I really want to throw away my Vivi Nova. Please help.

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Ok sorry that i haven't reported back as i would have liked but nonetheless my nova has been cleaned and yes i do have a regular cleaning regime for ALL my vape gear, but back to the matter at hand. I did a vodka bath for a about 30 mins, let it dry, and now i'm not getting enough vapor to even tell if it tastes burnt or not. It may be the pomegranate juice that im using or the devices that i've tried it on. So far ive only tried it on my twist, my brothers apollo vtube, and my dads ego yet i'm still not getting enough vapor from any of these devices. I would like to try it on a provari but due to time constraints, I can't head to my local vape shop and use theirs.
 
I might just have to take one of the posters advice and just buy a few more which I was planning on doing anyway because I was so impressed by it when i first got it, but as of right now I feel a little disappointed.

Also I was wondering which one is better, the vivi nova or the smoktech screw tank, in terms of durability, build quality, and vape quality.
 

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Two simple thing that might improve your vapor, first the little silicone tube on the top of the atty has a top and a bottom. Put it on upside down and it won't wick properly. Second get a piece of 100% cotton, yarn, string, cheesecloth about the diameter of the stock wicks, (boil it clean if necessary) and lay it across the coil before replacing the silicone plug. It will improve the wicking greatly, take away the burn... :)

Is this that extra string that they tell you to remove in all the youtube videos I've watched? Always wondered why it was there if they just tell you to remove it.
 

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Ok sorry that i haven't reported back as i would have liked but nonetheless my nova has been cleaned and yes i do have a regular cleaning regime for ALL my vape gear, but back to the matter at hand. I did a vodka bath for a about 30 mins, let it dry, and now i'm not getting enough vapor to even tell if it tastes burnt or not. It may be the pomegranate juice that im using or the devices that i've tried it on. So far ive only tried it on my twist, my brothers apollo vtube, and my dads ego yet i'm still not getting enough vapor from any of these devices. I would like to try it on a provari but due to time constraints, I can't head to my local vape shop and use theirs.

i forgot to mention that the first several vapes after a vodka bath will have low temp, and low vapor production. wait for the wicks to be completely saturated with eliquid, then take a few vapes to get the blood pumping through its veins so-to-speak. my expectation is that youll be up and running in no time.

as far as the smok tech screwtank vs the vision vivi nova goes, i am about to find out. i really dig my novas so im giving the smok one a try. smok does have great cartos, so maybe their tank is great too. ive been hearing good things. should be right on par or possibly better than the nova.
 

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Don't have experience with the Vivi nova, but I do have a few of the Smokteks. The tube material in the Smoktek is polypropylene (frosted, safe from some juices that can melt or crack polycarbonate). The contacts to the tube and endcaps are metal to metal threadings in the Smoktek, possibly making it more durable than the metal to plastic threading in the Vivi's. Slightly more juice capacity in the Smoktek.

I had noted a greasy "perspiration" on the tubes at times. I checked the connections of the endcaps and tube, which could have been more snuggly tightened on my part. After making certain of this on all of my tanks, I have not noted any more of this "sweating" on the tubes. Easy to fill. No leaks (other than the sweating noticed on the tubes, which can be prevented). Would look nicer if the metal had a more "polished" look.
 

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Is this that extra string that they tell you to remove in all the youtube videos I've watched? Always wondered why it was there if they just tell you to remove it.

I haven't watched the youtube videos, so I'm not usre what they are removing or how. But the stock silica wicks don't seem to draw juice to the coil very well, give you dry hits. You can just leave them, trim them down very short (my preference) or remove them from inside the coil (without distrubing the coil too much, not gonna happen with my hands..:))

Rewicking the coil without building a new coil has not been a success for me...YMMV. The couple of cotton strings laying across the coil keeps it damp and vaping nice, no flavor loss and IMHO better overall flavor.
 

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One thing to note after doing a dry burn it has been recommended on another thread to rinse the head again to remove all the gunk that you just burned off so that it is not on the coil to give a burnt taste. The way i clean mine is to just rinse them under warm to hot water then let them dry if the coil looks gunked i dry burn if not i dont. I have 2 mini's and one full sized and do them all that way i do have 5 heads between them and just rotate them around. I have changed the wick and coil on one of the 2.4ohm ones out with a 3.0ohm coil for a Hyper SRT coil and it works wonderfully and is prewound YMMV on that tho will be making my own soon. Hope this helps. :toast:
 

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I clean my ViVis every two days. I clean as Bronze suggested and let the coil (not an atty, by the way) dry on a paper towel for a day. Not a problem though because I rotate coils. I have several tanks, so i am cleaning at least one or two every night. Your ViVi (or Mini) is your friend. Pamper it and it will not betray you.
 

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I clean my ViVis every two days. I clean as Bronze suggested and let the coil (not an atty, by the way) dry on a paper towel for a day. Not a problem though because I rotate coils. I have several tanks, so i am cleaning at least one or two every night. Your ViVi (or Mini) is your friend. Pamper it and it will not betray you.


Uh, well for technicalities' sake, it IS an atomizer. Is it also called a "coil"? Sure, you can call it that. but it is an atomizer as well.

I call shenanigans on this guy.

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One thing to note after doing a dry burn it has been recommended on another thread to rinse the head again to remove all the gunk that you just burned off so that it is not on the coil to give a burnt taste. The way i clean mine is to just rinse them under warm to hot water then let them dry if the coil looks gunked i dry burn if not i dont. I have 2 mini's and one full sized and do them all that way i do have 5 heads between them and just rotate them around. I have changed the wick and coil on one of the 2.4ohm ones out with a 3.0ohm coil for a Hyper SRT coil and it works wonderfully and is prewound YMMV on that tho will be making my own soon. Hope this helps. :toast:


Rewicking is (apparently) the best answer. :toast:
 

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also, dry off the area inside the top cap that becomes visible when you remove the drip tip. i get backwash in there sometimes. that could also be a source of your gurgle. also, this should be a regular place for you to wipe clean. the backwash can roll back down into the tank, and im pretty sure vaping backwash isnt too high on anybodys list of things to do.

^This. When I got my VVN last week, I was stoked. Now I'm a big carto/tank user and I never get juice in my mouth but I noticed on the vivi nova after five or six good draws I'd get a taste of juice. It was bummin me out big time since I really wanted to like the vvn. Flavor and vapor was great on the 2.8 head /w a provari. I finally realized that after each draw, leftover vapor was condensating between the drip tip and top cap in that little recessed area. It seems they even put a little o-ring inside the stock drip tip to help /w the problem. So I was getting fed up with having to pull my drip tips ever so often to wipe out that condensation and started digging in the forum one night at work. Someone had posted about it and said adapt your drawing style. In other words, let off the power button just one second before you stop drawing. That way you draw just about all that extra vapor out of that recessed area. Problem reduced by probably 90%. Such a simple thing. Still need to wipe it out on occasion. Now I find my self drawing that way even on my carto/tanks. ymmv.

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So I was getting fed up with having to pull my drip tips ever so often to wipe out that condensation and started digging in the forum one night at work. Someone had posted about it and said adapt your drawing style. In other words, let off the power button just one second before you stop drawing. That way you draw just about all that extra vapor out of that recessed area. Problem reduced by probably 90%. Such a simple thing. Still need to wipe it out on occasion. Now I find my self drawing that way even on my carto/tanks. ymmv.

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I've heard that solution many times. Never been an issue for me because I think I do that naturally. While your issue doesn't apply, I find 80% of the reason why people have trouble with their ViVi's is because they don't keep them clean.

Good advice chohan.
 
as far as the smok tech screwtank vs the vision vivi nova goes, i am about to find out. i really dig my novas so im giving the smok one a try. smok does have great cartos, so maybe their tank is great too. ive been hearing good things. should be right on par or possibly better than the nova.

Please let me know because my local shop is now carrying the screwtank and I want to know before buying it
 

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Ok, I've had enough of my Nova... I give in. I think they all need to be thrown away (or at least heavily modded-rewound, rewicked, etc).

Here's why:

The coils are just not made well. At the best voltage level for the given coils' resistance, they burn up.

The wicks do not work well enough to keep the coils wet.

The tank requires modification and fiddling, and even with said modification does not work as intended. I have still been unable to get a good taste out of it for any length of time.

The modification required to *help* with the burnt taste is potentially dangerous to the user and the equipment that the tank is on.

I've tried every atty sent with the device. I've tried every suggestion on the forum threads for modding and cleaning (except cotton wicks-no, I won't go there, this thing should work as intended without that kind of modification), including my own. The silica wicks just do not do a good enough job; It is an inherent design flaw that really needs to be fixed before the tank will ever work correctly. I am definitely ...... right now, and rightly so- I just lost $12 on a tank that doesn't work. It sucks.

Maybe I'll rebuild the whole coil assemblies some day, but for now, I'll have to stick with the smoktech units that also kind of suck, in different ways- but at least THEY give me decent draws, with no burnt taste.
 

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Ok, I've had enough of my Nova... I give in. I think they all need to be thrown away (or at least heavily modded-rewound, rewicked, etc).

Here's why:

The coils are just not made well. At the best voltage level for the given coils' resistance, they burn up.

The wicks do not work well enough to keep the coils wet.

The tank requires modification and fiddling, and even with said modification does not work as intended. I have still been unable to get a good taste out of it for any length of time.

The modification required to *help* with the burnt taste is potentially dangerous to the user and the equipment that the tank is on.

I've tried every atty sent with the device. I've tried every suggestion on the forum threads for modding and cleaning (except cotton wicks-no, I won't go there, this thing should work as intended without that kind of modification), including my own. The silica wicks just do not do a good enough job; It is an inherent design flaw that really needs to be fixed before the tank will ever work correctly. I am definitely ...... right now, and rightly so- I just lost $12 on a tank that doesn't work. It sucks.

Maybe I'll rebuild the whole coil assemblies some day, but for now, I'll have to stick with the smoktech units that also kind of suck, in different ways- but at least THEY give me decent draws, with no burnt taste.

Well, if I were you, I'd do the same thing. I am vaping mine right now (as I have all day) and I haven't had a lick of trouble. Factory wicks, factory coils and all. You are just suffering from a bad case of Novaitis for some one reason or another. Wish it could be explained. What kind of juice are you running through it?

BTW, is it a genuine Vivi Nova or a knockoff possibly? Where'd you get it?
 

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Well, if I were you, I'd do the same thing. I am vaping mine right now (as I have all day) and I haven't had a lick of trouble. Factory wicks, factory coils and all. You are just suffering from a bad case of Novaitis for some one reason or another. Wish it could be explained. What kind of juice are you running through it?

BTW, is it a genuine Vivi Nova or a knockoff possibly? Where'd you get it?

You know what, I just won my first contest here on the boards, so my night actually just got a heck of a lot better...:toast: :vapor:

...anyway, I got it from litecig, who I've been happy with thus far as far as genuine products are concerned. I'm most surprised that my 2.8 ohm coil with the different wick-style has the exact SAME problem as the LR coils! It's so weird.
 

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You know what, I just won my first contest here on the boards, so my night actually just got a heck of a lot better...:toast: :vapor:

...anyway, I got it from litecig, who I've been happy with thus far as far as genuine products are concerned. I'm most surprised that my 2.8 ohm coil with the different wick-style has the exact SAME problem as the LR coils! It's so weird.

Yeah, I don't know. I know nothing about litecig. Went to their site and they look legit to me. I see they selll the V2 version. I think that just means they are short wicks. I have the V2.5 and I think that just means they are long wicks. I got one of my Mini Nova's from GotVapes and another one from Carolina Vapes. Replacement heads too. So who the frick knows? You might want to dig into the V2 vs V2.5 version differences a little if you have any motivation left. Maybe ask around in the PV forum (put out a new thread) and see what kind of feedback you get. Mention where you got it.

How many regular VN's do you have and how many Mini VN's do you have? And do they all screw up the same way? Did you get them all from the same place?
 

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Please let me know because my local shop is now carrying the screwtank and I want to know before buying it

im sorry but im tabling my decision for the screw tank for the time being. but fwiw theres lots of dicussion on them in the gotvapes subforum for example.
 
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litecig is 100% legit. they sell genuine joye, genuine vision, etc. you can even check on vision's website under official US resellers. shawn over there is a great guy. the nova they have however is the version 2. its official as all hell, but its not the most recent revision. the 2.5 is the most recent. i got all of mine from gotvapes. out of the 5 i ordered, 3 worked great right out of the box. 1 leaked, and 1 was DOA. both problems had solutions (thanks gotvapes!). so i suggest to hang in there, if the smoktech screwtank/ titan is working better, personally id stick with that.

Yeah, I don't know. I know nothing about litecig. Went to their site and they look legit to me. I see they selll the V2 version. I think that just means they are short wicks. I have the V2.5 and I think that just means they are long wicks. I got one of my Mini Nova's from GotVapes and another one from Carolina Vapes. Replacement heads too. So who the frick knows? You might want to dig into the V2 vs V2.5 version differences a little if you have any motivation left. Maybe ask around in the PV forum (put out a new thread) and see what kind of feedback you get. Mention where you got it.

How many regular VN's do you have and how many Mini VN's do you have? And do they all screw up the same way? Did you get them all from the same place?
 
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