Meeting their specifications means that it is not likely to catch fire can handle drops temperature has overcurrent protection, etc. I have been involved with a UL lab certifying and electronic product.
I think we need to STOP recommending a Istick 50
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Meeting their specifications means that it is not likely to catch fire can handle drops temperature has overcurrent protection, etc. I have been involved with a UL lab certifying and electronic product.
This is the reason I quite often recommend an AltSmoke Silver Bullet (mechanical), a Provari from Provape, or a Reo from Reo Mods. They are very reliable/safe mods manufactured by American companies which offer real warranties, and will service their products for life.
I often dismiss Chinese companies based on what Rocketpunk just said:
"We make cheap. You buy cheap. It break? You buy another."
I guess I'm just old school. I grew up in a day and age when manufacturers took pride in their products and always backed those products with great customer support. Anyone remember Maytag washers and driers? The world economy and Chinese business practices has changed our world into a disposable society, and I long for the old days.
Well shop I bought mine from just called and said because I had it 36 days they won't replace it and have to try ISmoka again. They also told me they tried using it and they couldn't get it to stop firing anytime they put a atty on it so I shouldn't use it. I felt like saying well duh lol that's why I want to return it. Anyway I'm about to email ISmoka again. Probably not going to do any good but I'm not going down without swinging
I'm not entirely sure you're being sincere. it's hard to tell over text. If you are being sincere, I disagree with your opinion and will not recommend them. Just because you happened to get a good device does not mean all of them are good. High failure rates with auto firing and several fires, coupled with no recall after the manufacturer made a statement admitting it was a design problem, really do no make me want to recommend a mod.
Oh the irony of it .......
We're from the government and were here to help but I don't think the Chinese care much what that commission has to say about anything so this suggestion would accomplish nothing more than give them more ammo. JMHO
I considered getting the istick50 for my hubby. fortunately I read the original thread about the one that fried. I went with another MVP for him. It is a tried and true, solid device in my opinion.
Oh I completely agree; reasonable regs like UL would be a wonderful idea -- but those washington clowns have this idea that just because they dispense nicotine, e-cigs are somehow "different" or "special" and therefore need 1,000,000 more regs than any other electronic device -- THAT is what the anti-regulationists are trying to avoid.
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Yep we are governed by idiots. But what does it say about us that we keep electing the idiots? I use the term "we" to indicate the general population.
Jason if my vape shop treated a problem that way, I'd find another shop, and let them know, in no uncertain terms. They are the the ones that took your money. They're also much more likely to get refunded on returns.
Yeah I haven't shopped with them since buying that Istick. It was the first shop I'd seen at the time. Also it was before I'd joined any online vaping forums or groups. At the time I played 74$ bucks for my Istick. I ain't even mad at all about that price. Quitting cigarettes is priceless. I do feel I should have gotten more than 36 days use out of it though. My biggest beef is that they know about the problems and admit it but won't issue a recall. The money I lose I chalk up to being inexperienced but it bothers me that the old stock is still being sold. Yes a new vaper could possibly buy a good one but there's a good chance they'll wind up like me. And shops know when a customer is a newbie. Do you think they will try unloading the old stock to experienced vapers who ask the !questions or the unsuspecting newbie? That's the reason I say we shouldn't advise the newbies to buy these. You can doubt and question my intentions all you want but I'm trying to help the newbies. I'm not hating. Which I hate that term" hater " or "hating"
This is the reason I quite often recommend an AltSmoke Silver Bullet (mechanical), a Provari from Provape, or a Reo from Reo Mods. They are very reliable/safe mods manufactured by American companies which offer real warranties, and will service their products for life.
I often dismiss Chinese companies based on what Rocketpunk just said:
"We make cheap. You buy cheap. It break? You buy another."
I guess I'm just old school. I grew up in a day and age when manufacturers took pride in their products and always backed those products with great customer support. Anyone remember Maytag washers and driers? The world economy and Chinese business practices has changed our world into a disposable society, and I long for the old days.
It's because the entire world has become a consumer society -- people who don't "use up" whatever it is, don't buy -- consume -- *new* whatever it is. It's built right in to every American car that rolled off an assembly-line -- to keep that line running, people have to buy new ones on a regular basis, so the new ones need to "wear out." This is probably the very worst idea/philosophy/economy to have come from America, and now it has infected the whole world. We are in the process of burying ourselves in all the "disposable" stuff we have "disposed" of.
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I don't plan on buying any tanks that I can't easily rebuild the coils for. The money spent on coils for me is in the pennies per coil
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That's fine.
However, some of their requisites would disqualify a bunch of good products as well.
I like that they're there for consumer safety. Though I prefer having the choice.
I have a hand full of electronics that aren't certified and are somewhat costly. They work just as well as their certified counterparts (some much better) at 1/5 to 1/2 the price or better.
But i also keep a keen eye out for quality products instead of just buying the cheapest garbage China can mass produce.
I own my fair share of fine China.
ETA; Q: what would happen with mech mods if UL listing were mandatory on everything?
Cause I'm not giving them up, either.
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