I Just Pre Ordered My Prodigy Thread

[Walrus]

Consumers dictate the price. Think of all the people spending $150 for the SD.. it probably costs no more than $15 - $25 to make.

If he sold it for $50 he probably couldn't keep up with the demand.

Hell, I spent $240 on my SD after shipping, since I bought the 'Ultimate' kit with the 801 adapter. I was more than happy to be $125 out the door for the Prodigy. It helps though that I already have 3 compatible battery chargers, and both CR123 and 18650 batts lying around.

 

[ejfan1977]

We need to also remember the development costs, such as design, locating a proper manufacturer, patents(?), just the start up production costs can be pretty high. There are a lot of hidden costs to designing and producing a new product as well as packaging printing, marketing etc.

I don't think his pricing is out of line. Remember... American made, not Chinese. Labor costs are like 100% higher here in the States as well as materials and the like. That is the price we have to pay for something produced in this country. As an example, I work in a hardware store and in our plumbing department we sell two types of floor flanges, one made in USA and one made in China. USA price $7.99, China price $2.99 same sizes, both are galvanized. That is the price difference between the manufacturing in the two countries.8-o Honest, no lie!

 

[tropic420]

I got one, i got one, now comes the real wait and I thought sitting here from 6am to 10pm was bad wait till next week when people start complaining even though they know it'll be a while

 

[Brian S]

Correct you are marc ... the difference(s)
Prodigy - Hand crafted and built beginning to end. Not a chopped $14 flashlight.
Prodigy - Production Assembly = USA Labor/Taxes Paid for.
Prodigy - Design and Engineering behind it all. You may not think its intricate, but the cad drawing may have you thoroughly impressed.
Prodigy - Lots of room to improve, adapt, so on and so forth.

You may not agree with the pricing, but hey, its the best we can do at this point until production numbers skyrocket allowing cost of materials and production time to go down. Its 1 thing running a production run of 1,000. Its completely different running 10,000

Appreciate the comment.

I thought your price was just right Cash. Bought 2 kits. After all, it is about the same price as an extended Kissbox, cheaper than the SD or GG, and much better looking. I was suprised they came with atomizers though. Are you giving up your private stash?

Brian

 

[sherid]

Way too pricey for me. I see that it is not for most people here, so I will enjoy vicariously.

 

[Flitzanu]

ordered ---- have an abundance of 901 parts so went with that kit.

really not sure why anyone is bothering with "omg i could build that for $10" because...you're not. no one is building them for $10 and selling them for $10 otherwise our vaping problems would all be solved.

 

[asidrave]

really not sure why anyone is bothering with "omg i could build that for $10" because...you're not. no one is building them for $10 and selling them for $10 otherwise our vaping problems would all be solved.

i completely agree....if i built anything similar to the Prodigy, GG, Whatever mod, Screwdriver.... i would charge the same price....why?

1. the time it takes to make it

2. if someone buys it...they want or expect a warranty

3. acquiring all the materials for the mod

 

[GrimmGreen]

i'm just waiting for the FLOOD of "ZOMG! PRODIGY VIDEO REVIEW!!" threads on the forum when this thing finally ships...

and although it's not really for me , i did grab an 801 manual passthrough , been wanting one of these for a while now.

 

[BiteMe]

Even though I don't think that it is what I'm looking for, I can certainly appreciate the time, effort, parts and quality that went into producing the Prodigy. As far as cost goes, I don't see it being any more expensive than a night out with my wife. Dinner, drinks, etc.
Skip the night out, and voilla! You've got it.
There's always a way if you want something bad enough.
My hat is off to Cash for taking on this project and making it the first "Made in the USA" mass produced e-smoking device.

 

[fiddler]

Order 16250 - 801 kit with passthroughs for 801 and 901.

I think the price is fair and reasonable. I'm sure Steve will have to sell quite a few V1's to recoup his R&D costs and start showing a profit. (I wonder how many have been pre-ordered?)

Sure you can make such a thing for less if you do it yourself. The scratch built line stage of my stereo rig cost me less than $100 in parts, and I couldn't get anything nearly as good for under $1,000 ready made. That's why DIY exists (as well as for the fun of it).

But I can't build everything and don't want to. We're getting a USA made product designed by someone who should know what most of us want at a competitive price, and I'm glad to be on board!

 

[bizzyb0t]

Hey Steve,

Is this device even patented? I've searched for a patent for this device online, and couldn't find one. Usually, manufactured devices made here in the USA are covered under some sort of patent. Someone could easily reverse engineer the device and mass produce it in China, those fabrication plants there can retool in a manner of days. Surely you'd want to patent the Prodigy so that it can't be legally copied?

Is the entire Prodigy actually crafted here in the USA? If so, is there anyway to get a few pictures of the manufacturing plant? How about a photo of the actual device with some smiling Americans on the factory floor? On your site, it says all parts were tested here in the USA, yet no real photos, not even on your site? If not all of it is actually fabricated here in the USA, how much of it is manufactured and tooled in China?

Being as this is the very first "USA Made" device, I'd think you guys would be eager to show it off.

I may sound skeptical, but that is because I am. At that hefty a price I'd think there would be a few credibility boosters in your marketing plan.

Will it say "Proudly Made in the USA" right on the device like most American Made products?

One final question, when is the LED flashlight top coming out for it? Seems it'd be pretty easy to make that an accessory.

 

[green-lantern]

Hey Steve,

Is this device even patented? I've searched for a patent for this device online, and couldn't find one. Usually, manufactured devices made here in the USA are covered under some sort of patent. Someone could easily reverse engineer the device and mass produce it in China, those fabrication plants there can retool in a manner of days. Surely you'd want to patent the Prodigy so that it can't be legally copied?

Is the entire Prodigy actually crafted here in the USA? If so, is there anyway to get a few pictures of the manufacturing plant? How about a photo of the actual device with some smiling Americans on the factory floor? On your site, it says all parts were tested here in the USA, yet no real photos, not even on your site? If not all of it is actually fabricated here in the USA, how much of it is manufactured and tooled in China?

Being as this is the very first "USA Made" device, I'd think you guys would be eager to show it off.

I may sound skeptical, but that is because I am. At that hefty a price I'd think there would be a few credibility boosters in your marketing plan.

Will it say "Proudly Made in the USA" right on the device like most American Made products?

One final question, when is the LED flashlight top coming out for it? Seems it'd be pretty easy to make that an accessory.

Sooooo Your asking for proof it's not made in a sweat shop or something

I'm sure you got him on the atomizer

 

[Obi Wan]

puresmoker.com says there will be an adaptor for m401,s within a few weeks !
i had planned on modding it to try to work with m401/m402 pilot atomizer/carts but it looks like i wont have to..
cant wait to actually see some pics of the first ones made..

 

[Slea]

I had to pay taxes. Hrumph.

 

[Majestic]

The Prodigy is a nice looking piece of hardware, but unfortunately it's a little more than I want to spend at this time. Maybe later if the price comes down and am still vaping I might consider one. For now my $6 AA mod will have to do.

 

[izark]

I have had 5 batteries die this month, rn-4072, I have bought 3 kits to have enough parts plus i have purchased 6 atomizers, $139.95 is not a huge price when you consider i have spent more than that on just my 3 kits. I truly beleive it will be cheaper than replacing the throwaway batteries at any where from $12.00 to $15.00 per.

If i were to do it over i would have bought this first and ended up saving money.

 

[sherid]

It's the initial outlay of money that one has to consider, especially for those of us who have already spent a ton of money experimenting with new products. For me, buying sight unseen and unreviewed is a lesson learned the hard and expensive way. I know I am in the minority here, but I still want my e cigarette to resemble the real thing. Although I know this thing probably knocks other models out of the ballpark, it is just too expensive for me. What is the warranty on this model? I learned never to buy any product unless there is a decent warranty. Additionally, I cannot get past the crap pipe look of some of these newer models.

 

[LuckySevens4U]

I believe he wrote here that he will be offering a 14 day money back guarantee...no?

 

[lmcc]

Hell, I spent $240 on my SD after shipping, since I bought the 'Ultimate' kit with the 801 adapter. I was more than happy to be $125 out the door for the Prodigy. It helps though that I already have 3 compatible battery chargers, and both CR123 and 18650 batts lying around.

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Hi, my 1st post &
I've been reading about this .. but there is a lot to read here.
& I have some health issues .. so, I'll use that.
I need to get OFF of the reg. cigs.
I think I understand that this unit will use regular or rechargable
regular batteries that we can buy anywhere.
I think that would be a big help, since I see that many are having
so many problems with the batteries.
Is that right?
I want to order one What all do I need?
I want to order everything that I will need to begin with ..
does everything that I need come from the order site?
or do I need to add something from another site?
I have nothing now > ZERO.
I just found out about these a short time ago.
I would really appreciate it if someone would list the sites
and what I will need now and in the immediate future.
THANK YOU SO MUCH
(WOW! How many "I"s can I put in one post ..
well, it is about me, huh?
Lorene
PS: Is there a time or product pre-order limit?

 

[kaeo773]

I cannot get past the crap pipe look of some of these newer models.[/quote]



I 100% agree with you. I am sure they perform awesome, I just can't imagine paying that much for a vaporizer that I would never vape in public.