I don't think the EGo is a good beginner setup.

[Lookingglass]

I started with an MVP because I didn't want all the foolery of changing out batteries and I new it would grow with me. I got a bunch of EVODs cuz they were cheap and I wanted to change flavors. 'Started out buying replacement heads, and now rebuild them and stick 'em on my itaste while the kayfun sits on the MVP.

I wasn't a heavy smoker, and I vape more than I smoked, so I can see how those starter kits could be really frustrating for someone coming off of a pack a day or more.

I'd totally recommend an MVP to a noob: long charge (up to 3 days!), no extra batteries to fool with, just about anything fits on top, and it'll grow with you!

 

[cope]

the mvp will fire a .9ohm coil on my russian 91.. so will my provari mini egos lol never

 

[chunkystan]

I am not going to diss the e-go,I started on them & it got me off the cigs .I then got a vamo & a spinner so the e-go's took a back seat.This week my vamo died after sterling service (rest in peace 'ol chap).Tonight my spinners gone flat ,so whilst it charges,I'm back on the trusty old e-go (8 months on & still going good).

 

[JuiceIsLoose]

Egos can be frustrating

My issues with them is breakage--ripping the top off the tube sort of thing. At this point, I use an 18650 mech and switch to 18490's to fire the 1.2 ohm Kayfun when going out and about.

What I would like is a 5 to 10 watt variable wattage metal device with the safety features and runs on a single 14500 AW IMR battery. Put the electronic board, switch etc. on the side of the battery--not above it to limit the length (think VTR but for 14500) Two types can be built, one with the atomizer on the top Ego style or to be mounted on the side VTR style.

The Ego Twist type devices are great for beginners-they can learn how all this stuff works then move on. Just wish they made an Ego Twist with USB charging and more durable--for folks that don't baby things. Still, things are getting better every day....I'm sure Innokin will be rolling out VTR type devices for 18350's eventually...something smaller and protecting the atomizer would be great as a recommendation for a durable, solid unit that fits in the pocket.

 

[edyle]

Everyone should start out with an mvp2 and protank 2. I wish I had known. For the price you can't beat it.

There's a guy I know at work I'm been trying to help stop smoking by switching to vaping.
Turns out he only smokes half a pack a day.

He already tried a couple things and so far fail; but something like an mvp2 and tank he wouldn't consider, and is probably overkill anyway.

I gave him my Southbeach Smoke cigalike kit; last I heard from him he said it was too airy.

 

[edyle]

https://www.fasttech.com/products/1516103
Cost? And this is a more expensive tank. I am eagerly waiting for it.

.....

Um... Ya?
People buy carto tanks to SAVE on COST? Right?
They don't buy carto tanks for convenience, they buy them for COST.

 

[edyle]

Egos can be frustrating

My issues with them is breakage--ripping the top off the tube sort of thing. At this point, I use an 18650 mech and switch to 18490's to fire the 1.2 ohm Kayfun when going out and about.

What I would like is a 5 to 10 watt variable wattage metal device with the safety features and runs on a single 14500 AW IMR battery. Put the electronic board, switch etc. on the side of the battery--not above it to limit the length (think VTR but for 14500) Two types can be built, one with the atomizer on the top Ego style or to be mounted on the side VTR style.

The Ego Twist type devices are great for beginners-they can learn how all this stuff works then move on. Just wish they made an Ego Twist with USB charging and more durable--for folks that don't baby things. Still, things are getting better every day....I'm sure Innokin will be rolling out VTR type devices for 18350's eventually...something smaller and protecting the atomizer would be great as a recommendation for a durable, solid unit that fits in the pocket.

Somebody showed my this 14500 tube yesterday:
The L-Rider Robust Variable Voltage PV
its vv only, not vw, but interesting.
I think theres a good chance 14500 tubes are going to start picking up; perhaps in 2 years.

 

[Fizzpop]

I think we tend to forget that vaping is incredibly confusing for the new vaper. When my wife and I decided to quit (no, we didn't decide to vape, we decided to quit) we were not sure if vaping would work. We had tried lots of things: Wellbutrin, cold turkey, gum, etc.. At that time, the cost of a even an eGo setup seemed like a lot of money for something we were not sure would help us quit.

We started using Fins from Wally-World. They were right there next to the stinkies and the price for a starter kit was low enough that if it didn't work, it wasn't a huge loss. Cig-a-likes are "good enough" - they showed us that vaping would work and we could quit by vaping. At this point, knowing that vaping "worked" we started researching the vaping world. Now, at this point in time, the cost of an eGo setup started to look more reasonable and the cost/benefit more apparent.

These days my wife still likes her eGo with a Davide tank (she doesn't like anything bulkier) and I have my Provari with a collection of tanks and I am looking seriously at a Reo. We also have recently started mixing our own juice. There is a natural progression as one starts vaping. What we end up with largely depends on our attitudes and tolerance for fiddling with things. Vaping is simply more complicated than smoking; my wife's limit is her eGo setup and sometimes I have to rescue her from a bad vape. I like fiddling with things and so I am happy dripping, having a genesis tank and using an eGo when out and about.

Don't forget the mindset of the beginner. I think far too often we tend to overwhelm the new vaper. Cig-a-likes are a great starting point, and for some, they may be the endpoint. It is different for each person.

 

[edyle]

I think we tend to forget that vaping is incredibly confusing for the new vaper. When my wife and I decided to quit (no, we didn't decide to vape, we decided to quit) we were not sure if vaping would work. We had tried lots of things: Wellbutrin, cold turkey, gum, etc.. At that time, the cost of a even an eGo setup seemed like a lot of money for something we were not sure would help us quit.

We started using Fins from Wally-World. They were right there next to the stinkies and the price for a starter kit was low enough that if it didn't work, it wasn't a huge loss. Cig-a-likes are "good enough" - they showed us that vaping would work and we could quit by vaping. At this point, knowing that vaping "worked" we started researching the vaping world. Now, at this point in time, the cost of an eGo setup started to look more reasonable and the cost/benefit more apparent.

These days my wife still likes her eGo with a Davide tank (she doesn't like anything bulkier) and I have my Provari with a collection of tanks and I am looking seriously at a Reo. We also have recently started mixing our own juice. There is a natural progression as one starts vaping. What we end up with largely depends on our attitudes and tolerance for fiddling with things. Vaping is simply more complicated than smoking; my wife's limit is her eGo setup and sometimes I have to rescue her from a bad vape. I like fiddling with things and so I am happy dripping, having a genesis tank and using an eGo when out and about.

Don't forget the mindset of the beginner. I think far too often we tend to overwhelm the new vaper. Cig-a-likes are a great starting point, and for some, they may be the endpoint. It is different for each person.

That's exactly it; first the smoker has to get to that point where they experience a vape that would work. Once they cross that bridge, it makes sense to lay down a more substantial investment.

That's what you want out of a beginner setup: something inexpensive enough that is worth trying out; the other half still remains which is getting a decent flavor, but only the user could figure that out.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

I think we tend to forget that vaping is incredibly confusing for the new vaper. When my wife and I decided to quit (no, we didn't decide to vape, we decided to quit) we were not sure if vaping would work. We had tried lots of things: Wellbutrin, cold turkey, gum, etc.. At that time, the cost of a even an eGo setup seemed like a lot of money for something we were not sure would help us quit.

We started using Fins from Wally-World. They were right there next to the stinkies and the price for a starter kit was low enough that if it didn't work, it wasn't a huge loss. Cig-a-likes are "good enough" - they showed us that vaping would work and we could quit by vaping. At this point, knowing that vaping "worked" we started researching the vaping world. Now, at this point in time, the cost of an eGo setup started to look more reasonable and the cost/benefit more apparent.

These days my wife still likes her eGo with a Davide tank (she doesn't like anything bulkier) and I have my Provari with a collection of tanks and I am looking seriously at a Reo. We also have recently started mixing our own juice. There is a natural progression as one starts vaping. What we end up with largely depends on our attitudes and tolerance for fiddling with things. Vaping is simply more complicated than smoking; my wife's limit is her eGo setup and sometimes I have to rescue her from a bad vape. I like fiddling with things and so I am happy dripping, having a genesis tank and using an eGo when out and about.

Don't forget the mindset of the beginner. I think far too often we tend to overwhelm the new vaper. Cig-a-likes are a great starting point, and for some, they may be the endpoint. It is different for each person.

My fiancé and I pretty much followed the same evolution only she sticks with the Blu. The only person I know that prefers the cigalikes- for her I think it's a convenience thing. I refill her cartos for her. I don't drip but I stick with the provari or MVP and an aerotank.
I can't help but think though that if who's weren't more publicly available and in your face like the cigalikes that allot of people would make the ego style there first jump.
For ease of use, Initial cost and battery life I think the ego is a decent start. It's an inexpensive way to see if gaping is gonna work. The. Move on to whatever from there IF you want something more.
We need to remember when we started. I had no clue I would enjoy it at all.


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[Coldrake]

Somebody showed my this 14500 tube yesterday:
The L-Rider Robust Variable Voltage PV
its vv only, not vw, but interesting.
I think theres a good chance 14500 tubes are going to start picking up; perhaps in 2 years.

That's actually pretty cool.

 

[BillyWJ]

Whatever setup you have, you'll have to carry some gear with you if you want reliability with e-cigs. A cartotank could fail, I'd rather be carrying around a few small cartomizers than bottles of e-liquid. I don't see cartotanks at all as convenient. Tanks and clearomizers in general are messy, and with something like nicotine e-liquid, that is hardly convenient.

I'm guessing most people here that are not fans of cigalikes have never even tried a gen 2 KR808 auto battery or Kanger horizontal coil cartomizers. This setups hits about as hard as my Ego and Vivi Nova and are much more consistent.

You're making an awful lot of assumptions with no experience to back it up, and you're on the very verge of being outright rude about it, too.

What's your point, anyway? That ONLY what you like should be sold? Not gonna happen. End of thread.

PS - I take carto tanks everywhere, they don't leak, and they work perfectly. And, I find it funny you're talking about something 'hitting hard" on an Ego battery. Try a mech sometime, with an RBA like an IGO-W, then come back and tell how hard that ego hit.

 

[HauntedMyst]

I don't think the EGo is a good beginner setup.

Sure it is. Most people don't start out shooting a 50mm Desert Eagle hangun (that's how you end up with a dent in your forehead from the barrel flipping back), you start out with something like a 22lr. An ego is a first cheap, safe step. Then pop a Protank on it and you have a handy out and about piece. Sure, eventually you are going work your way up to the big guns but the small ones still work great where they fit in the scheme of things. I use an ELA/Taifun GT/GS at home, but out and about, I always have my eGo with a Protank and it's still a pretty good vape.

 

[erazzz]

LOL @ DIYers thinking they know what newbies need. Cigalikes? Sorry, those are all junk. No vaping power, the battery needs to be recharged every 3-4 hours, and oh the joys of carrying a spare battery or two and handful of extra carts everywhere you go. And this is what you think newbies need?

Sounds like a HUGE hassle compared to "Charge it overnight, top off the tank in the morning, and you're good to go for the rest of the day."



Funny thing about newbies, most of the prefer CONVENIENCE. If you told the average newbie that they couldn't leave the house without 2-3 charged batteries, a charger, at least 2 filled carts and/or a bottle of juice, most of them wouldn't bother trying ecigs at all. Too much hassle. Tell them that they can charge a battery while they sleep, fill the tank in less than 30 seconds in the morning, and that alone will last them all day and they think that's fantastic.

And for the record, MOST people stay with their eGo setups. This forum is for eccentrics, not normal people. We do things different.

I'll give you an analogy here. I visit a performance car forum as well. Ask how to wash a car there and you'll be told to use the Two Bucket Method and to NEVER dry the car by rubbing it with a towel and instead use an electric leaf blower and then pat-dry any leftovers with a microfiber cloth. This is the advice given by the same type of people we are. Is it really suitable for your average car owner though?

Is your idea of what a newbie needs REALLY what a newbie needs, or is it what YOU would need if you were to go back the same point now?


BTW, in case your curious, I actually use the 3 Bucket Method to wash my cars. Clay bar once every 3 months, polish the paint every 6 months. I treat with paint sealant once every 3 months and wax every 2 weeks.

It's the proper way to wash a car.

I think you put this perfectly.

Egos are what most people start off with now from what I can tell. They are simple and easy. You can throw on something like a mini protank, add some juice, get a few extra coils, and you are good to go. And as the quoted poster says, some people stay with that. I have two friends that switched to vaping over year ago, the same time I did. They got their ego batteries (no VV) back then and still use the same thing now. They use vision clearomizers on top, and that is it. They love their setups and have no desire to switch. Even after seeing my VV/VW device, they're happy with what they have.

I started with a V2 starter kit with cartridges. It was really simple and easy to use, got me off the cigs.

 

[jdm1982]

9 days ago i was eating 25-30 cigs a day.got 2 ego twists with 2 mini protanks using 2.2 coils wth 24 mgs nic in export a juice.


instantly dropped the analogs and never even wanted one since.

maybe i got lucky, i dunno.zero issues for me.best money i ever spent.

 

[Ktribb]

I tried cig-a-likes years ago and just started going into my ecigs. Started in an ego

 

[Stringplucker]

9 days ago i was eating 25-30 cigs a day.got 2 ego twists with 2 mini protanks using 2.2 coils wth 24 mgs nic in export a juice.


instantly dropped the analogs and never even wanted one since.

maybe i got lucky, i dunno.zero issues for me.best money i ever spent.

There's your problem...you're not supposed to eat them. LOL

Seriously, though...I was basically in the same boat, and the eGo helped me break the habit. Luckily, I'm able to get these same flavors, including the tobacco flavor, without nicotine. In time, I'll drop the nic and enjoy a clean life.

 

[jdm1982]

There's your problem...you're not supposed to eat them. LOL

Seriously, though...I was basically in the same boat, and the eGo helped me break the habit. Luckily, I'm able to get these same flavors, including the tobacco flavor, without nicotine. In time, I'll drop the nic and enjoy a clean life.

thats my eventual plan also.each batch ill step down the nic. but ill always keep a mini pro filled with the 24 mgs around even then just in case the urge to smoke a real cig ever happens while im vapng no or low nic juices. better to relapse to high mg juice then to analogs.

 

[PeppermintPatty]

I really think this is a "to each his own" kind of issue. I realize the problem with newbies is that they don't know yet what "their own" is yet, so the question is what is the easiest/most appealing way to get your foot into the vaping door? Personally, I love to show smokers my White Cloud mini flings. They are amazed at the weight, size, softness and flavors. I have been doing some sharing with a friend at work whose son may be interested in trying vaping again (he got a starter kit a while back at a mall kiosk and was unsuccessful). We talked about disposables, cig a likes, mods etc. However, I also referred them here . I told her that there are many different options with vaping equipment, and flavors and nicotine concentrations. The best thing for a newbie, I think, is to spark their interest and then show them where more info can be found. That way they can read about other's experiences and decide what may work best for them. The reality is that success with vaping is usually correlated with a willingness to experiment with different options.

 

[jdm1982]

I really think this is a "to each his own" kind of issue. I realize the problem with newbies is that they don't know yet what "their own" is yet, so the question is what is the easiest/most appealing way to get your foot into the vaping door? Personally, I love to show smokers my White Cloud mini flings. They are amazed at the weight, size, softness and flavors. I have been doing some sharing with a friend at work whose son may be interested in trying vaping again (he got a starter kit a while back at a mall kiosk and was unsuccessful). We talked about disposables, cig a likes, mods etc. However, I also referred them here . I told her that there are many different options with vaping equipment, and flavors and nicotine concentrations. The best thing for a newbie, I think, is to spark their interest and then show them where more info can be found. That way they can read about other's experiences and decide what may work best for them. The reality is that success with vaping is usually correlated with a willingness to experiment with different options.

yep. i know when i went into this thing, i thought " i dont give a .... if i save a cent by switching, long as it works'.people are asking me everday what use and i tell them exactly what i bought and where i got them. half screw up there face about spending abit of money getting started, others can't believe how cheap it is. everyones got there own situation, but very few smokers i know smoke less then half pack, so the budget is 150 bucks right off the bat if there serious about switchng over. the key is knowing if you really wanna quit analogs, or just enjoy whining about it but refusng to even try alternatives.

you can lead a horse to water...lol.