Hussar Project X RTA Clone (by Coppervape)

[ShowMeTwice]

Yep, I'm a frickin genius

I don't have a kayfun cause:
My first rta was a doggystyle and that was also my 2nd, 3rd and 4th
The doggy unfortunately made me absolutely love shorter RTAs
Kayfuns are taller tanks? If there are shorter ones in my airflow bracket 2.5mm id af let me know
And finally, I really don't know - suggestions on good kayfuns are very welcome

There are no Kayfun's that fit a "short RTA" with a 2.5mm id af.
Sorry.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Apparently the Kayfun 4 is the one to avoid.

I have two of them.

The K4 is the only Kayfun I never bought. Only because of all the parts. I hear it is still that fantastic Kayfun vape though. I had the Kayfun lite 2019 on order for months. After five months I cancelled the order. Today I saw a 20% off sale on it and bought one. I couldn't pass up that price. I've never seen Kayfun's on sale ever.

 

[AngeNZ]

The K4 is the only Kayfun I never bought. Only because of all the parts. I hear it is still that fantastic Kayfun vape though. I had the Kayfun lite 2019 on order for months. After five months I cancelled the order. Today I saw a 20% off sale on it and bought one. I couldn't pass up that price. I've never seen Kayfun's on sale ever.

OK, around a 2.5mm id AF, with a tall tank - what's still out there?

 

[Zazie]

The K4 is the only Kayfun I never bought. Only because of all the parts. I hear it is still that fantastic Kayfun vape though. I had the Kayfun lite 2019 on order for months. After five months I cancelled the order. Today I saw a 20% off sale on it and bought one. I couldn't pass up that price. I've never seen Kayfun's on sale ever.

Yeah, I'm going to get a couple of those cheap(er) KFL 2019. Gonna have to shell out for some extension kits, though. I hate 2ml tanks.

I'm sure I'm going to love my Kayfun 4s. And since people like them less, they are more likely to put 'em on ebay. Works out for me.

 

[ChelsB]

The official Hussar Project X sized o-rings, as listed at several sites, are not correct for the clone.

Haha... I tried o-rings, from the o-ring store, on the tank section above and below the fill port and they are not the correct size for the clone. The top cap is too loose with them. On closer inspection with a magnifying glass the cross section of the clone o-rings is ever so slightly thicker. With a mm ruler they look to be spot on with a CS of 1mm. I can't tell if they are 1.2mm, 1.3mm etc. The ID is correct.

All I could do was laugh .

I'm going to borrow my brother's digital calipers so I can get proper measurements of the clone o-rings.

I talked to the o-ring store earlier and they will exchange the o-rings.
Stay tuned for updated sizes.

Did you ever post the updated o-ring sizes for the clone? I’m not seeing it (granted I am on Tapatalk). I’m thinking that I’d like to get more o-rings and perhaps that will help the problem I’m having with the difficulties adjusting the juice flow and removing the tank from the mod.


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[ShowMeTwice]

Did you ever post the updated o-ring sizes for the clone? I’m not seeing it (granted I am on Tapatalk). I’m thinking that I’d like to get more o-rings and perhaps that will help the problem I’m having with the difficulties adjusting the juice flow and removing the tank from the mod.

I haven't measured them yet. Once I do I will order and try them out to make certain they will work before posting due to my last experience with them being off sized on the clone versus an authentic X.

I think there a couple things for you to try before replacing any o-rings.

You said you are having problems with adjusting the JFC.
Are the o-rings properly seated in the tank section?
Did you ever take the tank apart and lube the 2 o-rings inside the tank with VG, or juice, and then work the tank section open/closed several times?
If you did not then that is what you need to do.
Lubing those o-rings will make the JFC operate very smoothly on or off a mod.

Also did you lube the o-ring on the base of the deck. Doing that will make it easy to adjust the airflow.

When you say you are having problems removing the entire Project X atty from your mod what exactly do you mean? Did you tighten the atty down super tight on your mod and now can't remove it? I am not 100% clear. If you can post a video that would be great. When I put the Project X on a mod I just finger tighten the atty to the mod. All it needs. It doesn't need to be tightened bear tight. Finger tight is plenty.

Let me know. Thanks.

 

[ChelsB]

I haven't measured them yet. Once I do I will order and try them out to make certain they will work before posting due to my last experience with them being off sized on the clone versus an authentic X.

I think there a couple things for you to try before replacing any o-rings.

You said you are having problems with adjusting the JFC.
Are the o-rings properly seated in the tank section?
Did you ever take the tank apart and lube the 2 o-rings inside the tank with VG, or juice, and then work the tank section open/closed several times?
If you did not then that is what you need to do.
Lubing those o-rings will make the JFC operate very smoothly on or off a mod.

Also did you lube the o-ring on the base of the deck. Doing that will make it easy to adjust the airflow.

When you say you are having problems removing the entire Project X atty from your mod what exactly do you mean? Did you tighten the atty down super tight on your mod and now can't remove it? I am not 100% clear. If you can post a video that would be great. When I put the Project X on a mod I just finger tighten the atty to the mod. All it needs. It doesn't need to be tightened bear tight. Finger tight is plenty.

Let me know. Thanks.

Thank you very much. I’m thinking I didn’t use enough lubricant. I have some Lubri Film and will try that. My huge spool of wire just arrived so I’ll be spending the next few hours tinkering and practicing.
My problem may be solved with the additional lubrication. But what I mean is I have to tighten the tank on the mod VERY tight in order to adjust the juice flow. Therefore, since it’s screwed on so tight, when I go to remove the tank from the mod, the top part comes off the deck. I’m hoping the lubricant will work, if not, I’ll post a brief video. Thanks again!

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Thank you very much. I’m thinking I didn’t use enough lubricant. I have some Lubri Film and will try that. My huge spool of wire just arrived so I’ll be spending the next few hours tinkering and practicing.
My problem may be solved with the additional lubrication. But what I mean is I have to tighten the tank on the mod VERY tight in order to adjust the juice flow. Therefore, since it’s screwed on so tight, when I go to remove the tank from the mod, the top part comes off the deck. I’m hoping the lubricant will work, if not, I’ll post a brief video. Thanks again!

If you lube the 2 o-rings with VG, or your juice, that really is plenty. I have 3 Project X's ... all three of them had JFC's that were difficult to open and close. After lubing them with only VG they all operate smoothly.

Do you know which o-rings these are?

You really should get the JFC issue resolved first so it opens/closes freely off a mod.

Once lubed the JFC operates very smooth on or off a mod. No need for over-tightening the X on your mod.

Let me know.

 

[ChelsB]

The Lubri Film has helped. I thought I bought the exact same X just one matte and one shiny. However my second one (the shiny one) is a screw off top cap fill. I just popped in a build on the shiny one and it is totally gurgling and not a pleasant vape. I’ll play with it a little longer and practice wicking and building some more. But if after I practice I keep having problems, I’m going to give up on this tank and just PIF it. I thought my building skills were somewhat decent but I’m obviously wrong
Anyway, I think I’ve bugged you guys enough, so I’ll just wish the best of luck to you all.

 

[Nailz]

FT will have labor day sale, think I am going to pick up a few more of these for backups, really do like the vape from these X's

 

[AngeNZ]

The Lubri Film has helped. I thought I bought the exact same X just one matte and one shiny. However my second one (the shiny one) is a screw off top cap fill. I just popped in a build on the shiny one and it is totally gurgling and not a pleasant vape. I’ll play with it a little longer and practice wicking and building some more. But if after I practice I keep having problems, I’m going to give up on this tank and just PIF it. I thought my building skills were somewhat decent but I’m obviously wrong
Anyway, I think I’ve bugged you guys enough, so I’ll just wish the best of luck to you all.

Your shiny one sounds like it's the MTL version but the Satin grey will be the regular X. Play with it and see how you go. If the mtl version is too tight for what you want it for, there may be someone here who will trade you for a regular x.

And there is no such thing as 'bugging us guys (& chicks ) enough'. If you are having a problem with this RTA, you can guarantee someone else either will be now, or in the future.

JFC: On my first Satin X the JFC worked like a charm from the start. On my Shiny X it has been a lil Today I lubed the hell out of the lil o-rings, and it is better, thank goodness

 

[ChelsB]

Your shiny one sounds like it's the MTL version but the Satin grey will be the regular X. Play with it and see how you go. If the mtl version is too tight for what you want it for, there may be someone here who will trade you for a regular x.

And there is no such thing as 'bugging us guys (& chicks ) enough'. If you are having a problem with this RTA, you can guarantee someone else either will be now, or in the future.

JFC: On my first Satin X the JFC worked like a charm from the start. On my Shiny X it has been a lil Today I lubed the hell out of the lil o-rings, and it is better, thank goodness

Thanks, you’re a sweetheart.
If anyone wants the MTL (shiny version with screw off top cap), PM me and it’s yours for free. I’ll keep playing with the other one but am not interested in tinkering further with the shiny one
Eta: it’s taken

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[Zazie]

Just realized the Vazzling Project X I bought has a 2ml tank. Do you suppose the Coppervape extension kit will work with it?

One thing I've noticed about the non-MTL Project X is that when I MTL it, the vape is harsh. If I suck the vapor directly into my lungs, it's nice and smooth. Didn't expect that.

 

[AngeNZ]

Just realized the Vazzling Project X I bought has a 2ml tank. Do you suppose the Coppervape extension kit will work with it?

One thing I've noticed about the non-MTL Project X is that when I MTL it, the vape is harsh. If I suck the vapor directly into my lungs, it's nice and smooth. Didn't expect that.

If your vazzling is a 3 hole X, the extension kit should work just fine.

That's weird about the MTLing on your 3 hole X - are you using a mtl smaller bore drip tip on it? I get smoothness regardless of mtl or DL, but I'm also a frankenvaper who mtl's restricted DL RTAs I do use a 4 or 5mm bore mtl drip tip tho.

 

[Zazie]

Thanks, @AngeNZ. I'll check the holes tomorrow. I hope there are three--I really hate 2ml tanks.

I'm using the drip tip that came with the Project X. I think I'll throw in a different juice when it's time to refill and see if I get the same harshness when I MTL it. I don't mind DL'ing to get the smoother vape, but it's an odd phenomenon.

Of course, when I say "DL," it barely counts as such, because I exhale before much vapor reaches my lungs. But I do bypass the two-step draw of MTL'ing and just go straight for the trachea, omitting the rest stop in the mouth.

 

[johnpalley]

Thanks, @AngeNZ. I'll check the holes tomorrow. I hope there are three--I really hate 2ml tanks.

I'm using the drip tip that came with the Project X. I think I'll throw in a different juice when it's time to refill and see if I get the same harshness when I MTL it. I don't mind DL'ing to get the smoother vape, but it's an odd phenomenon.

Of course, when I say "DL," it barely counts as such, because I exhale before much vapor reaches my lungs. But I do bypass the two-step draw of MTL'ing and just go straight for the trachea, omitting the rest stop in the mouth.

The harshness you speak of has happened to me over and over with the project x. Are you noticing that the vapor is not that dense when it happens? Im starting to notice that when rta's have wicking issues that the vape is harsh with mtl hits. This was mainly happening to me because I didn't comb my cotton.

The last two weeks I've literally put a new coil and cotton in my x every day because I was having similar issues to what your experiencing. At first I thought the cotton was too tight in the coil but throughout time I realized that the rta only works perfectly if I comb the cotton. What are you using for a wick?

 

[Janusz]

The harshness is usually prelude to dry hits... and it mean you have problem with either wick or use too high wattage when vaping. I have two Coppervape Project X both with extension and I experience harsh vape only when I put too much cotton in wicking bays, wick is too old (I change wicks after a day or two) or when I forget to open juice flow (and this happened a few times). Both my Project X produce a lot of dense flavorful smooth vapor when used in any combination of AF opening even when I open half of single hole... of course if I vape half hole open I have to significantly reduce wattage as there is less airflow cooling coil when making longer draw.

 

[Zazie]

@johnpalley, I haven't noticed any diminution of vapor, but then I haven't been looking. The wick is KGD cotton. But, if too much wicking can account for the phenomenon, as @Janusz says, then that's probably what's going on, since 8W can't be considered excessively high. I've only built this thing once, and I'm a beginner, so too much or too little wicking is always a possibility with me.

 

[johnpalley]

@johnpalley, I haven't noticed any diminution of vapor, but then I haven't been looking. The wick is KGD cotton. But, if too much wicking can account for the phenomenon, as @Janusz says, then that's probably what's going on, since 8W can't be considered excessively high. I've only built this thing once, and I'm a beginner, so too much or too little wicking is always a possibility with me.

It might be easier for me to notice less vapor because I know how much is supposed to be produced when the x is working properly. Some people in this thread don't comb there cotton. I tried over and over not combing but my wicking never works properly like that. I have no idea how people are getting great results like that. Ive seriously recoiled and wicked like 15 times the past 2 weeks. I tried everything. If I were you I would follow this video


At first I was cutting the cotton the same length of the base. It would work good for a while but then I realized the wick wouldn't stay touching the bottom of the juice well. A puddle would form and it would float up a little. Most of the people in this thread make the wick very slightly longer than the base which Im finding to be the best way.

Oh and another thing. Make sure your wick is tight enough in the coil. If its too loose you won't get a good experience

 

[Zazie]

Thanks, @johnpalley. Forgot to mention that I did comb my cotton (I always do). Honestly don't remember how long I cut the tails, but I tried to follow @ShowMeTwice's tutorial.

I probably used too much cotton. I tend to over- rather than underdo things.