I feel like everyone is watching me?

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DaveP

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Eventually, most people will understand vaping. Until then, all we can do is explain it and hope for wide acceptance of vaping as a quit smoking tool. Tobacco companies have entered the market and that adds to the confusion over vaping. If it's made by a tobacco company people think it must be as bad as cigarettes.

The Juul thing didn't help our cause.
 
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So, he wanted to stick with something that for sure causes health issues. Fair enough.
I'm a pilot and being in and out of airports is proving that swapping to vaping is more difficult then I thought. I'm not going to walk for 45 min going out and back into the terminal for a vape. I hoped to kill off my snus usage but now I don't see it possible.
I don't agree with saying vaping and smoking are the same, I kinda understand why there is no vaping in buildings like an airport. Someone chugging huge clouds could be annoying for some and the vapor hangs forever. Oh well it is what it is.

I agree with that... .but what about the new pod systems which ditches the clouds and vapor for higher concentration of nicotine?
I never was a big cloud chaser myself, but even at my level (.7 ohm, 25 watts), it blows out enough clouds to where I wouldn't feel it's fair to other people. I will admit, in a movie theater, I do stealth vape. I turn my same rig (.7 ohm coil) and turn down the watts to 20. I hold it in, and no vapor comes out. You can't tell even if you're looking in full light/daylight. Even that sort of level is banned as well. However, if you take out the heating element and spray the juice directly, that is allowed (nicorette).

The major concern here is not about the vaping, smoking, public, private, etc... at the root of it, it's more about public opinion about vaping, and how it's being lumped in with smoking. There is more effort pointed towards it being classified as a smoking item, and no effort into separating it as a different entity. The terminology is totally different.

I love analogies, so here's a weird one to ponder. If I had a wheelchair that ran off a small four stroke engine that wasn't too loud, but it did produce carbon monoxide, I'm sure it would be banned from the inside of an airport. However, if I had someone pushing me in a wheelchair, That person pushing me produces extra carbon dioxide, methane, and several other gasses.. but it's so minuscule, that really, nobody cares. Then there's the electric wheelchair, which has zero emissions..... So how much emissions should be allowed? With vaping, how much toxins should be allowed? I equate the public outlook of those low powered pod systems to be about on the same level as a person pushing a wheelchair.. yes, it has some, but they're treating it like it's an 8 cylinder engine powered wheelchair. Even cloud chasing devices, although it looks like it might be an 8 cylinder engine, is not that much further past that on the scale.

I know, weird analogy, but the public needs to take a step back and look at it from a different angle. Vaping is NOT smoking... it's not even in the same ball field. Yet it's being looked at, and treated as if it is the exact same as smoking.
 
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So it’s a misnomer to call it a rain tax. It’s a sewer tax based on actual use, rather than passing it off via some other less equal measure. I bet the big property owners hate it. This the attempt to rename it. That happened with the “death” tax too which was actually an inheritance tax designed to reduce the power of massive inherited wealth.

...no.. it's a rain tax more or less. If you had a pasture with NO sewage, your tax would go up because of this law.
 
Welcome to the forums, and to the vaping family.

When people are looking at you when you vape in public, your feelings or impressions of what they are thinking is all on you - and not necessarily an accurate representation of what their thoughts truly are.

Some of them may very well be thinking "Oh, a vaper, I wonder if that helped him quit smoking?" Not everyone is judging you negatively when they look at you, they may just have a simple curiosity because while the number of vapers is growing, very few people have ever encountered vaping/vapers in the wild.

Just look friendly and say hi to people who look at you when you vape. Open the door to the conversation if someone desires. That course of action is always best in this environment where we fight against Big Tobacco and the anti-vapers for the hearts and minds of the voting public.
 
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The Juul thing didn't help our cause.

Although I've never considered purchasing a Juul...they're expensive and use NONrefillable Pods...they're the only e-cigs I've heard advertised on the radio (eg. Sean Hannity show)…

And I think the ads might interest/educate smokers...mentioning the concepts of nicotine "without all the other harmful chemicals" and no "bad smells" for the user or surroundings...

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    ..mentioning the concepts of nicotine "without all the other harmful chemicals" and no "bad smells" for the user or surroundings..
    Two things that appealed most to me, almost right away and still to this day, are no ashes and no worries about the breeze/light up a cig battle (I get a kick watching smokers performing that 'dance').
     
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    Although I've never considered purchasing a Juul...they're expensive and use NONrefillable Pods...they're the only e-cigs I've heard advertised on the radio (eg. Sean Hannity show)…

    And I think the ads might interest/educate smokers...mentioning the concepts of nicotine "without all the other harmful chemicals" and no "bad smells" for the user or surroundings...

    ..

    I agree. Even though I don't think I'll ever pick one up,I do think they'll fill a niche. They're pretty much like a "Cigalike" but hold more juice and a higher nic strength. I think they're a better alternative than cigalikes because of the higher nic strengths will aid smokers into vaping. The only problem with them, is not the device themselves, but the youth that decided to abuse them.
     

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    I agree. Even though I don't think I'll ever pick one up,I do think they'll fill a niche. They're pretty much like a "Cigalike" but hold more juice and a higher nic strength. I think they're a better alternative than cigalikes because of the higher nic strengths will aid smokers into vaping. The only problem with them, is not the device themselves, but the youth that decided to abuse them.
    The pod that I have (that I've found myself using more and more often) is refillable, and I use the same 21-24 mg/ml liq. that I use in my RTA's. I don't care too much for the low resistance (1 ohm is low for me) coil heads available for it, but FastTech has 'em for less than 9 bucks for a 5 pack.
     
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    The pod that I have (that I've found myself using more and more often) is refillable, and I use the same 21-24 mg/ml liq. that I use in my RTA's. I don't care too much for the low resistance (1 ohm is low for me) coil heads available for it, but FastTech has 'em for less than 9 bucks for a 5 pack.

    Yeesh, 21-24mg in an RTA... That's a bit harsh. I bet you build it low ohms.
     

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    Yeesh, 21-24mg in an RTA... That's a bit harsh. I bet you build it low ohms.
    The lowest resistance coils I wrap are around 1.6 - 1.7 ohms. The PG/VG %'s are in the 70/30 - 80/20 range.. I wasn't too heavy a cigarette smoker, but I did like a strong, full tobacco..
     
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