FDA "I think they're crazy..."

[Anjaffm]

Hey I am late to the party

Well, at 53 years old and having smoked for 35 years (until precisely 4 Nov 2011), I cannot run that fast And I spent some time at the hairdressers too, in order to .. hem hem.. "freshen up my natural blonde". Ahem... No grey hair here - but no spring chicken either

Great video, choochoogranny I love it!!!!

And yes, whatever has become of the Grey Panthers?
Our age group (over 50) is a big huge factor in the economy, at least in Europe. Everyone online is courting the '"silver surfers". The industry has been bringing out stylish shopping trolleys (I bought one and I see a lot of people using those, including middle-aged people from approx 35), comfortable + nice-looking shoes, comfortable+stylish clothing - cut for the lady and not for anorexic 13-year-olds, and a lot of very nice things. There are even several women's magazines coming out like "Brigitte Woman" - an edition of a women's magazine especially for the ladies over 40 who are not intested in seeing silly fashions modeled by anorexic teenagers and who could not care less about silly articles like "how to get a Latin lover into bed". The industry is courting us. We are the ones who have the money. And we will not be told what to buy.

.........
Little story about economic power:

I remember about 6 years ago:
The entire summer clothing collection in Germany - in any store - consisted of skin-tight hip-hugger pants (the low cut ones that give anybody a big huge beer belly), skin-tight stretch shirts made of 100% plastic , and gaudy colors. Ewwwww. As I had no intention of buying a carnival outfit, I did not buy one single piece all summer. Neither did my friends (except for one colleague who likes to go as "mutton dressed as lamb", as Charles Dickens so aptly put it. I will spare you the description.... ). Well, the stores discounted the summer collection in June already. To no avail. Most mature ladies disdain clown outfits, even if those were given away for free That stuff sat in the stores like lead.

The next summer, the stores were full of lovely clothing, cut for the lady, and in nice, decent colors. Needless to say: we went shopping
Ever since, the clothing stores have always sold nice things for the lady.

....

Yes, our generation has the economic power. The industry courts us. As we have the money. And our numbers are increasing steadily. Ever heard of the "aging population"? Hey, that is us! And the industry is courting us.

- - Now, how to turn this economic power into political power? To the industry, we are valued and courted customers. To the politicians, we are .... looking for printable word.... crap. How to change this? I would march. In addition to what I have been doing in Europe, in vaping advocacy.

Grey Panthers... hm...... I like the idea. I like it a lot.

 

[BuGlen]

<snip...>Grey Panthers... hm...... I like the idea. I like it a lot.

A.K.A. - Cougars!

Sorry, but someone had to do it!

 

[Anjaffm]

A.K.A. - Cougars!

Sorry, but someone had to do it!

Can you explain please? Sorry, I do not understand the reference.
(And I get the feeling that Google will not be helpful in this case... )
All I know is that cougars are animals (big cats) and, I think, some sports team.
<------ *points to place of residence*

 

[Jingles]

A "cougar" is an older lady that prefers or goes after younger men. Not me-I like my men older and distinguished-lol...

 

[Uma]

Whew, I almost missed the bus! Add another silver haired granny set for DC. .
I love the video, the DC tour, the Brigette Woman mag... is there an Engish equivalent?
Silver or grey Panthers, either one, works for me! Let's get this bus Rollin

 

[Anjaffm]

A "cougar" is an older lady that prefers or goes after younger men. Not me-I like my men older and distinguished-lol...

Thank you, dear.
Now, what on earth would I do with younger men? There is nothing like a nice gentleman in his best years
Unless, of course, the younger men run vape shops. Then I would go to see them - and satisfy my shiny acquisition syndrome. Now, I wonder if that is the kind of satisfaction that BuGlen had in mind

But I do need some vaping gear to take on our bus trip

 

[BuGlen]

A "cougar" is an older lady that prefers or goes after younger men. Not me-I like my men older and distinguished-lol...

Said in jest of course. It was the cat reference and it was just too easy.

 

[catilley1092]

Woah. Not THIS vaper! I'm trying to spend less than I did on smoking, not more! I really wish there was a "VapeMart" or some such. Oh wait, there is... too bad it's 5 wks shipping away from us...

Andria

There's plenty of "VapeMart's" right here, some with free shipping. Check out the Deals & Steals thread, plus the supplier's section of ECF. Many good deals to be found.

I have one favorite for accessories & they provide Fast, Free Shipping.

http://www.vaporbeast.com/

Have this item on the way. Have another, works good as long as I use 1.8ohm coils, normally I use 2.2-2.5ohms, those doesn't last long in this tank.

http://www.vaporbeast.com/kanger-ego-t3-bottom-coil-clearomizer-tank.html

Also, be on the lookout for any Going out of Business sales.

Cat

 

[aikanae1]

You know the bus could be routed to hit all the regional vape bashes on it's way ...
The truth is that anything smokers "have fun" with is going to make them mad.
Quitting is supposed to be serious and dreadful.

 

[RosaJ]

You know the bus could be routed to hit all the regional vape bashes on it's way ...
The truth is that anything smokers "have fun" with is going to make them mad.
Quitting is supposed to be serious and dreadful.

....and, you must suffer mental and physical pain in the process. If you don't, it doesn't count, you're still a "smoker." Oh, and it bugs them to no end that they can't use us as their punching bag whenever they have the need to feel superior.

 

[Anjaffm]

....Oh, and it bugs them to no end that they can't use us as their punching bag whenever they have the need to feel superior.

Well, isn't that just too bad?

 

[choochoogranny]

Sorry, Anjaffm, haven't kept up......Talking about slow running any more! Been getting ready for a soon to be trip into the "wilds of Alaska" where dau. and family live; and need to be absolutely sure I'm bringing enough vaping supplies for the duration 'cause they don't have a whole lot where I'm going. Clothes I can get easily. Juice not so much.

 

[Anjaffm]

@choochoo:

oh how lovely! I hope you have a ball!

 

[VENAXIS]

Such a lovely lady

When I started vaping I thought of it as a new fun hobby, specially since it emulates flavor and smoke. Now and unintentionally I'm an ex-hookah smoker. I mean how did that happen?

LOL all the better!

 

[choochoogranny]

Thank you, VENAIS. When I started vaping which I didn't know anything about a month before I started, I didn't know that I was going to learn so much more. Using a hookah for instance I'd only seen in movies of the mid-east and thought it very exotic. What do you know by golly! People use it here in the U.S. as well! Now I'm learning that some hookah users are also switching over to vaping too. Such a learning curve I'm going through!

 

[VENAXIS]

Thank you, VENAIS. When I started vaping which I didn't know anything about a month before I started, I didn't know that I was going to learn so much more. Using a hookah for instance I'd only seen in movies of the mid-east and thought it very exotic. What do you know by golly! People use it here in the U.S. as well! Now I'm learning that some hookah users are also switching over to vaping too. Such a learning curve I'm going through!

To be honest at first I had no idea that other people also switched from smoking hookah to vaping, until recently in my previous posts I saw others who also converted, which really made me happy After all, the closest thing to vaping in my opinion is smoking hookah, which is probably what made it so easy for me to convert from the first puff

 

[Anjaffm]

Hm... yeah.. there seem to be different kinds of hookah. (?)

I used to smoke one with some friends. Boy, that one took my socks off, even as a smoker You had to inhale veeery carefully or get a big huge coughing fit. - Now, a few weeks ago, I visited a young colleague for a party. They fixed a hookah with hot stones (?) and it was completely like vaping - cool and mild and very lovely.

I think vaping is a lot like enjoying a nice hookah. Or a nice small cigar, minus the smoke as such. Very nice and easygoing and enjoyable
Welcome to ECF, VENAXIS!

 

[VENAXIS]

Hm... yeah.. there seem to be different kinds of hookah. (?)

I used to smoke one with some friends. Boy, that one took my socks off, even as a smoker You had to inhale veeery carefully or get a big huge coughing fit. - Now, a few weeks ago, I visited a young colleague for a party. They fixed a hookah with hot stones (?) and it was completely like vaping - cool and mild and very lovely.

I think vaping is a lot like enjoying a nice hookah. Or a nice small cigar, minus the smoke as such. Very nice and easygoing and enjoyable
Welcome to ECF, VENAXIS!

Yes! I only know of two types, the regular hookah/shisha everybody smokes (including me), and another type called jurak that can be too strong even for a lifetime cigarette/hookah smoker (however some types can be mild. It's also taller in size - maybe 1.5-2 meters). The difference is mainly the moassel which is why I don't understand why jurak is bigger in size (there's probably a reason). Also, jurak has a richer and more complex taste according to its smokers, since it uses a better high quality tobacco and better high quality natural flavors (does not contain the weird chemicals available in normal shisha moassel > more natural).

The regular one has many names, including: Hookah/Shisha/Argeela/Arkeela (Usually uses fruit flavored tobacco)
The strong one: Jurak/Jarak (Usually uses high quality natural flavors/herbs and tobacco)
Moassel = Basically what you smoke (the flavoreed tobacco on the shisha, for example..)

The one that needs careful inhaling is probably jurak

I've tried the stone charcoals and it was the best shisha I've ever had (from what I know, it is considered the highest quality charcoal out there - also expensive). Very smooth and cool inhaling. It also produces lots and lots of smoke

I completely agree! Thank you, Anjaffm!

*Sorry for the long unrelated comment. I just wanted to share what I know about these things since I saw question marks

 

[Anjaffm]

thank you for the explanation, dear!

 

[choochoogranny]

Whew! Learning more stuff! Okay, would the hookah users be zapped by the new FDA regs too?