I hate the use of the word 'analog' to describe cigarettes

[Zal42]

Using disparaging terms is a way of expressing disdain, intended or not. When I smoked, I would sure have taken it that way.

Yes, I am replying to my own comment. It's just the way I roll.

I just wanted to clarify, when I smoked, I would have (and did) taken it that way when the terms were used by nonsmokers. Like many disparaging terms, they are only offensive when used by people outside of the group they're being applied to.

 

[Scotch827]

I like the term analogs. It's just forum lingo. I even have my smoking friends at work calling them analogs. We all go to a smoking bar after work sometimes, they will text me to say they are sitting next to the analog machine. It's just simple humor, well okay.... very simple humor

Scott

 

[hobotivo]

I don't like "analog" all that much because, strictly speaking, it's just not correct. However, I'm a pedant.

I'm actually more interested in who used the term first, and when. Facts like this will become part of "alternative smoking" history/folklore and should be recorded somewhere.

Cheers

 

[AttyPops]

So, according to this thread, no one likes the term analog or ecig or even pv. Is everyone still down with the term 'vaping' or does that need to be changed too?

Ahhhhh!!!! Now we're getting somewhere. Let's see. "analog" bah. I'm "geeky" and still dislike that term, but "vaping"... got to have that one. You see, vaping IS NOT SMOKING. What ticks me off is when people (vendors included) call it smoking. Grrrrr. It isn't. Not scientifically, not legally, not at all.

Sure, fog on the water in the early morning looks like smoke. But do we say "it's smokey" on the water? No, we call it fog, or even mist. So, "vaping" is a must. I haven't smoked in over 9 months, but I vape.

I don't like "analog" all that much because, strictly speaking, it's just not correct. However, I'm a pedant.

I'm actually more interested in who used the term first, and when. Facts like this will become part of "alternative smoking" history/folklore and should be recorded somewhere.

Cheers

^^^^^ and this

 

[Poppa D]

So, according to this thread, no one likes the term analog or ecig or even pv. Is everyone still down with the term 'vaping' or does that need to be changed too?

There are plenty of alternate terms for vaping too.

 

[jeannest]

you pick your battles. this isnt one of mine.

That's how I feel too. It doesn't bother me at all.

 

[Hypnophone]

Does anybody agree with me?
It's probably because Im an electrical engineer and when I hear the term analog, I think analog voltages.
It's not like we are vaping digitally or anything guys. Probably nobody cares, but I thought I would start this thread so we can discuss this (probably for the 100th time). Why cant ppl just refer to them a cigarettes? That's what they are isnt it?
Do you mean analog as in analogous to ecigarettes? Because that is technically incorrect, as ecigs are analogs of cigarettes. Also, ecigs are electrically analog, just like your amplifiers or LPs. They are by definition a set voltage that changes over time. Digital means that there is logic involved, and digital is even a subset of analog. There is no logic circuitry (apart maybe from the darwin) in ecigs. Even those mosfet buttons are analog circuits.
Maybe im just overanalyzing this and being a nerd, but thats my .

I'm an old audio engineer nerd and yeah, I had that same thought.
This could be over-analyzed to death. Somebody had to come up with a term for cigs vs PVs, and analog was chosen.
No, it ain't quite correct, but that's OK. I can live with it.
BTW, analog audio rules!

 

[ShannonA]

I dunno. I agree with swedishfish on this. Using disparaging terms is a way of expressing disdain, intended or not. When I smoked, I would sure have taken it that way.

Well the last two were sort of a joke but I also called cigs by both those names WHILE smoking.

" I'm going to go smoke a cancer stick"
"I'm going to add another nail to my coffin".

I guess I'm the only smoker who made light of my habbit *shrug*. That aside tobacco cigarette is about as accurate a term as I've heard. I remember we used to call them squares for awhile (never really got that one).

 

[GMoney]

Does anybody agree with me?
It's probably because Im an electrical engineer and when I hear the term analog, I think analog voltages.
It's not like we are vaping digitally or anything guys. Probably nobody cares, but I thought I would start this thread so we can discuss this (probably for the 100th time). Why cant ppl just refer to them a cigarettes? That's what they are isnt it?
Do you mean analog as in analogous to ecigarettes? Because that is technically incorrect, as ecigs are analogs of cigarettes. Also, ecigs are electrically analog, just like your amplifiers or LPs. They are by definition a set voltage that changes over time. Digital means that there is logic involved, and digital is even a subset of analog. There is no logic circuitry (apart maybe from the darwin) in ecigs. Even those mosfet buttons are analog circuits.
Maybe im just overanalyzing this and being a nerd, but thats my .

Yeah, it drives me nuts, too! It would be annoying to any EE. I understand why they are using it, they are thinking new-high tech-digital v. old fashioned-mechanical-analog. They don't realize that it is just wrong, and that all e-cigs are primarily an analog circuit.

That said, there are a lot of things that drive me crazy in this world - this is fairly low on my priority list to worry about. I personally, won't use the term, but I won't hassle anyone for using it.

 

[Antoly]

To be pedantic the term "atomizer" is incorrect as well, as it doesn't "atomize", say, propylene glycol into atoms of carbon, oxygen and hydrogen. What it really does, it vaporizes molecules of PG.

 

[ShannonA]

To be pedantic the term "atomizer" is incorrect as well, as it doesn't "atomize", say, propylene glycol into atoms of carbon, oxygen and hydrogen. What it really does, it vaporizes molecules of PG.

So it's a vaporizer? That sounds so sci fi!

 

[ShannonA]

To be pedantic the term "atomizer" is incorrect as well, as it doesn't "atomize", say, propylene glycol into atoms of carbon, oxygen and hydrogen. What it really does, it vaporizes molecules of PG.

So it's a vaporizer? That sounds so sci fi!

 

[proax9]

A slight twist to this thread- how would you change the lyrics to a song to reflect e-cig or PV: (whatever) instead of cigarettes (analogs- whatever):
Bob Sieger:
Later in the evening as you lie awake in bed
with the echoes from the amplifiers ringin' in your head
you smoke the day's last cigarette
remembering what she said

would be "vaped my last carto" (?)

 

[ShannonA]

A slight twist to this thread- how would you change the lyrics to a song to reflect e-cig or PV: (whatever) instead of cigarettes (analogs- whatever):
Bob Sieger:
Later in the evening as you lie awake in bed
with the echoes from the amplifiers ringin' in your head
you smoke the day's last cigarette
remembering what she said

would be "vaped my last carto" (?)

lol that would work as well as anything I can think up.

What about "I got one hand in my pocket and the other hand's flicking a cigarette"
the other hand's holding a pv?

 

[wdave]

I'm a systems engineer myself. Whenever I can't figure out a proper name to call something, I give it a totally meaninglesss name.

For example, whoever thought up the name "smurf" didn't worry about whether it had any real meaning or not.

So:

"Stip" will be the new name for an assembled ecig.

"Vant" will be the new name for a cart.

"Vanter" will be the new name for a cartomizer.

"Hottie" will be the new name for an atomizer (I really like this one)

"Nail" will be the new name for a regular cigarette.

Dave

 

[ShannonA]

I'm a systems engineer myself. Whenever I can't figure out a proper name to call something, I give it a totally meaninglesss name.

For example, whoever thought up the name "smurf" didn't worry about whether it had any real meaning or not.

So:

"Stip" will be the new name for an assembled ecig.

"Vant" will be the new name for a cart.

"Vanter" will be the new name for a cartomizer.

"Hottie" will be the new name for an atomizer (I really like this one)

"Nail" will be the new name for a regular cigarette.

Dave

Is that kind of like put the doo hickey in the thing a ma bob and while you're at it could you please hand me that thing a ma jigger?

 

[ropetrick]

I think "atomize" has such a long history of being misused -- way before PVs came along -- that its use gets grandfathered in as acceptable.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

I am FINALLY convinced to not accept the term analog

 

[JustMeAgain]

I think the original intention of the word analog was intended to be a disparaging remark about cigarettes - as in spam = junk email, but I've yet to get an email that contained meat byproducts.

 

[Zal42]

I think the original intention of the word analog was intended to be a disparaging remark about cigarettes - as in spam = junk email, but I've yet to get an email that contained meat byproducts.

I'm getting that impression. It never occurred to me because "analog" is not a disparaging term, it's a technical one. Something isn't bad, old-fashioned, or substandard because it is analog. It's simply the opposite of "digital" which has come to mean (erroneously in its own way) "having discrete states".