I know, you'll tell me to get a Provari... BUT...!

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I promise you, there are differences in quality of batteries. Ego's might all be using the same battery, I don't know if they are or not but there are differences in batteries besides just chemistry.

True, but chemistry has nothing to do with capacity expressed in mAh (milliAmper hours). I use AW IMR batteries in my ProVari and I also use stock eGo batteries, regulated and unregulated, that come with plain Li-Ion batteries. A 700 mAh Li-Ion should last the same length of time as the 700 mAh AW IMR (Li-Mn) battery.
 

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True, but chemistry has nothing to do with capacity expressed in mAh (milliAmper hours). I use AW IMR batteries in my ProVari and I also use stock eGo batteries, regulated and unregulated, that come with plain Li-Ion batteries. A 700 mAh Li-Ion should last the same length of time as the 700 mAh AW IMR (Li-Mn) battery.

What was brought up was batteries barely working. I was not talking about mAh of the batteries. he either got bad batteries or he has a bad charger.
 
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Yup, that's perfect. Unfortunately, not in stock. Know any other suppliers?

As an aside -- I still don't get it. What do mods do that eGos can't?

That uses a 14500 replaceable battery --- 900mAh and they're about $5 when it's time to replace. So you get a bigger (fatter, taller, heavier) PV that does a few things that you professed not to need/want for two to three times as much as buying two similar capacity Egos

What do mods do that Egos can't? Variable wattage (Egos can do variable voltage). And replaceable batteries.
 

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As an aside -- I still don't get it. What do mods do that eGos can't?

Depends on the mod. :D

The best feature of APVs is that they come with replaceable batteries--you don't have to chuck your PV when the battery nears the end of its life. You have a choice of batteries you put in your mods. They are sturdier, last longer and some offer variable voltage and wattage, Ohm reader, sophisticated circuit protection and dual 510/eGo connection, for instance.
 

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What do mods do that Egos can't? Variable wattage (Egos can do variable voltage). And replaceable batteries.

Got it. So variable voltage can be had in an eGo with a twist, right? And replaceable batteries won't solve my problem because "a battery is a battery".

So I should be sticking eGo and buy a new charger? Sorry, I'm a still a rookie.
 

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What was brought up was batteries barely working. I was not talking about mAh of the batteries. he either got bad batteries or he has a bad charger.

I understand, I wasn't being argumentative. Just trying to explain things...

I agree about the charger. I use a Joyetech USB fast charger and a wall adapter. I never charge from the USB port on my computer.
 

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Got it. So variable voltage can be had in an eGo with a twist, right? And replaceable batteries won't solve my problem because "a battery is a battery".

So I should be sticking eGo and buy a new charger? Sorry, I'm a still a rookie.

How are you charging your batteries now?
 

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Got it. So variable voltage can be had in an eGo with a twist, right? And replaceable batteries won't solve my problem because "a battery is a battery".

So I should be sticking eGo and buy a new charger? Sorry, I'm a still a rookie.

Yes, a Twist/Spinner/VV will do simple variable voltage. And you may not even care about that (some don't).

As others have said, the ability to replace just a battery is a big deal when you have all that other sophisticated electronics and screens and stuff of an "Advanced Personal Vaporizer" (APV) mod like a Provari. But you're paying for that. And the replacement batteries still cost money.

When you get into the fancy replacement batteries you can see some differences in the quality and chemistry that may make it last longer or cycle deeper, but mostly be SAFER when discharging quickly like some high-performance mods can. If you want to get into sub-ohm dual-coil high wattage vapin, you might want to consider paying up for a "safer" battery. But we're getting way beyond where a self proclaimed rookie should worry about.

If I were you, I'd try a few name brand 1000 or 1300 Egos for your next round. Charge them daily, or even more often, and use the right wall charger. This advice is based only on what you've told us. You don't need anything fancier or more expensive. Expecting a $100K Mercedes S550 to last three times as long as a $20K Ford Focus is kinda what we're talking about here, and you're happy with something that gets you from A to B at this point.
 

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...They're too big and I just don't like how they look.

Silly? Vane? Maybe. I like my "big" eGo. I fits nicely in my pocket and doesn't look weird.

It doesn't mean I won't end up with a Provari, but I'm really resisting it. Every time I look at my shopping cart on the Provari website, I cringe just a little, partially at the price and partially at the look of it. Mostly the latter, really.

I keep coming back to things that I've found on this forum (long time lurker, first time poster), the Valkyrie and Semovar (and something Ant -- can't remember). I'd rather not spend that kind of money, of course. I'm not a 100% comitted vaper.

Can anyone help me find an appropriate device?

I want something:
  1. good, no tune ups, no fussing, no contraptions
  2. to replace my eGo style batteries
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  4. I don't want one of those boxes
  5. I don't know enough to know what it means when they talk about "hybrids", "mechanical" etc. And quite frankly, I don't care to learn. I just want something that works and works well.

If it's the Provari that I should get, let me know. But if there's an alternative that fits that description better, would love to hear from you guys.

If I sound a little frustrated it's because I don't know where to find a list of devices that are good and I feel like I've spent too much time on this. Every store seems to have its own small lines, and I just need a Vape Depot that has everything in one place so I can pick.

With thanks in advance.

I was in your shoes just a month and a half ago. I started with standard ego, went to ego twist, then iTaste SVD, now I'm using mechanical mods and not looking back. My SVD now serves me as an expensive voltmeter :toast:
 

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You don't need anything fancier or more expensive. Expecting a $100K Mercedes S550 to last three times as long as a $20K Ford Focus is kinda what we're talking about here, and you're happy with something that gets you from A to B at this point.

Got it. OK, you just saved me a couple hundred bucks. Thank you to everyone for your help!

So now, where do I get those batteries? I saw "discountvapers" but I'm guessing by "brand name" you meant hat you don't recommend them... So which devices and from where and I'll place my order. :)
 

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Got it. So variable voltage can be had in an eGo with a twist, right? And replaceable batteries won't solve my problem because "a battery is a battery".

So I should be sticking eGo and buy a new charger? Sorry, I'm a still a rookie.

If you have any batteries that are still working good try a new charger first. Some people consider eGo batteries a disposable device but they should not be failing at the rate you are having problems unless by coincidence you have consecutive batteries and they had a problem in manufacture of consecutive batteries but that is highly unlikely.
 

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No, I'm not about about to tell to go out and buy a Provari. Although you can one buy of these and another one or two as backups for the price of one Provari I'm not about to tell you go out and buy a Sigelei Zmax telescopic flat top V3 or V5. Despite the fact that I've used mine every day, all day long for over six months and it sits here on the desk today I'm not going to tell you that. The fact that it uses any of the following batteries: 18350, 2x18350, 18490, 18500 or 18650 probably won't interest anyone. ;)

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Yeah, I get that. My issue isn't how long they last before needing to be recharged, it's how long before a recharge barely does anything.

The things that come to mind about that: The charger! Bum bum bum... Here we go:

Do you have more than one eGo charger dongle? (You should have a backup.)

Do the batteries behave the same way when used with a new/different charger? You may just have a bad charger dongle.

What are you sticking the charger dongle into? A USB port or an AC to USB adapter? Have you tried a new/different AC to USB adapter?

Do you clean up after yourself? Any liquid in the 510 connector on the battery or on the charger connector impedes conductivity and can screw with charging. Clean both with Q-tips.

Parts is parts. Do you have the right parts?

Both the charger dongle and any AC to USB adapter should have a (small) plate on it with numbers and stuff.

The charger plate should read:

Input: DC 5V 500 mA
Output: DC 4.2V 420 mA

The AC to USB adapter should read:

Input: 110-240V
Output: DC 5V 500 mA

If "Input" reads "220-240V" that's an incorrect adapter. It's a European only model. There are some places out there selling 'em and not paying attention. It won't work properly at 120V.

If "Output" reads 500 mA or higher that's ok. If "Output reads less than 500 mA that's a problem. (Like some 300 mA cell phone models.) It's not providing enough current for the charger to work.

Check your charger and AC to USB adapter. See what you got. And regardless if you are having problems with multiple eGo class batteries the first thing you do is try a new charger and AC adapter.

The resistance of you device is fine at 2.5 ohms so that wouldn't be the cause of premature battery death.
 

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Got it. OK, you just saved me a couple hundred bucks. Thank you to everyone for your help!

So now, where do I get those batteries? I saw "discountvapers" but I'm guessing by "brand name" you meant hat you don't recommend them... So which devices and from where and I'll place my order. :)

Do you use CanVape? They are a reputable dealer and often recommended by our Canadian friends here. They even have their own subforum. You may want to visit them and talk to a few locals.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canvape/

Generally, if you want to stay with eGo-class batteries, I recommend eGo-C Twist or Vision Spinner with a good USB fast charger and a wall adapter. Kanger eVod VV is also well liked, so is SmokTech VV Winder.

The iTaste vv V3 is a bit superior to the eGo-type batts and comes with all the features that APVs offer. So is the MVP--but you don't want a box...

Good luck.
 
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Ok, Here is my :2c:

$12.15 Kamry eCab V2 Electronic Regulated MOD / Battery Compartment at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
$12.64 EVOD Electronic Cigarette Round Mouth Atomizer (5-Pack / 1.5mL) - 2.0
1 IMR 14500 Limn 700mAh High Drain Rechargeable Lithium Battery 3 7V Button Top | eBay

Then you still have to find a charger for the batteries. I have 2 eCabs and 4 batteries. Just a little larger than an EGO, but not by much. Different as not painted, so a different feel. But not a lot of cost, just a long wait for delivery, anywhere from 10 days to a month from FT. Mine have been hitting 11 to 14 days, but don't order batteries or juice from FT.

Just my :2c:

Vape On
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The things that come to mind about that: The charger! Bum bum bum... Here we go:

Do you have more than one eGo charger dongle? (You should have a backup.)
Yes.

Do the batteries behave the same way when used with a new/different charger? You may just have a bad charger dongle.
Yes.

What are you sticking the charger dongle into? A USB port or an AC to USB adapter? Have you tried a new/different AC to USB adapter?
AC -> USB -> eGo. Yes.


Do you clean up after yourself? Any liquid in the 510 connector on the battery or on the charger connector impedes conductivity and can screw with charging. Clean both with Q-tips.
Haven't been doing this. Will try. Thanks for the tip. (Wokka Wokka)

Parts is parts. Do you have the right parts?
AFAIK, Yes.


The charger plate should read: Input: DC 5V 500 mA Output: DC 4.2V 420 mA
Will check.

Thanks for the tips!
 
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