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Yes, that was my point exactly, you have to develop the chocolate first. Everything i seem to ask seems to be in the "higher end" of this hobby, and nobody seems to know how to make it. This to me proves my ideas are advanced for a beginner, and none of you are really that good at making unique, tasty juice. Either that or you're not sharing. I'm not interested in making a strawberry cream, or something that every average Joe has mixed in his basement and now shows up in convenience stores.
Yes, one shots is essentially selling out, since you're already getting "the formula" and all you do is add the fillers. You're not formulating anything when you buy those, ergo, it's selling out. The help i required had nothing to do with my ingredients, i asked specific help in understanding the processes that underlay this hobby, not the actual formulating, because that would be selling out, yet again. I can find hundreds of formulas out there, i'm not interested in duplicating an existing formula.
I have more natural talent in my little pinkie than you have in your entire body, you're just not smart enough to understand my questions and get all emotional and stuff.
DIYNoob, what do you plan to gain from DIY?
If you can't make it, that's what i'm aiming for. So you're spot on.
It's not that people don't know how to, or won't share their knowledge, it's that without knowing what your ingredients are, we are UNABLE to help.
You can get to where you want, but it will take some EFFORT on your part.
I'm legally blind, and I typed in over 100 flavors into ELR on a PHONE. I am still doing single flavor testing MONTHS after starting. I make 30 ml bottles of each flavor, and mix and match to see what works and what doesn't. I read some reviews of the trickier flavors, and bought a few of each I wanted to replicate. An orange mango guava, FYI. I've made a decently vapable copy. So it is possible.
Not into Orange flavors. Not much into Fruits, except in bakery flavors.
But whatever you are trying, impatience is not a good DIY practice.
And 25 flavors is nothing. There are people here trying to help you with over 300 flavors.
If you really want to aggravate yourself, try extracting tobacco flavors. Months of waiting, and multiple purchases of filtration equipment, only to find out you don't like it.
Yet, after three years, I have six or seven NET flavors I produce every spring.
My boondoggle was chocolate. Not an easy flavor either. Never could get it right. Until a month ago, when I tried a Chocolate Cookie recipe posted on the ECF. Two chocolates, a Vanilla and a Cookie. Spot On ! Loving It ! I found that recipe in the Recipe section.
Maybe you could try going to this section of the ECF (Recipes) and Search for Orange (male sure the search this forum only is checked) to review what dozens of other DIY mixers have done to find their Orange mixes.
E-Liquid Recipes
Or you could just convince yourself that the rest of the planet is wrong, and you are smarter than any of these fools who have spent over 100 posts trying to help you along your way.
But whatever you are trying, impatience is not a good DIY practice.
And 25 flavors is nothing. There are people here trying to help you with over 300 flavors.
If you really want to aggravate yourself, try extracting tobacco flavors. Months of waiting, and multiple purchases of filtration equipment, only to find out you don't like it.
Yet, after three years, I have six or seven NET flavors I produce every spring.
My boondoggle was chocolate. Not an easy flavor either. Never could get it right. Until a month ago, when I tried a Chocolate Cookie recipe posted on the ECF. Two chocolates, a Vanilla and a Cookie. Spot On ! Loving It ! I found that recipe in the Recipe section.
Maybe you could try going to this section of the ECF (Recipes) and Search for Orange (male sure the search this forum only is checked) to review what dozens of other DIY mixers have done to find their Orange mixes.
E-Liquid Recipes
Or you could just convince yourself that the rest of the planet is wrong, and you are smarter than any of these fools who have spent over 100 posts trying to help you along your way.
Wow, what a jerk. I tried to help and you insult me? You have a lot of nerve to say that we can’t make juice, when we have all successfully made our own for years.
YOU are the one who is here asking for a recipe!
Seems there have been more of them than usual lately.
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