I need a better e-cig, but can't afford one, is there anything I can do to make my SmokingEverywhere e-cig work better?

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DCrist721

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As the title says, I need a low-cost solution for making this thing a better e-cig.

Lately I started coughing up a lot of phlegm because I've been smoking a lot more then I used to. I've been out of work for a couple of months due to a spinal injury and because I'm bored at home all day I've been smoking a lot, almost two packs a day without even realizing it.

So when I was first introduced to e-cigs by a Smoking Everywhere kiosk at the mall, I knew that I had to get this thing to save my lungs, because I couldn't really cut down on the analogs much no matter how hard I tried. I got home and thought it over, and with the little free money I did have available, I bought a Smoking Everywhere starter kit online, as well as a bunch of the Smoking Everywhere cartridges. And then when I started checking out this site I saw that I had been way overcharged, and for a lousy model at that.

Well I finally got it and after trying it out it functioned so poorly that I didn't feel like I was smoking at all, and I was straight back to where I started in smoking my analogs. The vapor production is very poor, and you have to draw very hard to get any vapor at all. The whole thing feels more like a chore then it feels like smoking.

Is there anyway I can get some better function out of it until I can get a nice one when I'm able to go back to work? I realize that there is a modding sub-forum but the solutions to this could very likely be things other then modifying the actual e-cig.

Perhaps some kind of cheap and easy device I could make that would draw the smoke for me so I can take a full hit at once with an easier draw?

A brand of eliquid that produces more vapor or denser vapor, therefore making me have to draw less for the same amount of vapor?

Something I could add to the eliquid to make it produce more vapor, like by thinning it down somehow?

Or some kind of very simple/basic modification to the device?

Someone that would be willing to donate a compatible atomizer that I could replace the original one with?

Any ideas would be appreciated. I really need to turn this thing into a better performing e-cig, otherwise I'm going to end up in the hospital because of my own lack of willpower and poor choice in product.
 
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lordmage

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DC sorry to hear about your proplem i was there as far as the device you may have gotten a KR808 which might be compatible with the mini fogger or other minis out there.
most starter kits come have everything you need. you could look into a dse-901 or RN4075.

i know you want to make use out of your device you have but you could get lucky the the swaps should have someting.

i had a smoke every where but you might be lucky and get the to work with the m401/pilot/dura line atomiser's my suggestion if you can return your smoke everywhere for refund to the site. talk to customer service you might get lucky
 

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DC sorry to hear about your proplem i was there as far as the device you may have gotten a KR808 which might be compatible with the mini fogger or other minis out there.
most starter kits come have everything you need. you could look into a dse-901 or RN4075.

i know you want to make use out of your device you have but you could get lucky the the swaps should have someting.

i had a smoke every where but you might be lucky and get the to work with the m401/pilot/dura line atomiser's my suggestion if you can return your smoke everywhere for refund to the site. talk to customer service you might get lucky

I already did talk to him, but he only allow returns that are unopened.

Thanks so much for your advice though. Another member seemed to think that the Smoking Everywhere e-cigs are the KR808-A model. If this is the case would it still be compatible with regular KR808 parts?

I wish I would have actually tried it when I was at the mall instead of being deterred by germs. I'm sure a lot of other people are in the same boat and ended up buying the starter kit without trying it themselves. I really want to go to the mall and tell people how terrible it is and how there are much better products out there at much lower prices as one member had suggested. Does anyone know if I can get in trouble for this? Or I could just bring plastic wrap so everyone who' doesn't want to put their mouth where hundred of others have been can try it without worry.
 
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I already did talk to him, but he only allow returns that are unopened.
I'm sorry to hear about your situation. I haven't had any luck fixing that product problem so unfortunately no suggestions.

Please consider filing a complaint with the BBB over the shoddy product and poor customer service. As Kit the journalist noted, BBB is one tool journos use when investigating these companies. Some consumers check it also.

http://complaints.bbb.org/
 

DCrist721

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I'm sorry to hear about your situation. I haven't had any luck fixing that product problem so unfortunately no suggestions.

Please consider filing a complaint with the BBB over the shoddy product and poor customer service. As Kit the journalist noted, BBB is one tool journos use when investigating these companies. Some consumers check it also.

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I'll be sure to do so. I can only comment on the product's poor quality though, not the company's customer service, because I didn't purchase the item directly from the Smoking Everywhere company.
 

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Ok, I got stuck with my kr-808a (lousy POS isn’t it) here is my suggestion on making it a bit better.
It is best to drip with this one.
Take the inner cart out and the remove the cap off the top of the cart. Widen the hole with an X-Acto or drill.

Take the LED cap off for better air flow. (You could also widen the existing air paths on the cap then replace it)

Now here is the tricky one. Make you four hole atomizer into a 3 hole. How I did this was to take a very small piece of card stock paper and stick it in one hole and carefully cut it off then I carefully put a drop of liquid (not gel) super glue on it to set it in place. Make sure not to get the glue on the threads.
If you make it a 2 hole atomizer the draw is too hard IMO. I hope that helps.
 

trog100

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if u have the ability to make your own e cig... follow the modders path...

use cheap generic atomizers.. cheap top up fluid and it wont cost much..

but there are no magic tricks to makes the normal e cigs work better...

u bought a product where 95% of the price u paid is sales promotion...

if u cant make your own e smoking device..buy a 901 starer kit and take it from there.. it certainly should not cost any more than the real cig route..

trog
 

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You could try going to the mall again or sending someone to exchange your Smokingeverywhere cig for the "long" version I think its called. The first one I bought from them was just awful... had the same problems you did with the vapor production.

I went back to the mall and complained. The sales guy exchanged my old one for the "new" and improved version (i think its called "long") . It was slightly longer and had a thicker radius. Looks exactly the same in style.

It actually did work A LOT better. Much better vapor production but not much of a throat hit. Still not good enough for a heavy smoker. Bring your cartridges too if you decide to exhange cuz they aren't interchangeable.

Or...

Do what others mentioned. Get yourself a generic or mod. Smokingeverywhere really is 90% marked up!


good luck
 

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As the title says, I need a low-cost solution for making this thing a better e-cig.

Lately I started coughing up a lot of phlegm because I've been smoking a lot more then I used to. I've been out of work for a couple of months due to a spinal injury and because I'm bored at home all day I've been smoking a lot, almost two packs a day without even realizing it.

So when I was first introduced to e-cigs by a Smoking Everywhere kiosk at the mall, I knew that I had to get this thing to save my lungs, because I couldn't really cut down on the analogs much no matter how hard I tried. I got home and thought it over, and with the little free money I did have available, I bought a Smoking Everywhere starter kit online, as well as a bunch of the Smoking Everywhere cartridges. And then when I started checking out this site I saw that I had been way overcharged, and for a lousy model at that.

Well I finally got it and after trying it out it functioned so poorly that I didn't feel like I was smoking at all, and I was straight back to where I started in smoking my analogs. The vapor production is very poor, and you have to draw very hard to get any vapor at all. The whole thing feels more like a chore then it feels like smoking.

Is there anyway I can get some better function out of it until I can get a nice one when I'm able to go back to work? I realize that there is a modding sub-forum but the solutions to this could very likely be things other then modifying the actual e-cig.

Perhaps some kind of cheap and easy device I could make that would draw the smoke for me so I can take a full hit at once with an easier draw?

A brand of eLiquid that produces more vapor or denser vapor, therefore making me have to draw less for the same amount of vapor?

Something I could add to the eLiquid to make it produce more vapor, like by thinning it down somehow?

Or some kind of very simple/basic modification to the device?

Someone that would be willing to donate a compatible atomizer that I could replace the original one with?

Any ideas would be appreciated. I really need to turn this thing into a better performing e-cig, otherwise I'm going to end up in the hospital because of my own lack of willpower and poor choice in product.

I bought a DSE901B from ebay for $29.00 including shipping from China. It works great. It might be easier than drilling and possibly breaking what you have. You could also sell your SE on ebay and get back at least part of what you paid. There are lots of them on there. If you could get $65.00 for it, you could buy two sets of the DSE's, not lose any real money, and have a much better e cig
 

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I agree with what everyone else says but personally would recommend a penstyle atomiser and USB passthrough if you just need vape at home or a complete starter kit for on the move, the batteries hold up very well indeed and cheap, the cartridges hold alot of juice and directly dripping on the atomiser works very well with the penstyle if you prefer not to spend too much money on the cartridges. You also won't find a better throat hit and taste for the price if your a heavy smoker.
 

justtry

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New member here....

I have a smoking everywhere cig, the 3.0/"gold" edition. Anyway i got suckered just like alot of us from the mall kiosk, and the lure of something to offset real cigs. After wasting of 100 bucks on the version 2.0 the atomizer broke after 2 weeks. I went back to the mall and badgered them into giving me a new atomizer with some free carts, so that held me over for about a month, then the batteries started to go out, both of them lasting only 12 mins, truly terrible! Went back to the kiosk, and caught a break, the guy that owns the kiosk was there and rather than give me new batteries, he just gave me a new 3.0 or "gold" as they call it, kit. Not a bad cig, but def not worth over a hundred bucks. So i became fed up with the carts, they lasted maybe 30 mins on a heavy use. Went back the kiosk to buy some carts, sold out, great....So i've been reading about totally wicked on here for awhile, i ordered some from pillbox, 18mg marlbro and a new atomizer for my cig. When i got it i loaded an empty cart up with this glorious liquid(smells great!, very nice) put the fresh atomizer on my clunker smokingeverywhere ecig and damn what a difference my friends!! This thing smokes like champ, big time vapor great throat hit, fabulous draw....its like a janty kissbox (almost) in terms of vapor and draw! so for 40 bucks for some great liquid and an atomizer, you can upgrade a terrible product, smokineverywhere ecigs, into a wonderful smoker that rivals alot of others. I'm convinced that the smoking everywhere carts are the problem, too weak and not nearly enough vapor to justify the price. a good liquid and a fresh atomizer really does do this thing justice!
 

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my friend has a kissbox, it is amazing, i got the smoking everywhere cig before i knew what a ripoff it was, since i modified it slightly i dont have the need to buy any others.


heres what i got that made it much much better...for me anyway, everyone is different! on the the wicked website:

FLUID/JUICE---18mg 30ml high marlbro
ATOMIZER--- 10cm super e.cig atomizer

KEEP IN MIND THIS ATOMIZER WILL LIKELY ONLY WORK WITH THE SMOKINGEVERYWHERE 3.0/GOLD, NOT WITH THE 2.0 OR kr-808a

THE FLUID CAN STILL BE USED I WOULD IMAGINE, WITH ANY E.CIG

with this combination I now have massive vapor with a great throat hit from a cig that is terrible with the stock carts and atomizer.

its a great budget fix for your smokingeverywhere cigs!
 

Kate

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Thanks for the info.

I heard that the Gold/3.0 was a KR808. It sounds like you have a DSE103 or RN4081 or something standard like that, I'm not sure which Wicked stock. I've not heard of super mini parts being compatible with different models so I wonder if you had that model in the first place why the atomiser was of a lesser standard than the one from Wicked. :confused:
 

justtry

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you'll have to forgive me im not to keen on model numbers. the first SmEv cig i had was the smaller version, you can find the review of that by parkeddd on youtube. After that one failed the guy at the kiosk gave me the newer 3.0 verison which seems to be completely compatible with the products from pillbox that are labeled Super e.cig (10cm). Im sure there are other out there like that also. That being said, im convinced that its the wicked liquid that brings this thing out of the woodwork, it truly is fantastic, if you havn't tried it, def get some, and if un-sure about the atomizer i would just email pillbox to find out. For my 3.0 version I went on the picture alone from the website and took a chance and bought it-it fits and it works!


massive vapor was key for me, this cig is like a fog machine now!
 

DCrist721

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Thanks a lot justtry. I might be getting some cash upfront for illustrating a children's book, but we shall see. I think I'll do what you did because to buy a completely new e-cig will make me feel even worse about wasting all the money I did on the Smoking Everywhere e-cig.

And Kate, are you really a nun? I've read posts which suggest that you are, it's just hard for me to imagine a nun who smokes.
 

justtry

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just make sure before buying the atomizer that you check out the picture first to see if it looks similar to yours. If not badger the bloody hell out of the smoking everywhere kiosk freaks until they give you a new atomizer (say yours isnt firing right at times), a new atomizer albeit a SmEv atomizer is always better, then load up on the wicked fluid and you'll see the difference with the vapor everywhere!
 
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