I Want to Vape Beer

[scurry64]

I want to attempt to make a malt extract in order to create a DIY beer flavored e-liquid. But, I'm not sure how to go about making an extract. I have a few ideas that I would like some input and constructive criticism on.

Option 1: liquid malt extract is easily attainable at any brick and mortar brew store and I could pick it up this afternoon. Follow this link for a common example: http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/brewing/brewing-ingredients/malt-extract/maillard-malts-maris-otter-malt-extract-syrup.html
The problem with liquid malt extract is that the size of the container is rather large and I don't plan on doing any brewing in the near future, so it will spoil and I will waste the better part of $12.

Option 2: Dry malt extract is also available. Follow this link for a common example: Muntons DME Extra Dark - Dry Malt Extract - Malt Extract - Beer Ingredients - Beer Brewing : Northern Brewer
This option would be much more economical because I already have a similar product on hand and I can vacuum seal the unused portion. What should I mix with the dry malt extract? Water? VG? PG? VG/PG mix? I have a stir plate, so I can ensure a good mixture/suspension.

Option 3: I also have whole grains like this: Simpsons Chocolate Malt : Northern Brewer
and a grain mill. I could mill and boil the grains to create my own extract. It's a simple process, but obviously more time consuming.

My questions are: 1) Has anyone already tried this? 2) Is this likely to clogged my atty? 3) Do you have any alternatives to using/making a malt extract?

I know that TPA has a malted milk concentrate, but that's not really what I'm after. I want a beer flavor and my plan is to mix the malt extract with a hop extract like this (Hop Harvest April 2014 - Limited Edition e-Liquid - FrontierVapor.com) and vape beer when I don't want to, or can't, drink beer.

Thanks in advance for your input.

 

[RonJS]

I could mill and boil the grains to create my own extract.

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I want a beer flavor and my plan is to mix the malt extract with a hop extract

Boil the grains? As in a decoction mash?

I'm thinking if you want a beer flavor, malt extract with hop extract won't give you that. Malt extract, does not taste like beer to me until it's fermented.

Last weekend I asked a buddy (an instructor at Siebel) about the possibility of making flavorings for vapeing in different various beer styles. He had no quick suggestions or ideas.

While I have not tried it, if I were to, I would look more to utilizing a beer concentrate. Maybe something similar to what i was reading about a while back...

Brewery to release new beer from concentrate | Fox News


Just my

Ron

 

[scurry64]

Boil the grains? As in a decoction mash?

Not really. I'm sure a decoction mash would work, but it is time consuming and labor intensive (not to mention I no longer have a mash tun). Without getting too technical in this forum, I was thinking more along the lines of a BIAB - stove top process. I considered steeping the grains and boiling the wort until it reduced (considerably) and the malt flavor is concentrated.

Malt extract, does not taste like beer to me until it's fermented.

I disagree. Fermentation is more about the process of allowing yeast to create alcohol than it is about altering the flavor of the malt.

It may not work, but I think I'll give it try. It wouldn't be the first mistake I've made.

 

[AmandaD]

You reminded me of something I read a while ago - diacetyl is produced during beer making, and (if I remember correctly) it's one of the things that is tested for to see when beer is ready. Presence of diacetyl meant it wasn't ready. Don't know if that's helpful or not, but probably good to know!

 

[Dayglow]

Diacetyl is an often unintended consequence of certain brewing styles and techniques. It can usually be prevented and removed. My concern with this idea of beer flavored liquids would be if you want to extract grain sugars and hop oils you end up with just that. Sugars and oil/resin neither of which make for a long lived coil and the sugar would most likely flash caramelize and burn before being particularly flavorful. The ideal would be to use flavorings that mimic graininess and chemicals that mimic hop oils. In short I don't think it would make for a healthy combination of things to inhale. Let us not forget that alcohol production through fermentation creates a lot of the desirable flavors we like. Yes fermentation changes the malt profile as yeast are more able to break down certain sugars and not others so they change the sugar type distribution through their action. Making a beer flavored vape might be akin to drinking a no-alcohol beer, it just isn't the same by a long way. I would love to be proven wrong and be able to try this out though.

 

[Burnie]

IPA is more about the Hops, why not soak some grain and hops in PG for a month or so? I think I have some in the freezer, might be worth a try. I have some dry malt also, but I think the sugars would clog up the coil fast. Just a thought.

Vape On
Burnie

 

[we2rcool]

Beer by Flavors Express 10ml - ecigExpress

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(Edit: iif you're interested in trying a flavoring, of course)

 

[epicdoom]

could these extracts be put together as you would for brewing let them do what they need to to meld the flavors and then use that or even distill the mixture ??

 

[scurry64]

Beer by Flavors Express 10ml - ecigExpress

Beer Super Concentrated Flavor | Alcohol Based Flavoring - E Cig eGo, E juice, Mods, Cartomizers, Liquid Nicotine, DIY Flavorings


(Edit: iif you're interested in trying a flavoring, of course)

Thank you. This will save me a lot of time. I placed an order at Vaping Zone this morning.

 

[Racer Rex]

Though I've not considered vaping a beer flavor, I am currently extracting flavors from some cascade hops.


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[twgbonehead]

AFAIK, malt is not really a major contributor to the taste of beer. It is used primarily to turn the starches in grains into fermentable sugars.

Hops play a much larger role in the flavor, and the grain itself does as well.

I wonder what would happen if you tried to boil down a beer? Would you get anything worthwhile? Would you get anything at all? (Freeze-drying might be a better approach!)

 

[Burnie]

Here you Go
Beer Extract Powder at Spice Barn

Vape On
Burnie

 

[wllmc]

I thought the title said I want to vape a bear . lol