Can you post a photo of your build with the wick please?

To adjust the airflow I grab the tank by the bottom and twist. Doing so from the top works too. If you have it wide open with all three AF holes showing twist it counterclockwise. Clockwise will get you from one AF hole to the others.

 

[ChelsB]

Hi Chels long time, how are you? Sorry about your leaking Hussar. Can you post a photo of your build with the wick please?

To adjust the airflow I grab the tank by the bottom and twist. Doing so from the top works too. If you have it wide open with all three AF holes showing twist it counterclockwise. Clockwise will get you from one AF hole to the others.

Howdy! I actually just sent you a pm with some updates [emoji4]
I will disassemble it and post a pic. Obviously the wick will be wet, will that still be useful for you?
ETA: I can’t get the deck off! Help!

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[ChelsB]

This is how much I’ve disassembled and I can’t get the bottom off

Eta: I will try screwing it onto a mod and see if that helps me get it off
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[ShowMeTwice]

This is how much I’ve disassembled and I can’t get the bottom off

Eta: I will try screwing it onto a mod and see if that helps me get it off

Yes, if you tighten it down on one of your mods you should be able to twist the bottom section off.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Yes, I want to see your build and wick ... wet and all.

 

[ChelsB]

Yes, if you tighten it down on one of your mods you should be able to twist the bottom section off.

That worked! Here’s the deck

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[ShowMeTwice]

That worked! Here’s the deck

It likely leaked because there isn't enough wicking in the juice wells. Once the JFC was opened juice pooled up in the wells and it leaked. Further up on this page I posted some photo's of my rewicking from yesterday. Have a look at those and give that a try.

Let me know...